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Old 27 January 2019, 08:14   #21
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With the price of Amiga hardware, it is not hard...
Then include convenience, no room for another setup, cables everywhere...
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Dealing with real HW can be a bit of a hassle though and can be a money pit if you're not careful. :-)
The cables, the searching for rare parts, isn't that kind of the fun of it? The fact that everyone kind of has their own unique upgrade-style, I rarely go to a meet-up and find two A500's the same.

Yeah ok, the money-pit part is not so much fun...

Oh, and relating to the OP - A500 is your cheapest entry point, and you can get loads of brand new upgrade cards for it now - anything thing from a simple RAM + IDE to a Vampire V500. A1200 is more expensive, but has class and distinction, it's the machine on my desk that I'm proudest of.

Emu is an excellent way in though - cheap and versatile. Just not...well...real
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Old 27 January 2019, 08:23   #22
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Emulation is not cheap .... is totally free
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Old 28 January 2019, 13:53   #23
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Emulation is not cheap .... is totally free
Emulation has its own price, depending how do you like to emulate.
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I totally disagree Anubis

Where's the price in using WinUAE ?

The computer and the internet connection ?

But those things are necessary anyway

What kind of costs you are thinking about ?
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What kind of costs you are thinking about ?
Money to Cloanto?
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Old 28 January 2019, 16:35   #26
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Money to Cloanto?
Unless you got your computer for free, then you definitely had some pre-made investment.

There is no such a thing as free lunch... I heard that here somewhere...
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Old 28 January 2019, 17:17   #27
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But if you bought that computer for any other purpose, then it's not a cost for emulation. Pretty much any computing device these days can do reasonable emulation of classic Amiga setups.

Besides, free computers are easy to come by. I'm at a stage now where I have a number of Core2 machines that I'm almost embarrassed to try and sell, so they'll most likely end up with a charity outfit unless I can find someone local who wants one. They're well capable of emulating even high-end Amigas, and they're free.
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Old 28 January 2019, 19:29   #28
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Now, if you look back at question in this forum, it is not emulaiton on old computer, but on Raspberry Pi, and those are cheap, but not free.

I have bunch of old hardware, including 6-7 laptops, run WinUAE on most of them, but would love to find one that would work with LAKKA.

With Lakka you can turn computer to something like RetroPie.

Mostly issues I had had to do with drivers for old hardware for UNIX environment.
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Old 29 January 2019, 00:35   #29
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The OP said nothing about Pi, or any other platform for emulation. You brought it up, and others have since discussed emulation on other platforms, including those with essentially free hardware.
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Old 29 January 2019, 02:01   #30
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Seriously?

I never said OP, just that after my recommendation he said this...

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Quite like the idea of messing about with a Raspberry Pi device. Although I must admit I don`t know much about them.

What exactly do I need to set a RP up to run Amiga software ?

The RP device - version 3b ?
Some form of case for the RP
Some cut down version of Linux (Do the RP come with no OS ?) ?
Another OS that sits on top of Linux (retropie) ?
2 x Joysticks/controllers ?
Some form of wireless dongo for joystick/controllers ?

Would I need anything else or is the above a comprehensive shopping list ?

One last question about RP devices. Could I use the same device to emulate SNES or C64 ? If so can you have these all on the devices at the same time ?

I know I`ve asked a lot

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No problem here, I was responding to your post:

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Unless you got your computer for free, then you definitely had some pre-made investment.
Which, given the conversation, seemed more like a general statement than a specific Pi-related one.
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Old 29 January 2019, 11:45   #32
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I'm trying to picture an Amiga enthusiast who's hobby has never cost them anything...
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I'm trying to picture an Amiga enthusiast who's hobby has never cost them anything...
Well, I know some who have financed their Amiga hobby fully just by buying and selling Amiga stuff (usually by buying cheap untested lots and selling cleaned bundles or individual items). If you have a wife and family, it may be hard to convince them that you should spend money on outdated stuff, so swapping/reselling items could be the way around that.
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I'm trying to picture an Amiga enthusiast who's hobby has never cost them anything...
My parents paid for most of it I've spent some pocket money on it though.
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Old 29 January 2019, 16:12   #35
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Well, I know some who have financed their Amiga hobby fully just by buying and selling Amiga stuff (usually by buying cheap untested lots and selling cleaned bundles or individual items). If you have a wife and family, it may be hard to convince them that you should spend money on outdated stuff, so swapping/reselling items could be the way around that.
Yes, and this is exactly how expensive stuff gets even more expensive.
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My little foray into the Amiga hardware realm (Amiga 600 system) has been a bit of money pit - but relatively speaking, a rather minor one - fun little sideline of reliving a tiny segment of my past (even though it didn't involve Amiga per se).

And just to mention : not using the A600 for games primarily (the Amiga had quite a substantial application library across wide spectrum of uses), but there are some pretty cool & fun games that work just fine - and bumping the RAM up to 2 MB opens up opinions considerably.
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Old 30 January 2019, 06:08   #37
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Well it fast goes from "which Amiga to buy" to "Which Emulator to use" and "on which hardware"?

I'm already rocking all the following:

Old P4 or possibly i3 PC running ICAROS for reasons I'm yet to figure out other than the insane fast boot time

i5 Desktop running Amiga Forever 8 DVD edition on Windows 10

i5 Laptop experimenting with WinUAE and FS_UAE and soon launchbox with a view to use this on my travels if I dont instead use......

ASUS TF101 Android Tablet with Keyboard dock running UAE4ARM
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I don't think thread gone off topic

Indeed original question was about a machine to buy

But what about the suggest is "no machine, just use emulation" ?

I don't see nothing strange here, it's just an opinion
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Old 30 January 2019, 07:48   #39
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I don't think thread gone off topic

Indeed original question was about a machine to buy

But what about the suggest is "no machine, just use emulation" ?

I don't see nothing strange here, it's just an opinion
I agree but to be fair, once emulation was suggested, it was the OP that followed that track with more ideas and questions, prompting further discussion about emulation.

I think the answer is simple

1) Buy the machine you had as a child
2) Buy an A1200 as "the best Amiga"
3) Play with Emulators as well

It's all 3 or nothing imho
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hardware vs emulated is somewhat of a false dichotomy - for example, using a virtual machine to install/update a CF card to be used in physical machine can be quite handy

and emulation is a nice way to experiment with various setups that would be impractical or even impossible with a given physical machine
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