Probably unreleased CDTV games

Galaxy · 16 January 2008, 10:42

Anyone know the status of any of these - they were all listed in the Amiga Buyers Guide magazine, Summer 1992. None are listed in HOL.

Bureau of Astral Troubleshooters / Ubi Soft
The Cardinal of the Kremlin / Capstone
Fascination / Coktel Vision
Future Wars / Interplay
Horse Racing / Context Systems
Indoor Sports / Context Systems
Many Roads to Murder / CDTV Publishing
Murder Anyone? / CDTV Publishing
Mad TV / Commodore
Pro Tennis Tour 2 / Ubi Soft
Shadow of the Beast / Psygnosis
The Terminator / Tiger Media
TV Sports Football / Commodore
Unreal / Ubi Soft

Daff · 17 January 2008, 07:52

Lots of CDTV titles were annonced but then cancelled. Seems all your games were cancelled and/or not released.

As the CDTV were not a commercially succesfull machine, lots of publishers cancelled their titles or released them on a double CDTV/CD32 format later (Ik+, James Pond 2,...).

Do not believe in the CDTV Commodore's catalog, it's a marketing product with no real confirmation from developers/publishers.

Retro-Nerd · 17 January 2008, 07:57

Quote:

Future Wars / Interplay

I read somewhere (ages ago) that is was finished, but not released. Like the CDTV versions of Monkey Island and Loom.

mk1 · 22 January 2008, 21:19

As far as I know they're all unreleased.

andreas · 15 April 2008, 08:55

But Loom CDTV WAS released!
Otherwise it would neither show up on Ebay currently nor would there be a box scan in HOL.

Can't wait to see the final price ...

(no I won't bid ... I do need to pay my rent this month

)

Josh · 15 April 2008, 09:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by andreas

But Loom CDTV WAS released!
Otherwise it would neither show up on Ebay currently nor would there be a box scan in HOL.

Can't wait to see the final price ...

Hmm. TheBoss bought an original CD of Loom. As far as I remember he paid 250 Euro for Loom on eBay.

Cheers Josh

killergorilla · 15 April 2008, 10:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Josh

Hmm. TheBoss bought an original CD of Loom. As far as I remember he paid 250 Euro for Loom on eBay.

spajdr · 15 April 2008, 12:09

250 euro, thats some amiga loving

Thalion · 15 April 2008, 16:38

250€

Thats really a bit much.
I think i got a copy of loom for about 30€ but unfortunately missing the front cover but at least i got it.

andreas · 15 April 2008, 18:59

Well, it looks my sarcastic remark regarding the paying of my rent was not THAT unrealistic, was it?

Retro-Nerd · 16 April 2008, 04:18

I don't think they officially released Loom on CDTV. The game was ready for sale, but canceled. Maybe some ex Commodore/Softgold employees made something public, who knows. There were some press CD's too, iirc.

Thalion · 16 April 2008, 21:54

Hm then they must have made quite a lot of cds. The one i have looks like a normal CDTV release.

TheBoss · 16 April 2008, 22:37

As fare as I have heard the game got canceled by Lucasfilm (1992) because of the CDTV market went downhill fast so no official store release was out but not before the game was done and I'm guessing only 1 batch of cd's was made before Lucasfilm made their decision. Cost me 250 euros as mentioned but I am a collector so...but it is the most costly game I have bought and I prefer not pay this much for any game although I have seen it go for more before about 3 years ago, it is an expensive game to get usually.

The CDTV version itself is a disappointment, only german text and no ingame CD Audio or Speech that we did see in other CD editions like on PC and FM Towns.

Talkie · 17 April 2008, 23:03

I have heard that Future Wars went pretty far to get released. It would be great to find a prototype.

A big clue to the CDTV version is that Future Wars was later released on cd-rom with a new full audio soundtrack, albeit not incorporated in the game. Just the standard game, and bonus audio tracks of the new music for your listening pleasure. Or then it was that a cd audio came as a bonus, something like that.

Either way, there was a whole soundtrack recorded, and guess for what platform it was intended.

Cheers,

Talkie

(PS: you can find the soundtrack easily on Emule and other places)

nujack · 18 April 2008, 12:29

I was also able to purchase an original of LoomCDTV from an ex-softgold-employee some years ago. This CD has a nice introduction Soundtrack at the beginning but no speech. ;O(
The soundtrack is available from CD32-allianz: http://static.cd32-allianz.de/downloads/audio/loom.mp3
BTW I know that from the game FutureWars a Soundtrack-CD was offered by the former german Amiga-Mag "AmigaJoker" limited to 50 copies. I'm searching for these soundtracks since years. If somebody can help to find this music I would be much appreciate. If the CDTV-version was finished I don't know.

andreas · 18 April 2008, 13:41

@nujack:
do you still have contact to this ex-employee?

@all collectors:
is LOOM CDTV really German-only?

Ironclaw · 18 April 2008, 13:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by andreas

@all collectors:
is LOOM CDTV really German-only?

As far as I know, only talkie version I've found and played is the german version.... english exist only on PC I think.

TheBoss · 18 April 2008, 13:46

Loom CDTV is German only, it's the same as Indiana Jones CDTV.

nujack · 18 April 2008, 14:55

[quote=andreas;408419]@nujack:
do you still have contact to this ex-employee?

No, I'm sorry. After the transaction was complete the contact was lost, but I think I have the e-mail-adress somewhere. And yes the conversion of Indy3 and Loom for the CDTV was done by softgold and is available in german language only. There are also some discussions about MonkeyIsland for CDTV but this version was never seen in public AFAIK.
Any hints about the FutureWars Soundtrack-CD?

Talkie · 20 April 2008, 08:53

The Future Wars OST: I have on some hard drive but would have to dig it out.

If you can, try this first?

ed2k://|file|[Game%20Music]%20Jean%20Baudlot%20-%20Future%20Wars%20-%20Time%20Travellers%20(Les%20Voyageurs%20du%20Temps)%20-%20(Delphine%20Software%201989).rar|28737536|440B28BAB5179722DCBD75DC218C3D02|/

You need Emule. Put the link above in your internet browser while Emule is opened, than click return in the browser, and Voila, you are queued.

I have no idea if it is what you are looking for.
I think this is the extra audio cd that came with some
original copies of Future Wars (PC disket) and than later
added as bonus audio tracks in the cd-rom version,
which featured the standard game with these tracks
not being implemented within the game.

I am only presuming, by pure deduction, that this
was in the work for a CDTV version. I could
be totally wrong, BUT....

Cheers,

Talkie

16 January 2008, 10:42	#1
Galaxy Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Canberra, Australia Age: 46 Posts: 1,417	Probably unreleased CDTV games Anyone know the status of any of these - they were all listed in the Amiga Buyers Guide magazine, Summer 1992. None are listed in HOL. Bureau of Astral Troubleshooters / Ubi Soft The Cardinal of the Kremlin / Capstone Fascination / Coktel Vision Future Wars / Interplay Horse Racing / Context Systems Indoor Sports / Context Systems Many Roads to Murder / CDTV Publishing Murder Anyone? / CDTV Publishing Mad TV / Commodore Pro Tennis Tour 2 / Ubi Soft Shadow of the Beast / Psygnosis The Terminator / Tiger Media TV Sports Football / Commodore Unreal / Ubi Soft

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
Some unreleased games	utri007	project.aGTW	2	29 October 2009 13:16
CD 32 , CDTV : Released , unreleased or homemade ?	Füleske	request.Old Rare Games	35	26 February 2009 09:16
Unreleased Games?	NytroX86	project.aGTW	19	25 February 2007 20:59
Unreleased Konomi Games	damon_sisk	request.Old Rare Games	2	12 December 2005 15:34

17 January 2008, 07:52	#2
Daff Zone Friend Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Dijon / France Posts: 173	Lots of CDTV titles were annonced but then cancelled. Seems all your games were cancelled and/or not released. As the CDTV were not a commercially succesfull machine, lots of publishers cancelled their titles or released them on a double CDTV/CD32 format later (Ik+, James Pond 2,...). Do not believe in the CDTV Commodore's catalog, it's a marketing product with no real confirmation from developers/publishers.

22 January 2008, 21:19	#4
mk1 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Helsinki / Finland Posts: 403	As far as I know they're all unreleased.

15 April 2008, 08:55	#5
andreas Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Germany Age: 50 Posts: 5,857	But Loom CDTV WAS released! Otherwise it would neither show up on Ebay currently nor would there be a box scan in HOL. Can't wait to see the final price ... (no I won't bid ... I do need to pay my rent this month )

15 April 2008, 12:09	#8
spajdr Old fart Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Ostrava/Czech Republic Age: 46 Posts: 315	250 euro, thats some amiga loving

15 April 2008, 16:38	#9
Thalion Amiga Collector Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Germany Age: 41 Posts: 679	250€ Thats really a bit much. I think i got a copy of loom for about 30€ but unfortunately missing the front cover but at least i got it.

15 April 2008, 18:59	#10
andreas Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Germany Age: 50 Posts: 5,857	Well, it looks my sarcastic remark regarding the paying of my rent was not THAT unrealistic, was it?

16 April 2008, 04:18	#11
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,438	I don't think they officially released Loom on CDTV. The game was ready for sale, but canceled. Maybe some ex Commodore/Softgold employees made something public, who knows. There were some press CD's too, iirc.

16 April 2008, 21:54	#12
Thalion Amiga Collector Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Germany Age: 41 Posts: 679	Hm then they must have made quite a lot of cds. The one i have looks like a normal CDTV release.

16 April 2008, 22:37	#13
TheBoss Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 840	As fare as I have heard the game got canceled by Lucasfilm (1992) because of the CDTV market went downhill fast so no official store release was out but not before the game was done and I'm guessing only 1 batch of cd's was made before Lucasfilm made their decision. Cost me 250 euros as mentioned but I am a collector so...but it is the most costly game I have bought and I prefer not pay this much for any game although I have seen it go for more before about 3 years ago, it is an expensive game to get usually. The CDTV version itself is a disappointment, only german text and no ingame CD Audio or Speech that we did see in other CD editions like on PC and FM Towns.

17 April 2008, 23:03	#14
Talkie Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 49	I have heard that Future Wars went pretty far to get released. It would be great to find a prototype. A big clue to the CDTV version is that Future Wars was later released on cd-rom with a new full audio soundtrack, albeit not incorporated in the game. Just the standard game, and bonus audio tracks of the new music for your listening pleasure. Or then it was that a cd audio came as a bonus, something like that. Either way, there was a whole soundtrack recorded, and guess for what platform it was intended. Cheers, Talkie (PS: you can find the soundtrack easily on Emule and other places)

18 April 2008, 12:29	#15
nujack Zone Friend Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Leipzig/Germany Age: 49 Posts: 458	I was also able to purchase an original of LoomCDTV from an ex-softgold-employee some years ago. This CD has a nice introduction Soundtrack at the beginning but no speech. ;O( The soundtrack is available from CD32-allianz: http://static.cd32-allianz.de/downloads/audio/loom.mp3 BTW I know that from the game FutureWars a Soundtrack-CD was offered by the former german Amiga-Mag "AmigaJoker" limited to 50 copies. I'm searching for these soundtracks since years. If somebody can help to find this music I would be much appreciate. If the CDTV-version was finished I don't know.

18 April 2008, 13:41	#16
andreas Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Germany Age: 50 Posts: 5,857	@nujack: do you still have contact to this ex-employee? @all collectors: is LOOM CDTV really German-only?

18 April 2008, 13:46	#18
TheBoss Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 840	Loom CDTV is German only, it's the same as Indiana Jones CDTV.

18 April 2008, 14:55	#19
nujack Zone Friend Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Leipzig/Germany Age: 49 Posts: 458	[quote=andreas;408419]@nujack: do you still have contact to this ex-employee? No, I'm sorry. After the transaction was complete the contact was lost, but I think I have the e-mail-adress somewhere. And yes the conversion of Indy3 and Loom for the CDTV was done by softgold and is available in german language only. There are also some discussions about MonkeyIsland for CDTV but this version was never seen in public AFAIK. Any hints about the FutureWars Soundtrack-CD?

20 April 2008, 08:53	#20
Talkie Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 49	The Future Wars OST: I have on some hard drive but would have to dig it out. If you can, try this first? ed2k://\|file\|[Game%20Music]%20Jean%20Baudlot%20-%20Future%20Wars%20-%20Time%20Travellers%20(Les%20Voyageurs%20du%20Temps)%20-%20(Delphine%20Software%201989).rar\|28737536\|440B28BAB5179722DCBD75DC218C3D02\|/ You need Emule. Put the link above in your internet browser while Emule is opened, than click return in the browser, and Voila, you are queued. I have no idea if it is what you are looking for. I think this is the extra audio cd that came with some original copies of Future Wars (PC disket) and than later added as bonus audio tracks in the cd-rom version, which featured the standard game with these tracks not being implemented within the game. I am only presuming, by pure deduction, that this was in the work for a CDTV version. I could be totally wrong, BUT.... Cheers, Talkie

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)