Megaball

Gordon · 31 March 2014, 21:14

Megaball - Another great game without a WHDLOAD slave, so one would be much appreciated if someone finds the time.

Thank you.

StingRay · 08 April 2014, 15:26

A great game indeed which now has a WHDLoad patch too.

Supamax · 08 April 2014, 17:54

Great!

Probably wrong thread but:
will there be in the future some sort of savestates (save & load) in WHDLoad?
It would be MUCH appreciated.
For me, it's the most important upgrade to be added

.

I cannot, for example, think of playing Shadow of the Beast without the possibility of "put it on hold".

Another great upgrade would be an integrated Action Replay.

Gordon · 08 April 2014, 19:41

Thank you Stingray for this however I am getting error when trying to run the AGA version. It says exception 0 ('$0) at $18 occured.

I did the workbench thing ok and used linked images. Any ideas what it could be?

amigoun · 08 April 2014, 19:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supamax

will there be in the future some sort of savestates (save & load) in WHDLoad?

Not yet possible in whdload, but you can use software freezer hrtmon with whdload to do that. Not works always, but for some games it is useable.
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jbenam · 08 April 2014, 21:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supamax

Great!

Probably wrong thread but:
will there be in the future some sort of savestates (save & load) in WHDLoad?
It would be MUCH appreciated.
For me, it's the most important upgrade to be added

.

I cannot, for example, think of playing Shadow of the Beast without the possibility of "put it on hold".

Another great upgrade would be an integrated Action Replay.

Same here, mate! Let's just believe that someday the almighty Wepl will make that happen

With that feature my Amiga life would be complete

I haven't got as much free time as when I was 8, so save-states are a necessity for me to complete all the longer-than-one-hour games!

StingRay · 09 April 2014, 09:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supamax

will there be in the future some sort of savestates (save & load) in WHDLoad?

Wepl was/is working on that but it is not a trivial thing to do (would be MUCH easier on the Atari ST, yep!

)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supamax

Another great upgrade would be an integrated Action Replay.

That's not something which belongs to WHDLoad at all. You can start a software freezer before running WHDLoad, it supports a few known ones (HRT-Mon, Thrill Kill).

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon

Thank you Stingray for this however I am getting error when trying to run the AGA version. It says exception 0 ('$0) at $18 occured.

I did the workbench thing ok and used linked images. Any ideas what it could be?

That shouldn't happen, I suspect a problem with the datatypes. Upload your installed game to the zone and I'll have a look.

Gordon · 09 April 2014, 09:52

Thanks StingRay I have uploaded it. Its probably something my end because it works on my win-uae set up but when copied to real amiga it doesnt like it(tried two real amigas). ECS version works perfectly.

Supamax · 09 April 2014, 19:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by StingRay

That's not something which belongs to WHDLoad at all. You can start a software freezer before running WHDLoad, it supports a few known ones (HRT-Mon, Thrill Kill).

I'll test them

.
My doubt is: if these programs need a keypress (or a keypress combination) to 'activate' themselves from within a game, I suppose there will be problems if the game inhibits them in some way...

amigoun · 09 April 2014, 21:15

Theres a FREEZEKEY tooltype which can be used to activate software monitor within WHDLoad, you dont even need the NMI button for this purpose.

Supamax · 10 April 2014, 00:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by amigoun

Theres a FREEZEKEY tooltype which can be used to activate software monitor within WHDLoad, you dont even need the NMI button for this purpose.

Where can I find info about it?

Quote:

Originally Posted by StingRay

You can start a software freezer before running WHDLoad, it supports a few known ones (HRT-Mon, Thrill Kill).

I've never heard about Thrill Kill

But... using HRT-Mon or Thrill Kill will I be able to save the actual state to disk/hard disk? (and resume later)

StingRay · 12 April 2014, 13:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon

Thanks StingRay I have uploaded it. Its probably something my end because it works on my win-uae set up but when copied to real amiga it doesnt like it(tried two real amigas). ECS version works perfectly.

This was actually caused by a (quite annoying!) bug in Asm-Pro which I used to assemble the final slave. I have fixed it, you can find the updated patch on the WHDLoad site, the AGA version should now work properly.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supamax

Where can I find info about it?

In the WHDLoad documentation of course.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supamax

I've never heard about Thrill Kill

It's quite a nice Action Replay like monitor which was coded by Ferox back in the mid/end 90s. The full version wasn't available to many people back in the day but the demo version has been around for a long time.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supamax

But... using HRT-Mon or Thrill Kill will I be able to save the actual state to disk/hard disk? (and resume later)

I doubt this as the state of write only custom registers can't easily be stored without additional hardware or an MMU. You can try it but don't expect anything at all.

Retroplay · 12 April 2014, 13:57

The AGA version just loads to a black screen now using 1.01 slave.
I can quit back to workbench, so it's not a full crash.
1.00 loaded and worked.

StingRay · 12 April 2014, 14:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retroplay

The AGA version just loads to a black screen now using 1.01 slave.
I can quit back to workbench, so it's not a full crash.

Works fine on my 4060 but I'll check.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retroplay

1.00 loaded and worked.

Not on the real deal, the problem does not occur when using WinUAE.

Retroplay · 12 April 2014, 14:12

Here's my A1200 specs just in case.
A1200 rev 1.D4, ACA1232/33, Kick 3.1 + custom softkicked 3.1 (+ BoingBag2 updates + Toni Wilens SCSI.device 43.45).

Gordon · 12 April 2014, 16:21

Sorry Sting, bad news. Same problem as Retroplay, black screen.

amigoun · 12 April 2014, 17:33

1.0 worked for me (on WUAE) but I dont hear ingame music, just sounds.

Gordon · 12 April 2014, 18:35

With a bit of trial and error I managed to get 1.1 kind of working by copying the system configuration file from the workbench dev folder into the megaball\data\dev folder. It prompts once for the env folder, i cancel and it boots fine. Without it I get a back screen. Maybe you can try too retroplay to confirm to Sting?

Works beutifully once started apart from no music. Just sounds.

(test on real Amiga)

Retroplay · 12 April 2014, 20:24

Confirmed.
Copying system-configuration from DH0: Devs to /Data/Devs does the trick.
Cancel ENV request and game starts.

I do get music at the "Font found", "click to continue" etc screen though.

TjLaZer · 14 January 2015, 08:41

this been fixed yet?

31 March 2014, 21:14	#1
Gordon Settler Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Serf City Posts: 1,760	Megaball Megaball - Another great game without a WHDLOAD slave, so one would be much appreciated if someone finds the time. Thank you.

12 April 2014, 20:24	#19
Retroplay Lemon Curry ? Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Denmark Age: 49 Posts: 4,080	Confirmed. Copying system-configuration from DH0: Devs to /Data/Devs does the trick. Cancel ENV request and game starts. I do get music at the "Font found", "click to continue" etc screen though. Last edited by Retroplay; 12 April 2014 at 20:25. Reason: Stupid smiley

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08 April 2014, 15:26	#2
StingRay move.l #$c0ff33,throat Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Berlin/Joymoney Posts: 6,863	A great game indeed which now has a WHDLoad patch too.

08 April 2014, 17:54	#3
Supamax Da Digger :) Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Monza, Italy Posts: 2,822	Great! Probably wrong thread but: will there be in the future some sort of savestates (save & load) in WHDLoad? It would be MUCH appreciated. For me, it's the most important upgrade to be added . I cannot, for example, think of playing Shadow of the Beast without the possibility of "put it on hold". Another great upgrade would be an integrated Action Replay.

08 April 2014, 19:41	#4
Gordon Settler Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Serf City Posts: 1,760	Thank you Stingray for this however I am getting error when trying to run the AGA version. It says exception 0 ('$0) at $18 occured. I did the workbench thing ok and used linked images. Any ideas what it could be?

09 April 2014, 09:52	#8
Gordon Settler Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Serf City Posts: 1,760	Thanks StingRay I have uploaded it. Its probably something my end because it works on my win-uae set up but when copied to real amiga it doesnt like it(tried two real amigas). ECS version works perfectly.

09 April 2014, 21:15	#10
amigoun Registered User Join Date: May 2010 Location: Czech Rep Posts: 599	Theres a FREEZEKEY tooltype which can be used to activate software monitor within WHDLoad, you dont even need the NMI button for this purpose.

12 April 2014, 13:57	#13
Retroplay Lemon Curry ? Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Denmark Age: 49 Posts: 4,080	The AGA version just loads to a black screen now using 1.01 slave. I can quit back to workbench, so it's not a full crash. 1.00 loaded and worked.

12 April 2014, 14:12	#15
Retroplay Lemon Curry ? Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Denmark Age: 49 Posts: 4,080	Here's my A1200 specs just in case. A1200 rev 1.D4, ACA1232/33, Kick 3.1 + custom softkicked 3.1 (+ BoingBag2 updates + Toni Wilens SCSI.device 43.45).

12 April 2014, 16:21	#16
Gordon Settler Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Serf City Posts: 1,760	Sorry Sting, bad news. Same problem as Retroplay, black screen.

12 April 2014, 17:33	#17
amigoun Registered User Join Date: May 2010 Location: Czech Rep Posts: 599	1.0 worked for me (on WUAE) but I dont hear ingame music, just sounds.

12 April 2014, 18:35	#18
Gordon Settler Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Serf City Posts: 1,760	With a bit of trial and error I managed to get 1.1 kind of working by copying the system configuration file from the workbench dev folder into the megaball\data\dev folder. It prompts once for the env folder, i cancel and it boots fine. Without it I get a back screen. Maybe you can try too retroplay to confirm to Sting? Works beutifully once started apart from no music. Just sounds. (test on real Amiga)

14 January 2015, 08:41	#20
TjLaZer Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Tacoma, WA USA Age: 52 Posts: 1,915	this been fixed yet?

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