Batman Returns: Bad Dump?

hipoonios · 17 July 2010, 18:21

Hi, I have the Batman Returns game and I just tested the SPS release. But I can't go past the logo screen. The cracked versions works.

Tested it with latest Winuae with all kind of settings with no luck.

Retro-Nerd · 17 July 2010, 18:33

I can't find a key to skip the intro, but after the intro you can start the SPS with joybutton 1.

hipoonios · 17 July 2010, 19:01

That's weird. Both me and a friend have the same problem. So the ipf I have must be broken. Maybe it's than early release which has been replaced?

Retro-Nerd · 17 July 2010, 19:02

I have no clue. Both disk images are dated with 07.07.2003. Tested with the latest WinUAE beta, A500 quickstart (most common).

hipoonios · 17 July 2010, 19:14

Same here. Tested with latest Winuae with A500 quickstart config.

But my files are older. They are dated 24-12-1996.

BatmanReturns_Disk1of2.ipf MD5: B2D6CAD26FB2A31698A90E1C228F9FBD
BatmanReturns_Disk2of2.ipf MD5: D2AD773526F489CF5B08534BE20A32CC

So I think the files have been replaced.

Retro-Nerd · 17 July 2010, 19:18

My files have the same MD5 checksum. It's problably me who have overwritten the original date.

TCD · 17 July 2010, 19:34

Filedate : 24-12-1996, WinUAE 2.2.1 beta 2, A500 most common quickstart
Works. I get the 'Press fire to start' message after the intro like Retro. On which logo does it hang hipoonios?

Retro-Nerd · 17 July 2010, 19:35

Yes, you have to watch this intro with text. The whole intro takes 2-3 (with logos). Select the WinUAE warp mode to fast-forward it.

TCD · 17 July 2010, 19:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retro-Nerd

Select the WinUAE warp mode to fast-forward it.

Who doesn't

(end + pause btw)

hipoonios · 17 July 2010, 19:45

Ok I lied before

I modified the default A500 config. I used default A500 config but I changed floppy speed to 800%. And guess what. That was the problem.

This is the first time that a game does not work with 800x speed. But lame that the ADF versions work with 800%.

TCD · 17 July 2010, 19:45

Tsk tsk tsk

Retro-Nerd · 17 July 2010, 19:46

Use Turbo or 100%, nothing else.

TCD · 17 July 2010, 20:09

Strangely enough I found that 800% worked for more games than Turbo when I still used it. Now I only use 100% and warp through the load and boring bits

Toni Wilen · 17 July 2010, 21:06

non-100% is guaranteed to break all bit cell density based protections (and perhaps some others too)

IFW · 17 July 2010, 23:26

1, The very first game preserved as ipf, Wizard Warz is dated 2002.12.23
Anything older is certainly a modified date. You can query the real file creation date stored in any IPF file using the access API, maybe WinUAE displays it too.
2, Batman Returns has Copylock using varied cell density. It won't pass the protection check if the emulation speed is not 100% accurate. What a game does when the protection fails depends on the game. Some crashes, some misbehaves, some pretends to work for a while...

dlfrsilver · 18 July 2010, 00:53

hum.... If i remember well, the IPF loading speed is stuck to normal.

Can you confirm Toni ?

Toni Wilen · 18 July 2010, 09:18

No, only turbo floppy speed is incompatible with non-adf disk images.

s2325 · 18 July 2010, 20:06

Thank you for longplay of this game.

17 July 2010, 18:21	#1
hipoonios Amiga Hardcore Gamer Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Sweden Age: 46 Posts: 1,207	Batman Returns: Bad Dump? Hi, I have the Batman Returns game and I just tested the SPS release. But I can't go past the logo screen. The cracked versions works. Tested it with latest Winuae with all kind of settings with no luck.

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17 July 2010, 18:33	#2
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,438	I can't find a key to skip the intro, but after the intro you can start the SPS with joybutton 1.

17 July 2010, 19:01	#3
hipoonios Amiga Hardcore Gamer Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Sweden Age: 46 Posts: 1,207	That's weird. Both me and a friend have the same problem. So the ipf I have must be broken. Maybe it's than early release which has been replaced?

17 July 2010, 19:02	#4
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,438	I have no clue. Both disk images are dated with 07.07.2003. Tested with the latest WinUAE beta, A500 quickstart (most common).

17 July 2010, 19:14	#5
hipoonios Amiga Hardcore Gamer Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Sweden Age: 46 Posts: 1,207	Same here. Tested with latest Winuae with A500 quickstart config. But my files are older. They are dated 24-12-1996. BatmanReturns_Disk1of2.ipf MD5: B2D6CAD26FB2A31698A90E1C228F9FBD BatmanReturns_Disk2of2.ipf MD5: D2AD773526F489CF5B08534BE20A32CC So I think the files have been replaced.

17 July 2010, 19:18	#6
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,438	My files have the same MD5 checksum. It's problably me who have overwritten the original date.

17 July 2010, 19:34	#7
TCD HOL/FTP busy bee Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 46 Posts: 31,535	Filedate : 24-12-1996, WinUAE 2.2.1 beta 2, A500 most common quickstart Works. I get the 'Press fire to start' message after the intro like Retro. On which logo does it hang hipoonios?

17 July 2010, 19:35	#8
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,438	Yes, you have to watch this intro with text. The whole intro takes 2-3 (with logos). Select the WinUAE warp mode to fast-forward it.

17 July 2010, 19:45	#10
hipoonios Amiga Hardcore Gamer Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Sweden Age: 46 Posts: 1,207	Ok I lied before I modified the default A500 config. I used default A500 config but I changed floppy speed to 800%. And guess what. That was the problem. This is the first time that a game does not work with 800x speed. But lame that the ADF versions work with 800%.

17 July 2010, 19:46	#12
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,438	Use Turbo or 100%, nothing else.

17 July 2010, 20:09	#13
TCD HOL/FTP busy bee Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 46 Posts: 31,535	Strangely enough I found that 800% worked for more games than Turbo when I still used it. Now I only use 100% and warp through the load and boring bits

17 July 2010, 21:06	#14
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,507	non-100% is guaranteed to break all bit cell density based protections (and perhaps some others too)

17 July 2010, 23:26	#15
IFW Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: ... Age: 52 Posts: 1,838	1, The very first game preserved as ipf, Wizard Warz is dated 2002.12.23 Anything older is certainly a modified date. You can query the real file creation date stored in any IPF file using the access API, maybe WinUAE displays it too. 2, Batman Returns has Copylock using varied cell density. It won't pass the protection check if the emulation speed is not 100% accurate. What a game does when the protection fails depends on the game. Some crashes, some misbehaves, some pretends to work for a while...

18 July 2010, 00:53	#16
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-SPS France Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 46 Posts: 10,413	hum.... If i remember well, the IPF loading speed is stuck to normal. Can you confirm Toni ?

18 July 2010, 09:18	#17
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,507	No, only turbo floppy speed is incompatible with non-adf disk images.

18 July 2010, 20:06	#18
s2325 Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Gargore Age: 43 Posts: 17,789	Thank you for longplay of this game.

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