18.15717 Upgrade

[edd_jedi]

Since upgrading to the latest version, roughly 90% of my games no longer work. Some games crash the computer, some get to the intro then hang, others show a black screen but F10 etc will quit WHDLoad back to Workbench. I can't see any pattern to why some games work and most don't.

I have tried re-installing but still the same. Anybody else experienced this? Is it possible to downgrade?

[edd_jedi]

OK I rolled back to 17 and still the same. I recently installed AmiTCP and this seems to be the culprit, as if I remove the attached lines from User-Startup WHDLoad works normally again.

Can anybody see anything in this AmiTCP startup sequence that would affect WHDLoad, or maybe just a syntax error in there somewhere? AmiTCP does work, if I remove this code I obviously lose network access.

[Arnie]

Apparently WHD 18.1 uses the Internet to check for updates (slaves or itself, I'm not sure)

[edd_jedi]

Thanks I hadn't noticed that, looks like you're right. Not the only one having problems:

http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=77118&page=2

It says in the first post it can be disabled via config - how?

[Arnie]

Have a look in S:WHDLoad.prefs or S:WHDLoad-Startup

[Retroplay]

Add NoNetwork in S\WHDLoad.prefs.

[edd_jedi]

Originally Posted by Retroplay

Add NoNetwork in S\WHDLoad.prefs.

Thanks, tried that but no joy. Here it says:

http://whdload.de/docs/en/opt.html#NoNetwork

NoNetwork/S

What does the /S mean?

[Arnie]

/S is a switch, maybe yes or no? or just NoNetwork without the /S

[edd_jedi]

Yeah tried both, with /S it won't launch and without it it doesn't seem to do anything.

[Arnie]

Maybe just NoNetWork

This is from the Amigados Manual

ALL/S, QUIET/S, CLONE/S, DATES/S, NOPRO/S, COM/S, and NOREQ/S indicate that the keywords act as switches. If the keyword is present in the line, the option is used

[Retro-Nerd]

edit: Ah Ok, seems right if something like AmiTCP is installed.

[edd_jedi]

Originally Posted by Retro-Nerd

The slave update internet check can't be the problem. Or my games would crash too with v18.1.

Have you tried many games though? At first I thought mine was fine too, it was only when I tried to launch a particular game I noticed the problem. For example I am trying to play Aladdin, with the network physically disconnected it works, with it plugged in it doesn't (hangs on black screen.) So it is definitely some kind of network connection causing the crash.

[Retro-Nerd]

Read my edit. NoNetwork in s:WHDload.prefs should work. It's indeed a global tooltype you can set. Have you removed the ";" in front of the line?

[edd_jedi]

I have also tried adding NONETWORK as a tooltype to the game icon, still no luck.

[Retro-Nerd]

Have you removed the ";" in front of the line?

Checked this too?

[edd_jedi]

Yes NoNetwork is not an example in the prefs file so there is no ;. I have tried setting a few of the other prefs eg splash screen delay and that is working fine, so my prefs are being read. Just looks like the NoNetwork command either doesn't work, or isn't the issue. But it's 100% network related.

[Retro-Nerd]

Mh, it's is already in the whdload prefs file. No need to set it manually.

;
; global configuration file for WHDLoad
; searched as "S:whdload.prefs"
;
; CLI-Arguments and ToolTypes will overwrite these !
;

;ButtonWait ;wait for button pressed (slave must support this)
;ChipNoCache ;disable cachebility of Chip-Memory
;ConfigDelay=400 ;wait to select options in splash window (1/50 seconds)
;CoreDumpPath=T: ;path for coredump files
;DebugKey=$5b ;rawkey code to quit with coredump (debug)
;ExecuteStartup=Execute S:WHDLoad-Startup ;command to execute on WHDLoad startup
;ExecuteCleanup=Execute S:WHDLoad-Cleanup ;command to execute on WHDLoad exit
;Expert ;selects expert mode
;FreezeKey=$5d ;rawkey code to enter HrtMon/TK
;FullChip ;save/restore complete chip memory
;LogBuffer=$40000 ;buffer size for logging facility
;MMU ;use MMU (for 68030)
;NoAutoVec ;ignore unwanted autovector interrupts
;NoFilter ;disable audio filter
;NoFlushMem ;do not flush memory
;NoMemReverse ;do not allocate memory reverse
;NoNetwork ;do not connect to the internet
;NoWriteCache ;disable the disk write cache
;NTSC ;force NTSC viedo mode
;PAL ;force PAL viedo mode
;Proxy=proxyhost:3128 ;use this HTTP-proxy, [userassword@]hostname[ort]
;QuitKey=$5a ;rawkey code to quit
;ReadDelay=150 ;wait after reading from disk (1/50 seconds)
;RestartKey=$5c ;rawkey code to restart
;SavePath=SYS:WHDSaves ;base directory for all saves
;ShowRegs=SYS:Utilities/MuchMore W WL=80 WT=80 WW=582 WH=700 ;command for Show Regs
;SplashDelay=200 ;time to display splash window (1/50 seconds)
;WriteDelay=150 ;wait after saving something to disk (1/50 seconds)

[edd_jedi]

That's interesting, it is not in mine (in fact that prefs file has quite a few commands not in mine.) I downloaded 18.1 from whdload just today so can't imagine I have an old version.

[edd_jedi]

I just ran the installer again and noticed that at no point does it copy anything to S, so where do the prefs files come from if not from the installation process?

[Retro-Nerd]

It's already there in the S: subfolder of the archive. The installer won't create it. What installer version in C: do you use? v44.10 should work without problems.