A1200 3.1 degrade

Washac · 02 August 2002, 11:32

I have found that since upgrading my 1200 to 3.1 less old games work when I use relokick, does anybody have an answer to this?

I upgraded sometime in the past, when I found this problem, just thought about it again this morning.

Amiga1992 · 02 August 2002, 16:38

Have you tried using TUDE instead, with a complete Kickstart image? (Relokick uses a 256KB one)

Washac · 05 August 2002, 12:04

Quote:

Originally posted by Akira
Have you tried using TUDE instead, with a complete Kickstart image? (Relokick uses a 256KB one)

No, is the answer to that one, Okay I can download Tude from Aminet, where do I get the complete kickstart image?

RetroMan · 05 August 2002, 12:08

Get the 512KB Kickstart from Relokick, load it into a HEX Editor and cut the last 256KB off

The Kick 1.3 is doubled, so the last 256KB is just a mirror of the first 256KB

Washac · 05 August 2002, 12:17

Quote:

Originally posted by RetroMan
Get the 512KB Kickstart from Relokick, load it into a HEX Editor and cut the last 256KB off The Kick 1.3 is doubled, so the last 256KB is just a mirror of the first 256KB

Thanks for the help

Amiga1992 · 05 August 2002, 19:27

But the kickstart that comes with Relokick lacks quite some features that an original one hs! Try loading a WB with that kickstart, and as soon as you open a window the Amiga freezes. Seems like it doesnt have all of the Intuition functions in there! (Perhaps Galahad has more info about this, I think this rom had his name on it)

Everything works just fine if you use a normal 512K version of 1.3. You can download it from Amiga emu sites

RetroMan · 05 August 2002, 19:37

Hmmm, that´s new to me

I once compared the Kick 1.3 on the ReloKick Disk and it had the same CRC as the Kick 1.3 I´ve read out of my A500

Galahad/FLT · 17 August 2002, 10:46

Was never meant for Dos applications.

It was only ever meant for non dos games. space in the kickstart rom was at a premium, and I had to fit my code in there in some VERY tight spaces.

So for dos stuff, forget my version, for non-dos, go for mine.

Amiga1992 · 17 August 2002, 19:18

Thanks for clarifying that! That's just the way I use it. for NDOS games I use your ROM, because it's much smaller.

Actually most DOS games I tried do work, the ones that die are those that need a workbench to open. As soon as you double click on an icon the Amiga freezes.

derSammler · 18 August 2002, 13:26

Quote:

Originally posted by Akira
Thanks for clarifying that! That's just the way I use it. for NDOS games I use your ROM, because it's much smaller.

It's not smaller. All Kickstart 1.x ROMs are 256KB small. The 512KB ones are overdumped.

Amiga1992 · 18 August 2002, 19:14

Ok!

02 August 2002, 11:32	#1
Washac Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: UK Southern End Posts: 704	A1200 3.1 degrade I have found that since upgrading my 1200 to 3.1 less old games work when I use relokick, does anybody have an answer to this? I upgraded sometime in the past, when I found this problem, just thought about it again this morning.

17 August 2002, 10:46	#8
Galahad/FLT Going nowhere Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: United Kingdom Age: 50 Posts: 8,986	Relokick 1.4a Was never meant for Dos applications. It was only ever meant for non dos games. space in the kickstart rom was at a premium, and I had to fit my code in there in some VERY tight spaces. So for dos stuff, forget my version, for non-dos, go for mine.

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02 August 2002, 16:38	#2
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	Have you tried using TUDE instead, with a complete Kickstart image? (Relokick uses a 256KB one)

05 August 2002, 12:08	#4
RetroMan Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Germany Age: 51 Posts: 3,704	Get the 512KB Kickstart from Relokick, load it into a HEX Editor and cut the last 256KB off The Kick 1.3 is doubled, so the last 256KB is just a mirror of the first 256KB

05 August 2002, 19:27	#6
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	But the kickstart that comes with Relokick lacks quite some features that an original one hs! Try loading a WB with that kickstart, and as soon as you open a window the Amiga freezes. Seems like it doesnt have all of the Intuition functions in there! (Perhaps Galahad has more info about this, I think this rom had his name on it) Everything works just fine if you use a normal 512K version of 1.3. You can download it from Amiga emu sites

05 August 2002, 19:37	#7
RetroMan Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Germany Age: 51 Posts: 3,704	Hmmm, that´s new to me I once compared the Kick 1.3 on the ReloKick Disk and it had the same CRC as the Kick 1.3 I´ve read out of my A500

17 August 2002, 19:18	#9
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	Thanks for clarifying that! That's just the way I use it. for NDOS games I use your ROM, because it's much smaller. Actually most DOS games I tried do work, the ones that die are those that need a workbench to open. As soon as you double click on an icon the Amiga freezes.

18 August 2002, 19:14	#11
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	Ok!

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