Which old games don't work with A600?

1988 · 22 June 2011, 21:51

Hi,

is there a list of games which don't run on the A600 because of the ECS chip/kickstart 2?

Thanks,
1988

alexh · 22 June 2011, 22:16

Fit a hard drive (or CF card) and use WHDload and forget about floppy incompatibility?

1988 · 22 June 2011, 22:43

No whdload... I just wanna use the hxc floppy emulator with sd card support.... but i'm not sure if the old games work on a a600

fitzsteve · 22 June 2011, 22:49

In that case get a Rom switch and use 1.3 and other Rom :-)

You should be covered for most games. Sorry, don't know of any list though.

Steve

1988 · 22 June 2011, 22:53

Sure it's only the kick rom and not the ecs too?

rare_j · 22 June 2011, 23:11

When I had an A500+ I used relokick for the odd few games that needed it.
I dont recall ECS being a problem for me, ever.
So if you can get that to work from your hxc you should be covered for everything.

fitzsteve · 22 June 2011, 23:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1988

Sure it's only the kick rom and not the ecs too?

I'm sure you'll find a handful of games that wont work, like some that maybe need KS1.2, also I thought you could select OCS in early start-up on A600? Or maybe thats only with 3.1 Rom?

Anyway - I would get too worried about it, most if not nearly all games will work if you have the Rom switch (except AGA of course)

I tested about 80-100 games on my HxC 1.3Rom A600 and I don't remember any not working!

Steve

NovaCoder · 23 June 2011, 03:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by fitzsteve

In that case get a Rom switch and use 1.3 and other Rom :-)
Steve

Or get an ACA

alexh · 23 June 2011, 08:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1988

Sure it's only the kick rom and not the ecs too?

IMO the problem is 90% Kickstart 2+, 8% lack of Fast RAM and 2% ECS.

Fit a KS1.3 and 1Mbyte TrapDoor FAST RAM expansion and it will load a very high percentage of floppy games.

Galahad/FLT · 23 June 2011, 10:15

Most games will work fine on A600, certainly any problematic games were already found not working on the A500+ and were fixed as a result.

only issue you'll have is games requiring numpad support, as obviously the A600 doesn't have one.

deicidal · 23 June 2011, 10:45

Agreed, kickstart switch should do the for most. In the good old days I had an ECS 1.3 machine and I can only think of two games that it caused problems with, double dragon II and bomberman and that was only as it activated the 60hz stretch screen mode which my tv hated.

duga · 23 June 2011, 11:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexh

IMO the problem is 90% Kickstart 2+, 8% lack of Fast RAM and 2% ECS.

Fit a KS1.3 and 1Mbyte TrapDoor FAST RAM expansion and it will load a very high percentage of floppy games.

Trap door FAST RAM? In an A600?

andreas · 18 July 2011, 17:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galahad/FLT

only issue you'll have is games requiring numpad support, as obviously the A600 doesn't have one.

Good catch!
So One Step Beyond might be a real problem with its numeric level codes, because I'm pretty sure that when I played it on my A1000, the numeric keys above the letters were not accepted. Same in WinUAE. (And also remember to never block the numeric keys due to their usage as a replacement "joystick")

Dreedo · 19 July 2011, 09:34

I have an A600, and i have yet to encounter a game that doesn't work on it. But i tend to stick to later games in the Amiga period, i think the oldest i have played was 1987, so possibly they are compatible with KS 2?

alexh · 19 July 2011, 09:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dreedo

i think the oldest i have played was 1987, so possibly they are compatible with KS 2?

Unlikely by design as KS2.04 is 1991

Dreedo · 19 July 2011, 10:03

Oh well, my A600 hasn't had any problems yet, so i guess it didn't appear in the most common games, because they're the only ones I've heard of. :P

zipper · 19 July 2011, 10:47

At the time KS2 came out the success rate of the games was about 70-80 % as the mags did some testing (CU and/or AF).

duga · 19 July 2011, 11:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexh

Unlikely by design as KS2.04 is 1991

And I think the 37.350 ROM (found on the A600 1.5 revision) is from 1992.

22 June 2011, 21:51	#1
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22 June 2011, 22:16	#2
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,335	Fit a hard drive (or CF card) and use WHDload and forget about floppy incompatibility?

22 June 2011, 22:43	#3
1988 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Germany Posts: 117	No whdload... I just wanna use the hxc floppy emulator with sd card support.... but i'm not sure if the old games work on a a600

22 June 2011, 22:49	#4
fitzsteve Professional slacker! Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Kent, UK Age: 44 Posts: 6,683	In that case get a Rom switch and use 1.3 and other Rom :-) You should be covered for most games. Sorry, don't know of any list though. Steve

22 June 2011, 22:53	#5
1988 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Germany Posts: 117	Sure it's only the kick rom and not the ecs too?

22 June 2011, 23:11	#6
rare_j Zone Friend Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: London Posts: 1,176	When I had an A500+ I used relokick for the odd few games that needed it. I dont recall ECS being a problem for me, ever. So if you can get that to work from your hxc you should be covered for everything.

23 June 2011, 10:15	#10
Galahad/FLT Going nowhere Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: United Kingdom Age: 50 Posts: 8,986	Most games will work fine on A600, certainly any problematic games were already found not working on the A500+ and were fixed as a result. only issue you'll have is games requiring numpad support, as obviously the A600 doesn't have one.

23 June 2011, 10:45	#11
deicidal Registered Insane Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Ununited Kingdom Posts: 792	Agreed, kickstart switch should do the for most. In the good old days I had an ECS 1.3 machine and I can only think of two games that it caused problems with, double dragon II and bomberman and that was only as it activated the 60hz stretch screen mode which my tv hated.

19 July 2011, 09:34	#14
Dreedo Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: West Yorkshire, UK Age: 30 Posts: 657	I have an A600, and i have yet to encounter a game that doesn't work on it. But i tend to stick to later games in the Amiga period, i think the oldest i have played was 1987, so possibly they are compatible with KS 2?

19 July 2011, 10:03	#16
Dreedo Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: West Yorkshire, UK Age: 30 Posts: 657	Oh well, my A600 hasn't had any problems yet, so i guess it didn't appear in the most common games, because they're the only ones I've heard of. :P

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zipper Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: finland Posts: 1,837	At the time KS2 came out the success rate of the games was about 70-80 % as the mags did some testing (CU and/or AF).

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