Am I alone in liking Turrican I more than II? - Page 2

john4p · 28 July 2009, 10:32

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Originally Posted by s2325

I thought it was for moving enemies[...]

Well, the ants are moving enemies.

s2325 · 28 July 2009, 10:34

Yes, but I never tried to destroy stationary cannons with mines and I never used them after first level.

john4p · 28 July 2009, 10:47

Ah, okay.

Note that you don't really need them against the cannons most of the time as they are easily destroyed by one shot of any of your standard weapons. If there are multiple cannons on a platform above or beyond you it's still a good idea to use them.

(But the main purpose is against those nasty ants which take an insane amount of hits of your standard weapons.)

drHirudo · 28 July 2009, 11:29

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Originally Posted by AB Positive

First off, of course T2 is an awesome game, no debate. But, for some reason I find myself going back more to T1.

I'm new to the Amiga scene admittedly so I don't know if that plays a factor but on lemon amiga and HoL there's usually a concensus that T2 was the 'better game'.

Am I odd?

The best Turrican game on Amiga could be Turrican 3. But then T3 is very short, even if it is with the best music, graphics, level design, colour usage, gameplay etc. That leaves us with Turrican 2 which is the best Turrican on Amiga - very good level design, space ship levels, big and clever bosses. Turrican 1 is very good, but the graphic is not enough touched and leaves the feeling of unpolished Turrican game if you have played Turrican 2 and Turrican 3.
Of course I am a fan of the three games and completed all of them several times without the use of any cheats.
The love of Turrican made me complete the Turrican games on SNES (Super Turrican and Super Turrican 2) and their clones on Mega Drive (Turrican, Mega Turrican and Universal Soldier). Also the C64 versions - Turrican 1, Turrican 2 and Turrican 3 (Several remakes by different groups). I also played a lot Turrican and Turrican II on the Sinclair, Turrican and Turrican 2 on the Amstrad, Turrican on the Game Gear, Turrican 1 and 2 on the Atari ST, Turrican on the Gameboy, Super Turrican on the NES.
The best Turrican game is the Super Turrican 2 on the SNES.
For the record I want to say that I played all these games (with the different hardware versions) on real Amigas (Amiga 500, Amiga 1200, Amiga 4000 and AmigaOne with WHDLoad, JST, real floppies disks and emulators {WarpSNES, Arnold, ASp, ZXAM, Speculator, Hatari, DGen, GenesisPlus, VisualBoyAdvance, AmiNES, CoolNES, AmiMasterGear, DarkNES, VICE, MagiC64, Frodo and lot more emulators}).
Am I Turrican fan?
For sure I am Amiga fan.

TCD · 28 July 2009, 11:45

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Originally Posted by drHirudo

But then T3 is very short, even if it is with the best music, graphics, level design, colour usage, gameplay etc.

I bet many people will disagree with most of your points (of course including me

).

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Originally Posted by drHirudo

...and their clones on Mega Drive (Turrican, Mega Turrican and Universal Soldier).

Actually Mega Turrican is the original and Turrican 3 is the conversion (might explain why it's not as good as 2...). The SNES versions are somehow 'unique' and miss a lot of the Turrican 'flavour'. So Mega Turrican isn't a clone of them (and also not the other two).

Muzkat · 28 July 2009, 12:05

No. I like Turrican better then T2.

Turrican 2 was a complete disappointment for me. I consider it a vastly inferior sequel.

First of all, it is too similar to the first one, so that it doesn't feel like a sequel, but a recycling of the prequel. I also don't like any of the new weapons, and I find the music tracks on T1 to be much more catchy and memorable. And the new graphics and animations don't do it for me - the earth in the first level looks like spew, for example.

I have yet to play T3.

Predseda · 28 July 2009, 12:18

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Originally Posted by Muzkat

Turrican 2 was a complete disappointment for me.

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT?!

TCD · 28 July 2009, 12:29

^ What Predseda said

I mean I can understand if you like T1 a tad more than T2, but 'vastly inferior'...

FOL · 28 July 2009, 12:51

Both are equally as good, but like others I prefer 1.

Mad-Matt · 28 July 2009, 13:17

I prefure 2 over 1 as 2 just seems have everything t1 has and more of it. Enjoyed both on c64 before Amiga versions. Had to cheat though to finish both games

I like T3 too , but more because its super easy with many collectably lives in every level, I can complete the game every time on hard difficulty. I load the games up more for music nowerdays though.

Old Fool · 28 July 2009, 13:57

Both are great games (so is the third part). The first levels in T1 are better than in T2 but the more you play the games T2 wins *slightly* the match. I don't like the colour palette in T2 on some levels, it's too "candy" for me. Level design in T2 has more imagination and variation. Soundtrack is perfect on both games but T2 has better sound quality and longer songs. T2 has also better sound effects and special effects, more weapons etc. It's bit like comparing Terminator (T1) compared to Terminator 2 (T2). T2 has more stylish special effects but the brutal story in T1 has its own strong moments. I would give Turrican 1 four stars and Turrican 2 four and a half stars out of five.

Terminator 1 I would give five stars out of five and Terminator 2 four stars out of five.

Muzkat · 28 July 2009, 14:02

Nope, sorry guys - I stand by what I said. I just felt so let down when I saw that T2 was just an inferior rehash, with nothing new that I liked.

T1 all the way, in my opinion.

Shoonay · 28 July 2009, 14:08

Call me a loonay but I prefer the 3rd one the most...

TCD · 28 July 2009, 14:13

Loonay!

There is this hook... *twiches* the hook... *twitches again* oh, please don't remind me...

Paul_s · 28 July 2009, 14:28

Yes, you are very much alone in a darkened room where there is not a sound and you could probably hear a pin drop

coze · 28 July 2009, 14:42

no way she's in there with muzkat

be careful AB, if I were you I'ld grow a fondness for the T2 as soon as possible

DH · 28 July 2009, 15:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by AB Positive

First off, of course T2 is an awesome game, no debate. But, for some reason I find myself going back more to T1.

Strange, so do I. I think it's probably because of nostalgia reasons

Quote:

Originally Posted by AB Positive

I'm new to the Amiga scene admittedly so I don't know if that plays a factor but on lemon amiga and HoL there's usually a concensus that T2 was the 'better game'.

It was

Quote:

Originally Posted by AB Positive

Am I odd?

Nope! 'Cause that would make me odd too and I know I'm not

blade002 · 28 July 2009, 15:29

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Originally Posted by Muzkat

Nope, sorry guys - I stand by what I said. I just felt so let down when I saw that T2 was just an inferior rehash, with nothing new that I liked.

T1 all the way, in my opinion.

OH Nuuurse!!!!

Retro1234 · 28 July 2009, 15:40

Is it just me or do those colours make you feel Sick

In the Zone is T2 with a Blue background if anyone else cant take it.

TCD · 28 July 2009, 15:45

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Originally Posted by Boo Boo

Is it just me or do those colours make you feel Sick

I hope it's just you

That's just a beautiful picture and the version you uploaded is an ebil abomination

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28 July 2009, 10:34	#22
s2325 Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Gargore Age: 43 Posts: 17,789	Yes, but I never tried to destroy stationary cannons with mines and I never used them after first level.

28 July 2009, 10:47	#23
john4p Competition Moderator Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Germany Posts: 4,756	Ah, okay. Note that you don't really need them against the cannons most of the time as they are easily destroyed by one shot of any of your standard weapons. If there are multiple cannons on a platform above or beyond you it's still a good idea to use them. (But the main purpose is against those nasty ants which take an insane amount of hits of your standard weapons.)

28 July 2009, 12:05	#26
Muzkat Into the Wonderful Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Earthrealm Age: 42 Posts: 1,426	No. I like Turrican better then T2. Turrican 2 was a complete disappointment for me. I consider it a vastly inferior sequel. First of all, it is too similar to the first one, so that it doesn't feel like a sequel, but a recycling of the prequel. I also don't like any of the new weapons, and I find the music tracks on T1 to be much more catchy and memorable. And the new graphics and animations don't do it for me - the earth in the first level looks like spew, for example. I have yet to play T3.

28 July 2009, 12:29	#28
TCD HOL/FTP busy bee Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 46 Posts: 31,522	^ What Predseda said I mean I can understand if you like T1 a tad more than T2, but 'vastly inferior'...

28 July 2009, 12:51	#29
FOL PSPUAE DEV Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Wales / UK Age: 45 Posts: 5,999	Both are equally as good, but like others I prefer 1.

28 July 2009, 13:17	#30
Mad-Matt Longplayer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Lincoln / UK Age: 44 Posts: 1,846	I prefure 2 over 1 as 2 just seems have everything t1 has and more of it. Enjoyed both on c64 before Amiga versions. Had to cheat though to finish both games I like T3 too , but more because its super easy with many collectably lives in every level, I can complete the game every time on hard difficulty. I load the games up more for music nowerdays though.

28 July 2009, 13:57	#31
Old Fool Zone Friend Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Tampere Age: 40 Posts: 600	Both are great games (so is the third part). The first levels in T1 are better than in T2 but the more you play the games T2 wins slightly the match. I don't like the colour palette in T2 on some levels, it's too "candy" for me. Level design in T2 has more imagination and variation. Soundtrack is perfect on both games but T2 has better sound quality and longer songs. T2 has also better sound effects and special effects, more weapons etc. It's bit like comparing Terminator (T1) compared to Terminator 2 (T2). T2 has more stylish special effects but the brutal story in T1 has its own strong moments. I would give Turrican 1 four stars and Turrican 2 four and a half stars out of five. Terminator 1 I would give five stars out of five and Terminator 2 four stars out of five.

28 July 2009, 14:02	#32
Muzkat Into the Wonderful Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Earthrealm Age: 42 Posts: 1,426	Nope, sorry guys - I stand by what I said. I just felt so let down when I saw that T2 was just an inferior rehash, with nothing new that I liked. T1 all the way, in my opinion.

28 July 2009, 14:08	#33
Shoonay Global Caturator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Porando Age: 43 Posts: 6,105	Call me a loonay but I prefer the 3rd one the most...

28 July 2009, 14:13	#34
TCD HOL/FTP busy bee Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 46 Posts: 31,522	Loonay! There is this hook... twiches the hook... twitches again oh, please don't remind me...

28 July 2009, 14:28	#35
Paul_s Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Amigaville Age: 46 Posts: 3,334	Yes, you are very much alone in a darkened room where there is not a sound and you could probably hear a pin drop

28 July 2009, 14:42	#36
coze hastala vista winny vista Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: mt fuji Age: 46 Posts: 1,335	no way she's in there with muzkat be careful AB, if I were you I'ld grow a fondness for the T2 as soon as possible

28 July 2009, 15:40	#39
Retro1234 Phone Homer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: 5150 Posts: 5,773	Is it just me or do those colours make you feel Sick In the Zone is T2 with a Blue background if anyone else cant take it.

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