Cinemaware needs your help!!

Kristian95 · 20 October 2007, 10:52

The guys at Cinemaware are looking for original versions of many of their classic Amiga games. If you have any of these games they will appreciate it a lot if you send them adf files of the disks.
You can read more about it at Cinemaware's forum http://www.cinemaware.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1923

RCK · 20 October 2007, 12:43

Don't they know about IPF archives ?

DamienD · 20 October 2007, 13:51

Exactly RCK

There was some discussion about this a while ago in the Cinemawares Sinbad Image is a CRACK thread:

Quote:

Originally Posted by bippym

Maybe someone should contact them and supply them with the IPFs (Where available!!)

Quote:

Originally Posted by fiath

Already did. They were planning to put up the IPF's instead... But it never happened...

Retro-Nerd · 20 October 2007, 13:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by fiath

Already did. They were planning to put up the IPF's instead... But it never happened...

They probably afraid of too much "What the hell is a IPF? How to use them?" e-mails.

Kristian95 · 20 October 2007, 13:57

come on guys, it doesn't take that long to make an adf image of your originals and e-mail it to them. I thought the Amiga community would be happy to help. Heck, I have supplied them with original versions of Wings, ICFTD and Rocket Ranger... oh and in case you want to sell your original game they want to buy them too hehehehe... for that I told them to go ebay

Retro-Nerd · 20 October 2007, 13:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kristian95

come on guys, it doesn't take that long to make an adf image of your originals and e-mail it to them. I thought the Amiga community would be happy to help. Heck, I have supplied them with original versions of Wings, ICFTD and Rocket Ranger... oh and in case you want to sell your original game they want to buy them too hehehehe... for that I told them to go ebay

For some games, like "Lords of the Rising Sun", you can't do a proper ADF. This game has a tricky copy protection. So yes, they should use the IPF's instead.

@Charlie:

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ipf

Charlie · 20 October 2007, 14:03

Tell me again, what's an IPF..?

DamienD · 20 October 2007, 14:06

A scan of the manual is also needed for Wings so you can get past the protection.

Kristian95 · 20 October 2007, 15:12

true true, but if you look at the link, the games they look for at the moment are: ICFTD2, DOTC, TV sports baseball (European release) and King of Chicago... none of those had manual code protection IIRC...

YoJoe! · 20 October 2007, 15:26

Why don't they just recompile the games from their source code?

If they are really cinemaware then they own the source code and can recompile it without copy protection and without crack screens.

kriz · 20 October 2007, 15:45

Do you think they still got the source ? I dont think so...

YoJoe! · 20 October 2007, 16:30

It would be very stupid to destroy valuable source codes to expensive games.

kriz · 20 October 2007, 17:07

YoYou would be surpised to see how often this happens..

Kristian95 · 20 October 2007, 17:22

besides, we have to remember that the current Cinemaware is a reconstruction of the classic company Cinemaware. Ie. they have bought the copyrights etc and some of the crew of the new Cinemaware were part of the classic company too, that I think is the main reason that they have no old archives and what have you not

Anyway, Cinemaware fans out there, help these guys out

EmuChicken · 20 October 2007, 17:40

damn, ... anyone, please give em the it came from the desert 2 antheads jobby....

prolly looking at a sequel kinda thing on the gba or whatever X)

Kristian95 · 20 October 2007, 18:33

if I had it I would have sent it to them already

jotd · 20 October 2007, 20:09

I had a chat with Matthew Kile who has an agreement with Cinemaware (and with me BTW) to create an embedded version of WinUAE/WHDLoad to create ready to run Amiga games (you just see a .exe file, every other stuff is hidden to the end user).

He has problems with some Cinemaware titles and confirmed that they don't have the source code of the games anymore.

BTW all ADFs downloadable from Cinemaware website are cracks except the unprotected ones such as ICFD.

turrican3 · 20 October 2007, 22:18

that's too bad that there is no uae for xbox360, imagine wings on the xboxlive and more wings 2 they could win money and make new games for the amiga.
Nobody want to make an uae port for 360 ???
If it could be real

THEY should think about the possibility !

Retro-Nerd · 20 October 2007, 22:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by jotd

BTW all ADFs downloadable from Cinemaware website are cracks except the unprotected ones such as ICFD.

Did they ever replace the faulty ICFTD Disk 3 on their website?

jotd · 20 October 2007, 22:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retro-Nerd

Did they ever replace the faulty ICFTD Disk 3 on their website?

I had forgotten that one!! I even wrote a special workaround in my WHDLoad install to copy as much as possible of the file, then append the remaining bit, so the install works with Cinemaware images.

btw most Cinemaware games are available on my webspace:

http://jotd.free.fr/amigastuff/legalgames/

20 October 2007, 10:52	#1
Kristian95 A4000T owner :) Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: California, USA Age: 49 Posts: 498	Cinemaware needs your help!! The guys at Cinemaware are looking for original versions of many of their classic Amiga games. If you have any of these games they will appreciate it a lot if you send them adf files of the disks. You can read more about it at Cinemaware's forum http://www.cinemaware.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1923

20 October 2007, 14:06	#8
DamienD Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London / Sydney Age: 47 Posts: 20,420	A scan of the manual is also needed for Wings so you can get past the protection. Last edited by DamienD; 20 October 2007 at 14:15.

20 October 2007, 20:09	#17
jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 52 Posts: 8,164	I had a chat with Matthew Kile who has an agreement with Cinemaware (and with me BTW) to create an embedded version of WinUAE/WHDLoad to create ready to run Amiga games (you just see a .exe file, every other stuff is hidden to the end user). He has problems with some Cinemaware titles and confirmed that they don't have the source code of the games anymore. BTW all ADFs downloadable from Cinemaware website are cracks except the unprotected ones such as ICFD. Last edited by jotd; 20 October 2007 at 21:02.

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20 October 2007, 12:43	#2
RCK Administrator Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Paris / France Age: 45 Posts: 3,086	Don't they know about IPF archives ?

20 October 2007, 13:57	#5
Kristian95 A4000T owner :) Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: California, USA Age: 49 Posts: 498	come on guys, it doesn't take that long to make an adf image of your originals and e-mail it to them. I thought the Amiga community would be happy to help. Heck, I have supplied them with original versions of Wings, ICFTD and Rocket Ranger... oh and in case you want to sell your original game they want to buy them too hehehehe... for that I told them to go ebay

20 October 2007, 14:03	#7
Charlie . . Mouse . . Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Nowhere Age: 55 Posts: 1,792	Tell me again, what's an IPF..?

20 October 2007, 15:12	#9
Kristian95 A4000T owner :) Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: California, USA Age: 49 Posts: 498	true true, but if you look at the link, the games they look for at the moment are: ICFTD2, DOTC, TV sports baseball (European release) and King of Chicago... none of those had manual code protection IIRC...

20 October 2007, 15:26	#10
YoJoe! Amiga Enthusiast Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: USA Posts: 217	Why don't they just recompile the games from their source code? If they are really cinemaware then they own the source code and can recompile it without copy protection and without crack screens.

20 October 2007, 15:45	#11
kriz Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: No(R)Way Age: 41 Posts: 3,187	Do you think they still got the source ? I dont think so...

20 October 2007, 16:30	#12
YoJoe! Amiga Enthusiast Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: USA Posts: 217	It would be very stupid to destroy valuable source codes to expensive games.

20 October 2007, 17:07	#13
kriz Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: No(R)Way Age: 41 Posts: 3,187	YoYou would be surpised to see how often this happens..

20 October 2007, 17:22	#14
Kristian95 A4000T owner :) Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: California, USA Age: 49 Posts: 498	besides, we have to remember that the current Cinemaware is a reconstruction of the classic company Cinemaware. Ie. they have bought the copyrights etc and some of the crew of the new Cinemaware were part of the classic company too, that I think is the main reason that they have no old archives and what have you not Anyway, Cinemaware fans out there, help these guys out

20 October 2007, 17:40	#15
EmuChicken Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Nagoya, Japan (moved!) Age: 41 Posts: 746	damn, ... anyone, please give em the it came from the desert 2 antheads jobby.... prolly looking at a sequel kinda thing on the gba or whatever X)

20 October 2007, 18:33	#16
Kristian95 A4000T owner :) Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: California, USA Age: 49 Posts: 498	if I had it I would have sent it to them already

20 October 2007, 22:18	#18
turrican3 Moon 1969 = amiga 1985 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: belgium Age: 48 Posts: 3,913	that's too bad that there is no uae for xbox360, imagine wings on the xboxlive and more wings 2 they could win money and make new games for the amiga. Nobody want to make an uae port for 360 ??? If it could be real THEY should think about the possibility !

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