how the hell do i get this classicwb installed

leytond · 08 February 2009, 12:35

ive been trying now for 2 weaks, cant get this thing working,
ive downloaded the classicwb, it says i have to extract the system.zip file and put it into dh0:
there is no system.zip file there is a system file but its not a zip file and it dont work in dh0:
i can not connect my 3.5" drive to the pc, two reasons winuae wont work on my pc, and the pc has all sata 2 connectors.
HELP.

leytond · 08 February 2009, 12:52

i want to install this classicwb on a real 1200, not a pretend one with an emulator. can this be done, ?????

Bloodwych · 08 February 2009, 13:37

The whole point of the ClassicWB packs is there are for real Amiga's first and foremost.

The WinUAE method is just the quickest way, but not the only way. You can use crossdos and file splitting programs, PCMCIA network cards, PCMCIA flash cards, serial/parallel cables - there are quite a few options.

As PC's start to go more legacy free, it is becoming harder as it cuts down options.

You need to make the system.zip file yourself, as described at the bottom of these instructions:

http://classicwb.abime.net/classicweb/instructions.htm

It is very easy to do, especially if you've already got it running in WinUAE.

Then you need to look at the file transfer section:

http://classicwb.abime.net/classicweb/filetransfer.htm

This describes ways of getting the System.zip file across to the Amiga. Basically what you're doing is zipping up the contents of the System.HDF file from within WinUAE, then copying that across to your Amiga hard drive and finally unzipping it Amiga side. An ADF disk image is provided to unzip the file once you've got it over to the Amiga if you wish to use it, but you will need to write that image file back to a real Amiga disk first as described in the links above.

It really is all about putting the time in to learn the various methods available to accomplish this.

leytond · 08 February 2009, 13:48

it says i need to have that winuae thing to create the zip file, winuae wont work on my pc
my amiga has a cd dvd rom on it so transfering files aint a problem,
its creating the files that i cant do .
how do i get to the contents of the system.hdf file. ??
the question that i have is , how do i get the system.zip file , without winuae.

leytond · 08 February 2009, 13:51

Installing from scratch

1. Boot your Workbench install disk and use HDtoolbox to setup your hard drive, naming the first partition DH0:
2. Boot the disk again and format DH0: , calling it whatever you wish.
3. Copy the "System.zip" file onto your first hard drive partition, device DH0:
4. Write "Real_Amiga_Install.ADF" back to a normal Amiga 3.5" disk. Details of how to achieve this can be found in the file transfer section.
5. Boot from the install disk created in 4) and follow the on-screen instructions.

it says in 3: coppy the system.zip file
but it dosnt say how to get the system.zip file.
HELP.

prowler · 08 February 2009, 13:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by leytond

Installing from scratch

1. Boot your Workbench install disk and use HDtoolbox to setup your hard drive, naming the first partition DH0:
2. Boot the disk again and format DH0: , calling it whatever you wish.
3. Copy the "System.zip" file onto your first hard drive partition, device DH0:
4. Write "Real_Amiga_Install.ADF" back to a normal Amiga 3.5" disk. Details of how to achieve this can be found in the file transfer section.
5. Boot from the install disk created in 4) and follow the on-screen instructions.

it says in 3: coppy the system.zip file
but it dosnt say how to get the system.zip file.
HELP.

You may not like it, but you're really going to find this much easier if you would just install WinUAE on your PC and get it running.

The necessary ROM file can be dumped from your Amiga.

You can get plenty of help with this from members here, but you must knuckle down and show some enthusiasm and determination and make your questions much less vague.

Bloodwych · 08 February 2009, 13:59

It does say - but it can only be created from within WinUAE or an Amiga emulator, which unfortunately for you doesn't work for whatever reason?

Another option may be ADFVIEW, but I've never used it or know a link for it. It may be able to copy the files from System.HDF to another location without using WinUAE.

I'm afraid I don't provide the Sytem.zip files myself, so it's just a case of seeing if someone else has a solution that doesn't involve using an emulator.

leytond · 08 February 2009, 14:14

is there any way of getting this winuae thing to run, it says that rom files are missing,
i dont have the facility to link my amiga to the pc to dump the rom,
ive been at this for 2 weaks now surley there is a way
cant i just burn the files to cd and run it on the amiga . ??
is there someware i can just get the zip file from,???

DH · 08 February 2009, 14:16

ADF Opus will do the job, if it work on Vista. http://sourceforge.net/projects/adfopus/

You'll be able to burn all the files to a cd, then transfer them to your miggy's HDD and you should be up and running

prowler · 08 February 2009, 14:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by leytond

is there any way of getting this winuae thing to run, it says that rom files are missing,
i dont have the facility to link my amiga to the pc to dump the rom,
ive been at this for 2 weaks now surley there is a way
cant i just burn the files to cd and run it on the amiga . ??

You need an Amiga utility called GrabKick. Search for it on Aminet here:
http://aminet.net/search
This will grab the ROM image file you need to get WinUAE working.

prowler

PS. Trust me, if you get WinUAE working on your PC, you'll not regret it.

leytond · 08 February 2009, 14:21

if i had hair id pull it all out,

leytond · 08 February 2009, 14:24

how dose this adfopus work,

leytond · 08 February 2009, 14:26

chears guys but ill give this up as a bad job, its all above my head this,

prowler · 08 February 2009, 14:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by leytond

chears guys but ill give this up as a bad job, its all above my head this,

Hey, do you really mean that? Do we all get a break from this now?

DH · 08 February 2009, 15:01

Make a folder and name it ClassicWB on your desktop

When you run ADF Opus there should be a window already open called Windows Directory. Search for your folder within this and open it.

now, select open and load in the system.hdf from ClassicWB into adf opus, select all the files and drag and drop them all into the other window. Close ADF Opus and open the folder on your Desktop that you created earlier and you should see all the ClassicWB files that you copied using ADF Opus

Now you can use Vista to write all the files to a CD. Put the CD in you miggy's drive and transfer them all to your HDD. Done!

DH · 08 February 2009, 18:18

I wonder if it would be worth extracting the files from the System.hdf using ADF Opus for Leytond, Zipping them and uploading them all to Magix ftp for him to download, unzip and write to his CD then transplant the damn things onto his miggy's HDD.

Or will this just confuse Leytond even more 'cause he'll have to download and use filezilla to access Magix ftp.

prowler · 08 February 2009, 18:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by DemonHellraiser

I wonder if it would be worth extracting the files from the System.hdf using ADF Opus for Leytond, Zipping them and uploading them all to Magix ftp for him to download, unzip and write to his CD then transplant the damn things onto his miggy's HDD.

Or will this just confuse Leytond even more 'cause he'll have to download and use filezilla to access Magix ftp.

I would tend to go with the latter, mate.

TCD · 08 February 2009, 18:28

Well he can download stuff from the FTP without filezilla...

DoogUK · 08 February 2009, 18:28

I've just uploaded the system.zip for him

prowler · 08 February 2009, 18:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by DoogUK

I've just uploaded the system.zip for him

So now we'll see.

08 February 2009, 12:35	#1
leytond MY 1200 IS AWSOME Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: doncaster england Age: 56 Posts: 700	how the hell do i get this classicwb installed ive been trying now for 2 weaks, cant get this thing working, ive downloaded the classicwb, it says i have to extract the system.zip file and put it into dh0: there is no system.zip file there is a system file but its not a zip file and it dont work in dh0: i can not connect my 3.5" drive to the pc, two reasons winuae wont work on my pc, and the pc has all sata 2 connectors. HELP.

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08 February 2009, 12:52	#2
leytond MY 1200 IS AWSOME Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: doncaster england Age: 56 Posts: 700	i want to install this classicwb on a real 1200, not a pretend one with an emulator. can this be done, ?????

08 February 2009, 13:37	#3
Bloodwych Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: I'm behind you! Posts: 3,763	The whole point of the ClassicWB packs is there are for real Amiga's first and foremost. The WinUAE method is just the quickest way, but not the only way. You can use crossdos and file splitting programs, PCMCIA network cards, PCMCIA flash cards, serial/parallel cables - there are quite a few options. As PC's start to go more legacy free, it is becoming harder as it cuts down options. You need to make the system.zip file yourself, as described at the bottom of these instructions: http://classicwb.abime.net/classicweb/instructions.htm It is very easy to do, especially if you've already got it running in WinUAE. Then you need to look at the file transfer section: http://classicwb.abime.net/classicweb/filetransfer.htm This describes ways of getting the System.zip file across to the Amiga. Basically what you're doing is zipping up the contents of the System.HDF file from within WinUAE, then copying that across to your Amiga hard drive and finally unzipping it Amiga side. An ADF disk image is provided to unzip the file once you've got it over to the Amiga if you wish to use it, but you will need to write that image file back to a real Amiga disk first as described in the links above. It really is all about putting the time in to learn the various methods available to accomplish this.

08 February 2009, 13:48	#4
leytond MY 1200 IS AWSOME Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: doncaster england Age: 56 Posts: 700	it says i need to have that winuae thing to create the zip file, winuae wont work on my pc my amiga has a cd dvd rom on it so transfering files aint a problem, its creating the files that i cant do . how do i get to the contents of the system.hdf file. ?? the question that i have is , how do i get the system.zip file , without winuae.

08 February 2009, 13:51	#5
leytond MY 1200 IS AWSOME Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: doncaster england Age: 56 Posts: 700	Installing from scratch 1. Boot your Workbench install disk and use HDtoolbox to setup your hard drive, naming the first partition DH0: 2. Boot the disk again and format DH0: , calling it whatever you wish. 3. Copy the "System.zip" file onto your first hard drive partition, device DH0: 4. Write "Real_Amiga_Install.ADF" back to a normal Amiga 3.5" disk. Details of how to achieve this can be found in the file transfer section. 5. Boot from the install disk created in 4) and follow the on-screen instructions. it says in 3: coppy the system.zip file but it dosnt say how to get the system.zip file. HELP.

08 February 2009, 13:59	#7
Bloodwych Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: I'm behind you! Posts: 3,763	It does say - but it can only be created from within WinUAE or an Amiga emulator, which unfortunately for you doesn't work for whatever reason? Another option may be ADFVIEW, but I've never used it or know a link for it. It may be able to copy the files from System.HDF to another location without using WinUAE. I'm afraid I don't provide the Sytem.zip files myself, so it's just a case of seeing if someone else has a solution that doesn't involve using an emulator.

08 February 2009, 14:14	#8
leytond MY 1200 IS AWSOME Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: doncaster england Age: 56 Posts: 700	is there any way of getting this winuae thing to run, it says that rom files are missing, i dont have the facility to link my amiga to the pc to dump the rom, ive been at this for 2 weaks now surley there is a way cant i just burn the files to cd and run it on the amiga . ?? is there someware i can just get the zip file from,???

08 February 2009, 14:16	#9
DH Global Moderator Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Might as well be WORK :( Age: 57 Posts: 4,110	ADF Opus will do the job, if it work on Vista. http://sourceforge.net/projects/adfopus/ You'll be able to burn all the files to a cd, then transfer them to your miggy's HDD and you should be up and running

08 February 2009, 14:21	#11
leytond MY 1200 IS AWSOME Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: doncaster england Age: 56 Posts: 700	if i had hair id pull it all out,

08 February 2009, 14:24	#12
leytond MY 1200 IS AWSOME Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: doncaster england Age: 56 Posts: 700	how dose this adfopus work,

08 February 2009, 14:26	#13
leytond MY 1200 IS AWSOME Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: doncaster england Age: 56 Posts: 700	chears guys but ill give this up as a bad job, its all above my head this,

08 February 2009, 15:01	#15
DH Global Moderator Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Might as well be WORK :( Age: 57 Posts: 4,110	Make a folder and name it ClassicWB on your desktop When you run ADF Opus there should be a window already open called Windows Directory. Search for your folder within this and open it. now, select open and load in the system.hdf from ClassicWB into adf opus, select all the files and drag and drop them all into the other window. Close ADF Opus and open the folder on your Desktop that you created earlier and you should see all the ClassicWB files that you copied using ADF Opus Now you can use Vista to write all the files to a CD. Put the CD in you miggy's drive and transfer them all to your HDD. Done!

08 February 2009, 18:18	#16
DH Global Moderator Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Might as well be WORK :( Age: 57 Posts: 4,110	I wonder if it would be worth extracting the files from the System.hdf using ADF Opus for Leytond, Zipping them and uploading them all to Magix ftp for him to download, unzip and write to his CD then transplant the damn things onto his miggy's HDD. Or will this just confuse Leytond even more 'cause he'll have to download and use filezilla to access Magix ftp.

08 February 2009, 18:28	#18
TCD HOL/FTP busy bee Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 46 Posts: 31,837	Well he can download stuff from the FTP without filezilla...

08 February 2009, 18:28	#19
DoogUK Doogster Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Dorset Posts: 1,069	I've just uploaded the system.zip for him

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