Open Source A500 accelerator cooking nicely

Pat the Cat · 31 December 2016, 00:11

It's called the TerribleFire, and that's how the poster appears on twitter and youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCu4...y1ILAxNh7TGsmQ

What makes these (020 and 030) boards a little different is - open source.

You can download the board designs and get them made up by a third party.

Then either add the chips yourself or pay somebody else to do that.

https://github.com/terriblefire/tf520

It's not a Vampire but still pretty good that new boards are being developed. This one on a shoe string budget in Glasgow, Scotland, by Stephen Leary.

idrougge · 31 December 2016, 01:27

Looks good, but without RAM it's probably a waste of fine 68020 processors.

Pat the Cat · 31 December 2016, 01:53

Give him a little credit... look to the right of the CPU.

pandy71 · 31 December 2016, 01:56

http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=...9&postcount=92 - author himself.

Pat the Cat · 31 December 2016, 01:58

Maybe, but he's never, ever started a thread on this board. According to his profile, anyway.

idrougge · 31 December 2016, 02:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pat the Cat

Give him a little credit... look to the right of the CPU.

I looked at the DirtyPCBs link; it must lead to an older revision of the card.

Pat the Cat · 31 December 2016, 03:01

Well, you are right in saying an accelerator card without memory is a waste of effort... but not true, in this case.

whiteb · 31 December 2016, 08:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by idrougge

I looked at the DirtyPCBs link; it must lead to an older revision of the card.

That is the 020, he is using SRAM on the 030 board he is working on.

The 020 with SRAM is about to be updated to Github, he just wants to make sure its working 100% (Its in the video), he just doesnt want anyone running off to build them before he is happy.

plasmab · 31 December 2016, 20:45

Hey I just noticed this thread.

Just finished populating the board...

The FPU and IDE still don't have firmware yet but the SRAM is working (albeit) using the slow async bus at the moment. Will make burst work eventually

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plasmab · 31 December 2016, 20:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by idrougge

Looks good, but without RAM it's probably a waste of fine 68020 processors.

The 020 and (upcoming) 040 boards are meant for research only (let . They wont have RAM (although i might try an SD port on the 040 board and write some drivers for it.

The 030 board is a stab at seeing what can fit on a 10cm x 10cm board.

Pat the Cat · 31 December 2016, 21:04

Well, I think you're doing great work. Please keep it up.

plasmab · 01 January 2017, 00:24

RAM benchmarks at 16Mhz... not even using STERM yet.

FPU is not working at all... v strange

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Locutus · 01 January 2017, 00:51

Always great to see these cool hobby projects on the Amiga and complete with code/layout releases is the way to go :-)

Awesome!

whiteb · 01 January 2017, 02:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by plasmab

RAM benchmarks at 16Mhz... not even using STERM yet.

FPU is not working at all... v strange

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Does the 68030 / 68882 need any special instructions (say in Verilog or CPLD) to make it available at system init ?

plasmab · 01 January 2017, 02:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by whiteb

Does the 68030 / 68882 need any special instructions (say in Verilog or CPLD) to make it available at system init ?

From what I can tell we simply assert the chip select during the correct CPU SPACE cycle. I have used a 32 bit wide bus.. i wonder if that actually causes issues.

whiteb · 01 January 2017, 03:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by plasmab

From what I can tell we simply assert the chip select during the correct CPU SPACE cycle. I have used a 32 bit wide bus.. i wonder if that actually causes issues.

All I can pick up from the datasheets, is that to configure the 68882 to 32bit bus, A0 and Size must be strapped HIGH. I dont know how that works in the 68030 with FPU on the same chip.

Pat the Cat · 01 January 2017, 03:08

This any use? Original 1988 datasheet on the 68882.

Probably already got, if you've got that far.

http://www.rlocman.ru/i/File/dat/Fre...68882EI16A.pdf

Figure 11, page 14 has some diagrams explaining.

EDIT EDIT: Weird, need +5V on A0 of the 68882... would never have guessed that.

idrougge · 01 January 2017, 06:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by plasmab

The 020 and (upcoming) 040 boards are meant for research only (let . They wont have RAM (although i might try an SD port on the 040 board and write some drivers for it.

The 030 board is a stab at seeing what can fit on a 10cm x 10cm board.

Oh, so it's your card, plasmab. Good to see you're not sticking to the old Frances/Lucas layouts.

plasmab · 01 January 2017, 10:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by idrougge

Oh, so it's your card, plasmab. Good to see you're not sticking to the old Frances/Lucas layouts.

Routing and layout is most of the fun!

plasmab · 01 January 2017, 10:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pat the Cat

This any use? Original 1988 datasheet on the 68882.

Probably already got, if you've got that far.

http://www.rlocman.ru/i/File/dat/Fre...68882EI16A.pdf

Figure 11, page 14 has some diagrams explaining.

EDIT EDIT: Weird, need +5V on A0 of the 68882... would never have guessed that.

Thats what i used for reference and thats how I wired it.

VCC to A0 and SIZ. 32 Bit bus wired and DSACK0/DSACK1 wired to the 030. Not much to go wrong here from what i can tell.

If i get nowhere i'll drop the FPU into memory space and poke at it from there. (One of the amazing things about the CPLD setup i have)

31 December 2016, 00:11	#1
Pat the Cat Banned Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Nottingham, UK Posts: 481	Open Source A500 accelerator cooking nicely It's called the TerribleFire, and that's how the poster appears on twitter and youtube. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCu4...y1ILAxNh7TGsmQ What makes these (020 and 030) boards a little different is - open source. You can download the board designs and get them made up by a third party. Then either add the chips yourself or pay somebody else to do that. https://github.com/terriblefire/tf520 It's not a Vampire but still pretty good that new boards are being developed. This one on a shoe string budget in Glasgow, Scotland, by Stephen Leary.

31 December 2016, 01:53	#3
Pat the Cat Banned Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Nottingham, UK Posts: 481	Give him a little credit... look to the right of the CPU. Attached Thumbnails

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31 December 2016, 01:27	#2
idrougge Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Stockholm Posts: 4,332	Looks good, but without RAM it's probably a waste of fine 68020 processors.

31 December 2016, 01:56	#4
pandy71 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: PL? Posts: 2,743	http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=...9&postcount=92 - author himself.

31 December 2016, 01:58	#5
Pat the Cat Banned Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Nottingham, UK Posts: 481	Maybe, but he's never, ever started a thread on this board. According to his profile, anyway.

31 December 2016, 03:01	#7
Pat the Cat Banned Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Nottingham, UK Posts: 481	Well, you are right in saying an accelerator card without memory is a waste of effort... but not true, in this case.

31 December 2016, 20:45	#9
plasmab Banned Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: UK Posts: 2,917	Hey I just noticed this thread. Just finished populating the board... The FPU and IDE still don't have firmware yet but the SRAM is working (albeit) using the slow async bus at the moment. Will make burst work eventually Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

31 December 2016, 21:04	#11
Pat the Cat Banned Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Nottingham, UK Posts: 481	Well, I think you're doing great work. Please keep it up.

01 January 2017, 00:24	#12
plasmab Banned Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: UK Posts: 2,917	RAM benchmarks at 16Mhz... not even using STERM yet. FPU is not working at all... v strange Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

01 January 2017, 00:51	#13
Locutus Registered User Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Finland Posts: 1,176	Always great to see these cool hobby projects on the Amiga and complete with code/layout releases is the way to go :-) Awesome!

01 January 2017, 03:08	#17
Pat the Cat Banned Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Nottingham, UK Posts: 481	This any use? Original 1988 datasheet on the 68882. Probably already got, if you've got that far. http://www.rlocman.ru/i/File/dat/Fre...68882EI16A.pdf Figure 11, page 14 has some diagrams explaining. EDIT EDIT: Weird, need +5V on A0 of the 68882... would never have guessed that.

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