OS 4.1 FE Update 1: Expand RAM On WinUAE? - Page 4

elowan · 07 January 2017, 00:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by AMIGASYSTEM

Yes, the old folder to rename

ooops - I deleted the old one

AMIGASYSTEM · 07 January 2017, 00:08

He does nothing much was not working

Toni Wilen · 07 January 2017, 08:27

Your original attached config has 8M chip ram. Don't even attempt to use anything that is not possible with real hardware. (Also enabling all floppy drives is quite useless)

elowan · 07 January 2017, 18:28

ok - I got 2MB Chip Ram now and just 2 floppy drives active - but OS4.1 does still not use the additional Z3 Ram (1GB)

maybe it´s because I assigned some Swap drive for RAM: a while ago?

other thing is, AmiUpdater showing a few updates - but the button, that would actually start updating is greyed out ?!

oh dear

Snake79 · 07 January 2017, 19:21

Maybe try creating new OS41 BASIC config first (upgrade it later) or try one of attached by users OS41 working configs (removing unnecessary cards)?..
PS. I was using Z3 Fast Ram for swap too (256MB) and updated to U1 without problems (having ~1GB Fast Ram with uaegfx, sound card and network adapter now)..

amigafreak68k · 08 January 2017, 01:26

Update AmiUpdate locale first. Than restart.

elowan · 09 January 2017, 08:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by amigafreak68k

Update AmiUpdate locale first. Than restart.

Ah yes - from what I see, the titles on the buttons are rubbish / their meanings are messed up!

I´ve found the right button now, but updates are crashing towards the end - because of sucky 45MB RAM I got in 4.1

Got no time and desire to install everything new from scratch, it was a pain in the a$$, AFAIR...

So I stay away from developing and porting some software to OS 4.1 system

for now

best regards

DarrenHD · 09 January 2017, 22:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by elowan

Ah yes - from what I see, the titles on the buttons are rubbish / their meanings are messed up!

I´ve found the right button now, but updates are crashing towards the end - because of sucky 45MB RAM I got in 4.1

Got no time and desire to install everything new from scratch, it was a pain in the a$$, AFAIR...

So I stay away from developing and porting some software to OS 4.1 system

for now

best regards

Well you did modify your OS4.1 startup-sequence to change the bootloader line to say this?:

c:Bootloader COMMANDLINE="NORAMPAGER"

That will tell the OS4 kernel to search for Z3 memory and add it.

You of course have to tell WinUAE to use Z3 memory. Start with a small amount and move up from there.

It does work, both on real hardware and on WinUAE.

AMIGASYSTEM · 09 January 2017, 22:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by elowan

Got no time and desire to install everything new from scratch, it was a pain in the a$$, AFAIR...
best regards

Update the folder you copied earlier on HD OS4.1 or you run directly from windows folder?

Seiya · 10 January 2017, 03:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by SnkBitten

I just have

C: BootLoader COMMANDLINE "NORAMPAGER"

and it works just fine.

and after that i have pink screen forever. So WinUAE as soon as switch to PPC stop to load AmigaOS 4.1 FE u1

SnkBitten · 10 January 2017, 04:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seiya

and after that i have pink screen forever. So WinUAE as soon as switch to PPC stop to load AmigaOS 4.1 FE u1

What's your configuration?

I have CyberSCSI.device running the System HDF, Work HDF, Swap HDF and CDRom.
I have UAEGfx with 64 MB
A2065 Nic
Z3 Fastram 1 @ 512 MB
Z3 Fastram 2 @ 512 MB
Chip Ram @ 2 MB
Accelerator RAM @ 128 MB

Installed the patch by downloading it from Hyperion's site, using a windows shared folder mounted in WinUAE and extracted it to my "Work" partition and ran the installer.

After reboot I made the change to S:startup-sequence and rebooted. Ram was there. Started with (1) Z3 512 MB and it was there, next added a second Z3 256 MB and it was there. Just now changed the second Z3 to 512 MB and it was all there.

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WinUAE 3.4.0 (2016.12.21) 32bit on 64bit Windows 10.

Amiga OS 4.1 had been fully updated via AmiUpdate prior to the latest Update 1 which allowed for Zorro ram as fastram.

elowan · 10 January 2017, 08:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seiya

and after that i have pink screen forever. So WinUAE as soon as switch to PPC stop to load AmigaOS 4.1 FE u1

yes, just like on my system (see configs some posts above)

seems, it does not work for everybody

elowan · 10 January 2017, 08:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarrenHD

Well you did modify your OS4.1 startup-sequence to change the bootloader line to say this?:

c:Bootloader COMMANDLINE="NORAMPAGER"

That will tell the OS4 kernel to search for Z3 memory and add it.

You of course have to tell WinUAE to use Z3 memory. Start with a small amount and move up from there.

It does work, both on real hardware and on WinUAE.

thanks for the hint, but I did have the startup-sequence altered this way (see screenshots a few posts above)

I am out of ideas right now... kind of giving up on this

SnkBitten · 10 January 2017, 13:40

Most likely there is an issue with your 4.1 install. As suggested earlier, start a new 4.1 setup and fresh install. You could have had a few new 4.1 installs completed with the amount of time you've spent trying to correct the one you have.

sigma63 · 10 January 2017, 14:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by elowan

thanks for the hint, but I did have the startup-sequence altered this way (see screenshots a few posts above)

I am out of ideas right now... kind of giving up on this

Hello Elowan,

If i get your third Screenshot in Post #60 right, you have "allocated" your Z3-RAM by means of the Z3-Fast-Slider in the upper window.
Maybe you should instead "allocate" it by means of the lower window, adding in two separate Portions (1*512MB + 1*256MG).

Toni Wilen · 10 January 2017, 15:38

I think I already suggested it but didn't see any replies: start with "clean" CSPPC flash image and make sure CSPPC boot menu maprom is off.

AMIGASYSTEM · 10 January 2017, 17:16

Ciao Toni, after Upgrade1 OS4.1 I found a little problem. In practice on my PC a Dual Core 32Bit, i configured 512MB of RAM on OS4.1 and the system starts peacefully. It happens however that if on Windows I open big application (Browser + Video etc..) Os4.1 does not start, resolve reducing memory 256. From what I understood, Windows sucks memory WinUAE, the possibility exists that this does not happen, thank you.

Toni Wilen · 10 January 2017, 18:32

Windows XP? It has very limited process address space, at least Windows 7+ needed.

AMIGASYSTEM · 10 January 2017, 18:55

No i have Windows 7 Professional !

Toni Wilen · 10 January 2017, 18:58

Other programs shouldn't affect, unless you have too little physical RAM. Anyway, I don't really support "lots of ram"-config without 64-bit Windows.

Available process address space size can be very variable and depends on drivers, random 3rd party libraries etc..

07 January 2017, 19:21	#65
Snake79 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Poland Posts: 190	Maybe try creating new OS41 BASIC config first (upgrade it later) or try one of attached by users OS41 working configs (removing unnecessary cards)?.. PS. I was using Z3 Fast Ram for swap too (256MB) and updated to U1 without problems (having ~1GB Fast Ram with uaegfx, sound card and network adapter now).. Last edited by Snake79; 07 January 2017 at 22:42.

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07 January 2017, 00:08	#62
AMIGASYSTEM Registered User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Brindisi (Italy) Age: 70 Posts: 8,248	He does nothing much was not working

07 January 2017, 08:27	#63
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,506	Your original attached config has 8M chip ram. Don't even attempt to use anything that is not possible with real hardware. (Also enabling all floppy drives is quite useless)

07 January 2017, 18:28	#64
elowan Registered User Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: germany Age: 49 Posts: 374	ok - I got 2MB Chip Ram now and just 2 floppy drives active - but OS4.1 does still not use the additional Z3 Ram (1GB) maybe it´s because I assigned some Swap drive for RAM: a while ago? other thing is, AmiUpdater showing a few updates - but the button, that would actually start updating is greyed out ?! oh dear

08 January 2017, 01:26	#66
amigafreak68k Registered User Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Engelsdorf / Germany Posts: 468	Update AmiUpdate locale first. Than restart.

10 January 2017, 13:40	#74
SnkBitten Amithlon Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Lexington, SC / US Posts: 781	Most likely there is an issue with your 4.1 install. As suggested earlier, start a new 4.1 setup and fresh install. You could have had a few new 4.1 installs completed with the amount of time you've spent trying to correct the one you have.

10 January 2017, 15:38	#76
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,506	I think I already suggested it but didn't see any replies: start with "clean" CSPPC flash image and make sure CSPPC boot menu maprom is off.

10 January 2017, 17:16	#77
AMIGASYSTEM Registered User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Brindisi (Italy) Age: 70 Posts: 8,248	Ciao Toni, after Upgrade1 OS4.1 I found a little problem. In practice on my PC a Dual Core 32Bit, i configured 512MB of RAM on OS4.1 and the system starts peacefully. It happens however that if on Windows I open big application (Browser + Video etc..) Os4.1 does not start, resolve reducing memory 256. From what I understood, Windows sucks memory WinUAE, the possibility exists that this does not happen, thank you.

10 January 2017, 18:32	#78
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,506	Windows XP? It has very limited process address space, at least Windows 7+ needed.

10 January 2017, 18:55	#79
AMIGASYSTEM Registered User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Brindisi (Italy) Age: 70 Posts: 8,248	No i have Windows 7 Professional !

10 January 2017, 18:58	#80
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,506	Other programs shouldn't affect, unless you have too little physical RAM. Anyway, I don't really support "lots of ram"-config without 64-bit Windows. Available process address space size can be very variable and depends on drivers, random 3rd party libraries etc..

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