Floppy drive sound - Page 5

Antiriad · 11 January 2004, 13:13

Just tried this out myself - wonderful!

Now that we have some real Amiga samples (i always thought ST drives sounded different to Amiga ones) I cannot see why Toni cannot incorporate Hal and Chipmunks wonderful work in to version 0.8.24

andreas · 11 January 2004, 15:21

I agree with some previous poster that it's a bit too loud now.

The stepping noise [tac - tac - tac...] is very accurate now - very good work!

The motor sounds better, however now it sounds as if the disk is already very "used".
I mean, if the drive does these "pulses", it's a clear indication of an aged disk that is almost about to "die".
Sound goes "trr(.)rrr(.)rrr(.)rrr(.)rrr..." The silence (about 50 ms) is because while spinning, it always has to get past a tiny error (.) on the magnetic surface.
I hope my stupid explanations did explain the matter clearly enough.

hal · 11 January 2004, 15:25

get the point
that'll be my fault
i used an aged disk
(most of em i have are)
the loudness is however very true to my a500 drive
guess i have to find a better disk now and start over again

hamster · 11 January 2004, 16:25

Agreed! This is definitely growing on me!

fisken uno · 11 January 2004, 16:26

Quote:

Originally posted by andreas
I agree with some previous poster that it's a bit too loud now.

Too loud!?

I think it's too quiet, or soft... Perhaps I'm wrong because I'm only referring to how I remember it to sound (and I haven't heard a real Amiga floppydrive in 10 years!!!

) but I want it to be really noisy - it's music to my ears

. I felt the music of the games drowned the sound of the virtual drive... Would be cool to be able to adjust the volume of the drive vs the music in some way. Oh well I know I'm asking too much...

BTW isn't it kinda cool that it sounds like a really old and used disk? Doesn't it add some to the "retro" feel?

In any case, I LOOOVE this feature! Good work, hal & chipmunk

Konrad · 11 January 2004, 17:50

It's difficult to tell If the sounds are too loud of too quiet. I owned three Amiga 500 and each had another loudness.

EDIT: Just checked the new version. The sound is wonderful now. But it's difficult for me to tell wether it's too loud or too quiet so I think it's better to leave it as it is now

.

For outrun the floppy seems to quiet. But in Honda RVF it seems to loud. Can't you also insert volume control for the floppy sound ?

Konrad · 11 January 2004, 18:04

A BUG, A BUG !!!!!
No really, there's something that annoyes me and I don't know if it's already mentioned somewhere.

Some games turn the Audio filter of the Amiga on or off. But that also influences the floppy drive sound. Try it with Zeewolf. The sound is first normal (damped) but when you see the logo and the music starts it's crystal clear. You can also check this in WinUAE by enabling and disabling the filter emulation.

hamster · 11 January 2004, 18:20

Hi Konrad,

Could you try this with "Cruise for a corpse"? I think I came across it intermittedly but it could be my copy or settings. I had my filter off at the time.

Konrad · 11 January 2004, 20:46

Quote:

Originally posted by hamster
In this I noticed that when the game finally loaded (floppy based rather than HD install ..which I should do) I notice a bit of a hiss generated from the last "click" when the game loaded and it stays in the background.

Everything works fine, theres no hiss staying in the background. But please, don't tell me you mean the crunching of the planks of the ship

.

BippyM · 11 January 2004, 21:29

Excellent work.. sounds really good.. but as others have said, it seems a bit too limp!!

Needs more beef!!

P-J · 11 January 2004, 21:50

Half the 'beef' was probably caused by the resonance of the floppy drive case, and more so, the A500 case.

I don't think you'll be able to get it much better than this, except for possibly a bit of EQ tweaking.

fisken uno · 11 January 2004, 22:01

Quote:

Originally posted by P-J
I don't think you'll be able to get it much better than this

hardmoon · 11 January 2004, 22:25

If this feature will be added with a tickbox in the 'official' winUAE distri, it might be an idea to have some control over the volume, so you can adjust it as one sees fit. I'd like this feature, but just at a low volume so you know there's still some drive activity in full screen mode with the leds turned off....

Chipmunk, kewl version you built there...!

P-J · 11 January 2004, 22:26

Quote:

Originally posted by fisken uno

That said, I'm not the techie guy here, and I could quite easily be wrong. So cheer up

fisken uno · 11 January 2004, 22:52

Quote:

Originally posted by P-J
That said, I'm not the techie guy here, and I could quite easily be wrong. So cheer up

hardmoon · 12 January 2004, 10:32

Wow chipmunk, I have used your version a few hours now and I don't want to go back to the version without the disksound!! I just wanted to say once again, good work! It really brings back that vintage feel and it's as if my good ol' amiga is grinding here

Amiga1992 · 12 January 2004, 19:41

I'll have a pop at trying to record thesounds from my A1200.

Chipmunk_UK_1 · 12 January 2004, 21:52

Hey all, here's tonights build, sounds alot better, but a little quieter, but the sound is no longer filtered when it shouldnt be, and the clipping no longer occurs either.

As always, let me know

You can grab it here .

Konrad · 12 January 2004, 22:13

Excellent work Chippy

.

Amiga1992 · 12 January 2004, 23:02

Chipmunk, word of advise: rename the new builds with some numbers or something, because I always think I'm downloading the same old binary.

winuae0.8.23.driveclick-030112.zip or something like that (03 01 12 being the date, for example)

11 January 2004, 15:21	#82
andreas Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Germany Age: 50 Posts: 5,857	I agree with some previous poster that it's a bit too loud now. The stepping noise [tac - tac - tac...] is very accurate now - very good work! The motor sounds better, however now it sounds as if the disk is already very "used". I mean, if the drive does these "pulses", it's a clear indication of an aged disk that is almost about to "die". Sound goes "trr(.)rrr(.)rrr(.)rrr(.)rrr..." The silence (about 50 ms) is because while spinning, it always has to get past a tiny error (.) on the magnetic surface. I hope my stupid explanations did explain the matter clearly enough. Last edited by andreas; 11 January 2004 at 15:27.

11 January 2004, 17:50	#86
Konrad Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Germany Age: 43 Posts: 742	It's difficult to tell If the sounds are too loud of too quiet. I owned three Amiga 500 and each had another loudness. EDIT: Just checked the new version. The sound is wonderful now. But it's difficult for me to tell wether it's too loud or too quiet so I think it's better to leave it as it is now . For outrun the floppy seems to quiet. But in Honda RVF it seems to loud. Can't you also insert volume control for the floppy sound ? Last edited by Konrad; 11 January 2004 at 17:59.

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11 January 2004, 13:13	#81
Antiriad The Sacred Armour Of Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Sussex, UK Age: 44 Posts: 1,141	Just tried this out myself - wonderful! Now that we have some real Amiga samples (i always thought ST drives sounded different to Amiga ones) I cannot see why Toni cannot incorporate Hal and Chipmunks wonderful work in to version 0.8.24

11 January 2004, 15:25	#83
hal where am i ? Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: akureyri iceland Age: 41 Posts: 187	get the point that'll be my fault i used an aged disk (most of em i have are) the loudness is however very true to my a500 drive guess i have to find a better disk now and start over again

11 January 2004, 16:25	#84
hamster Zone Friend Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Waterford / Ireland Age: 49 Posts: 88	Agreed! This is definitely growing on me!

11 January 2004, 18:04	#87
Konrad Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Germany Age: 43 Posts: 742	A BUG, A BUG !!!!! No really, there's something that annoyes me and I don't know if it's already mentioned somewhere. Some games turn the Audio filter of the Amiga on or off. But that also influences the floppy drive sound. Try it with Zeewolf. The sound is first normal (damped) but when you see the logo and the music starts it's crystal clear. You can also check this in WinUAE by enabling and disabling the filter emulation.

11 January 2004, 18:20	#88
hamster Zone Friend Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Waterford / Ireland Age: 49 Posts: 88	Hi Konrad, Could you try this with "Cruise for a corpse"? I think I came across it intermittedly but it could be my copy or settings. I had my filter off at the time.

11 January 2004, 21:29	#90
BippyM Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 48 Posts: 9,355	Excellent work.. sounds really good.. but as others have said, it seems a bit too limp!! Needs more beef!!

11 January 2004, 21:50	#91
P-J Registered User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Moorpark, California Age: 44 Posts: 1,153	Half the 'beef' was probably caused by the resonance of the floppy drive case, and more so, the A500 case. I don't think you'll be able to get it much better than this, except for possibly a bit of EQ tweaking.

11 January 2004, 22:25	#93
hardmoon Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Holland Age: 54 Posts: 36	If this feature will be added with a tickbox in the 'official' winUAE distri, it might be an idea to have some control over the volume, so you can adjust it as one sees fit. I'd like this feature, but just at a low volume so you know there's still some drive activity in full screen mode with the leds turned off.... Chipmunk, kewl version you built there...!

12 January 2004, 10:32	#96
hardmoon Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Holland Age: 54 Posts: 36	Wow chipmunk, I have used your version a few hours now and I don't want to go back to the version without the disksound!! I just wanted to say once again, good work! It really brings back that vintage feel and it's as if my good ol' amiga is grinding here

12 January 2004, 19:41	#97
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	I'll have a pop at trying to record thesounds from my A1200.

12 January 2004, 21:52	#98
Chipmunk_UK_1 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Royston / UK Age: 48 Posts: 61	Hey all, here's tonights build, sounds alot better, but a little quieter, but the sound is no longer filtered when it shouldnt be, and the clipping no longer occurs either. As always, let me know You can grab it here .

12 January 2004, 22:13	#99
Konrad Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Germany Age: 43 Posts: 742	Excellent work Chippy .

12 January 2004, 23:02	#100
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	Chipmunk, word of advise: rename the new builds with some numbers or something, because I always think I'm downloading the same old binary. winuae0.8.23.driveclick-030112.zip or something like that (03 01 12 being the date, for example)

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