snow bros problem, Floppy, A500

trydowave · 28 February 2013, 12:00

Hi. Having trouble getting snow bros to play on my A500. All versions I try have flickering, glitchy gfx and the game runs incredibly fast. The enemys move normally, but the main character zooms around at around 100mph!

Does anyone know of a working adf preferably a one disk version.

Cheers
Tony

Amiga 500
1mb
3 External Floppy drives

Kitty · 28 February 2013, 14:03

Have you tried running with stock 512mb with no extra floppys installed, also is it an A500+ ?

trydowave · 28 February 2013, 14:34

Its a standard 500
I will try as you suggested

trydowave · 28 February 2013, 17:02

Tried no drives, tried multiple versions from the zone. Tried 512k on winue with all disks.
Winuae. None load. Only the ipf does.
The A500 loads but has the same issues.
Any more suggestions and do you know where i can find other adfs of Snow Bros?

s2325 · 28 February 2013, 17:04

Game wasn't officialy released so there are not many versions.

trydowave · 28 February 2013, 17:35

Did anyone get it to work on a real amiga then? Or onyl as an ipf?

Cheers
Tony

Retroplay · 28 February 2013, 17:55

I've zoned all current TOSEC versions.

I did a quick test in WinUAE (A500 config + 512kb fake fast) with "Snow Bros (1991)(Ocean)[cr Galahad][unreleased]".
All good, loaded and played fine.

trydowave · 28 February 2013, 20:35

did the same as you and tried 1mb and 512k and they both worked? but when i transfered to the amiga500 the music and game is still running too fast and generally not working properly. i will try to write the floppy over the serial cable instead of the parallel to see if that makes any difference. i will also try another floppy. After that i will be at a losS.

UPDATE: transfered the galahad adf over serial and parallel now, and ive tested in 512k and 1mb on my real amiga. on 1mb the game still is running in turbo with glitching gfx. in 512k it wont even boot, screen goes red as soon as i turn it on. This happened before on a winue config on my other pc so im not sure if theres a connection.

Very strange, dont know whats happening?

Retroplay · 28 February 2013, 23:23

I'll dig out the A500 tomorrow and give it a spin.

I seriously need to find a permanent spot for it here in the living room with the rest of the Commodore gear.

Galahad/FLT · 01 March 2013, 09:47

My version of Snow Bros was 1meg only, once game has loaded, thats it, no more ingame disk access apart from hiscore saving.

As for your flickering GFX, no idea, i didn't do any blitter fixes for the game and it should run standard fine on your machine.

Is it the only game that fails to work properly? Might be an Amiga related problem.

DDNI · 01 March 2013, 09:57

"might be an amiga related problem"? Duh yeah

trydowave · 01 March 2013, 11:18

It's the only game that's consistently failed yes... I think 2 games out of the 50 or so that I’ve transferred have failed on boot. Supercars 2 and Ruff and Tumble for instance made this weird noise and the image went all wiggly, kinda like the Amiga just had a change in voltage or it went into ntsc mode?! But. I transferred them again, using different adfs and they’re working fine now.
All snow bros adfs have the same problem. It’s weird. It's not crashing. It's all speed up and funny looking...
Ok. Keep an eye on this space coz I’m going to sling it up on YouTube for you to have a look and then you'll know what I’m going on about.

Cheers
Tony

DDNI · 01 March 2013, 11:19

Real shot in the dark here, has your A500 been upgraded with a 68010?

trydowave · 01 March 2013, 11:27

Dont think so. I did take it apart to clean and I I remember right I think it was the 68000. Is there anyway to check that from Workbench? I don't wanna take this thing apart again.

It's one of the older A500s I think as it has the red power led instead of the green.

DDNI · 01 March 2013, 11:50

hmm iirc, type cpu in cli
Might not work though.

trydowave · 01 March 2013, 11:55

no... didnt work

dlfrsilver · 01 March 2013, 11:57

I have noticed tha

trydowave · 01 March 2013, 12:29

Ok... here's the link to the Youtube video showing exactly what happens when I try to load snowbros. Sorry in advance for any juddering or long bits, had no time to put this through an editor.

[ Show youtube player ]

Cheers
Tony

DDNI · 01 March 2013, 12:37

ouch that looks ugly.
How is your amiga connected to the tv? have you tried different options?

trydowave · 01 March 2013, 12:51

RGB Scart.
No other games are affected btw. Beside, I really don't think thats it as parts of the game run at different speeds. You can see the main snowman character runs really fast where the enemies run normally.

28 February 2013, 12:00	#1
trydowave Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: N/A Posts: 873	snow bros problem, Floppy, A500 Hi. Having trouble getting snow bros to play on my A500. All versions I try have flickering, glitchy gfx and the game runs incredibly fast. The enemys move normally, but the main character zooms around at around 100mph! Does anyone know of a working adf preferably a one disk version. Cheers Tony Amiga 500 1mb 3 External Floppy drives

28 February 2013, 20:35	#8
trydowave Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: N/A Posts: 873	did the same as you and tried 1mb and 512k and they both worked? but when i transfered to the amiga500 the music and game is still running too fast and generally not working properly. i will try to write the floppy over the serial cable instead of the parallel to see if that makes any difference. i will also try another floppy. After that i will be at a losS. UPDATE: transfered the galahad adf over serial and parallel now, and ive tested in 512k and 1mb on my real amiga. on 1mb the game still is running in turbo with glitching gfx. in 512k it wont even boot, screen goes red as soon as i turn it on. This happened before on a winue config on my other pc so im not sure if theres a connection. Very strange, dont know whats happening? Last edited by trydowave; 28 February 2013 at 20:50.

01 March 2013, 12:29	#18
trydowave Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: N/A Posts: 873	Ok... here's the link to the Youtube video showing exactly what happens when I try to load snowbros. Sorry in advance for any juddering or long bits, had no time to put this through an editor. [ Show youtube player ] Cheers Tony Last edited by trydowave; 01 March 2013 at 12:51.

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28 February 2013, 14:03	#2
Kitty Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: London UK Posts: 1,532	Have you tried running with stock 512mb with no extra floppys installed, also is it an A500+ ?

28 February 2013, 14:34	#3
trydowave Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: N/A Posts: 873	Its a standard 500 I will try as you suggested

28 February 2013, 17:02	#4
trydowave Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: N/A Posts: 873	Tried no drives, tried multiple versions from the zone. Tried 512k on winue with all disks. Winuae. None load. Only the ipf does. The A500 loads but has the same issues. Any more suggestions and do you know where i can find other adfs of Snow Bros?

28 February 2013, 17:04	#5
s2325 Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Gargore Age: 43 Posts: 17,789	Game wasn't officialy released so there are not many versions.

28 February 2013, 17:35	#6
trydowave Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: N/A Posts: 873	Did anyone get it to work on a real amiga then? Or onyl as an ipf? Cheers Tony

28 February 2013, 17:55	#7
Retroplay Lemon Curry ? Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Denmark Age: 49 Posts: 4,084	I've zoned all current TOSEC versions. I did a quick test in WinUAE (A500 config + 512kb fake fast) with "Snow Bros (1991)(Ocean)[cr Galahad][unreleased]". All good, loaded and played fine.

28 February 2013, 23:23	#9
Retroplay Lemon Curry ? Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Denmark Age: 49 Posts: 4,084	I'll dig out the A500 tomorrow and give it a spin. I seriously need to find a permanent spot for it here in the living room with the rest of the Commodore gear.

01 March 2013, 09:47	#10
Galahad/FLT Going nowhere Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: United Kingdom Age: 50 Posts: 8,994	My version of Snow Bros was 1meg only, once game has loaded, thats it, no more ingame disk access apart from hiscore saving. As for your flickering GFX, no idea, i didn't do any blitter fixes for the game and it should run standard fine on your machine. Is it the only game that fails to work properly? Might be an Amiga related problem.

01 March 2013, 09:57	#11
DDNI Targ Explorer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 5,432	"might be an amiga related problem"? Duh yeah

01 March 2013, 11:18	#12
trydowave Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: N/A Posts: 873	It's the only game that's consistently failed yes... I think 2 games out of the 50 or so that I’ve transferred have failed on boot. Supercars 2 and Ruff and Tumble for instance made this weird noise and the image went all wiggly, kinda like the Amiga just had a change in voltage or it went into ntsc mode?! But. I transferred them again, using different adfs and they’re working fine now. All snow bros adfs have the same problem. It’s weird. It's not crashing. It's all speed up and funny looking... Ok. Keep an eye on this space coz I’m going to sling it up on YouTube for you to have a look and then you'll know what I’m going on about. Cheers Tony

01 March 2013, 11:19	#13
DDNI Targ Explorer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 5,432	Real shot in the dark here, has your A500 been upgraded with a 68010?

01 March 2013, 11:27	#14
trydowave Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: N/A Posts: 873	Dont think so. I did take it apart to clean and I I remember right I think it was the 68000. Is there anyway to check that from Workbench? I don't wanna take this thing apart again. It's one of the older A500s I think as it has the red power led instead of the green.

01 March 2013, 11:50	#15
DDNI Targ Explorer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 5,432	hmm iirc, type cpu in cli Might not work though.

01 March 2013, 11:55	#16
trydowave Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: N/A Posts: 873	no... didnt work

01 March 2013, 11:57	#17
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-SPS France Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 46 Posts: 10,421	I have noticed tha

01 March 2013, 12:37	#19
DDNI Targ Explorer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 5,432	ouch that looks ugly. How is your amiga connected to the tv? have you tried different options?

01 March 2013, 12:51	#20
trydowave Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: N/A Posts: 873	RGB Scart. No other games are affected btw. Beside, I really don't think thats it as parts of the game run at different speeds. You can see the main snowman character runs really fast where the enemies run normally.

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