23 October 2018, 07:19 | #61 |
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What is the official stance if Hyperion regarding AROS again?
Was it "most likely illegal"? Once Hyperion have a few more nickles to throw around, I would be totally unsurprised to see them waste it on taking down AROS and MorphOS as well. It's really the only "skill" Hyperion has inhouse, "battling" in court. |
23 October 2018, 07:43 | #62 |
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I have never bought anything that Hyperion offers, so it seems I get by doing my Amiga hobby without them..
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23 October 2018, 17:14 | #63 |
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As AROS is still moving along, I'm not sure it matters. ;-)
It's one thing to stop people selling something. It's another to try to stop an open source OS from existing. If they thought they could stop it, they would have. Now, that doesn't mean they might not try from time to time. Companies do that. (There are some that will tell you that legally they are required to show effort in order not to risk losing the rights they supposedly have.) But I think they know they can't stop AROS. Best they could do is probably take down a website or two. That's never stopped availability on the internet. ;-) Kind of like how it is now impossible to find a Super Mario ROM since Nintendo flared. (hint: it isn't) MorphOS, being another commercial product is a different ball of wax. If they want to keep selling their product, dealing with companies like those is part of what they have to do... I'm not saying they are good companies. They are businesses and do bad things. And this is an awkward business situation to start with. That said, there are also some positives, and the negatives can't stop me enjoying my Amiga. AmigaOS 3.1.4 is out there. Enough of us have it now, that even if someone was somehow stopped from selling it (which I don't think will happen long term), it will still be available for people. (In fact, if it is "blocked," I would think that might increase its spread actually. ;-) |
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Bad Company <Insert Cloanto, Hyperion, Amino, etc here> can do what they want. We will STILL be able to enjoy our Amigas. We're fans of the best computer and get to enjoy that regardless of businesses doing businessy stuff. It's a win-win for us. |
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How did 'best computer' attract shameless companies as any of those, that is real question here.
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Devs that have seen AmigaOS source code aren't allowed to work on reverse-engineered works like AROS and MorphOS legally.
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When the old sources leaked some time ago they threatened everyone who would look at. Best is to stay far away from it... Those who officially could work with the sources had to sign a NDA anyway which forbits them to work on anything competing, and that are certainly AROS and MorphOS. And if someone would ignore that and f.e. contribute to AROS they could try to use it against AROS then. So best is to both stay away from the sources and Hyperion as long as you want to keep your freedom. That is how I understood what Thomas Richter f.e. wrote. |
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26 October 2018, 11:28 | #76 |
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Like all clauses, an NDA is subject to rules.
Generally speaking, an NDA that would prevent a worker from finding another job would be considered null and void! Nobody should be afraid just because an NDA has been signed. The courts are full of voided NDA because they were abusive! Inquiring is the only word here... The most important is to have cash in in the bank account, to feed the family and to pay the bills... |
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There are also speculations that even the contracts Hyperion is based on would fail at court but to see if that is the case or not someone has to challenge these contracts. The same is true for developers and the NDAs, perhaps Hyperion would loose but in any case it means trouble but Amiga is just hobby and no money to earn, I assume if developers loose interest they drop the platform as a whole instead of risking court cases. |
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In my view, it is therefore very important that the community itself steps up and holds the self-acclaimed rights holders feet to the fire when it comes to legal issues - especially Hyperion, who threaten people at every cross road, yet again and again have been proven to speak mostly BS. Sadly, there are way too many apologists among us, who rather see that nobody stirs the boat as it sinks. |
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