Powerpc

alex68 · 30 January 2017, 21:08

The powerpc can be considered motorola family? Is it true that motorola had problems reaching more than 75 mhz? Regards

Amiga1992 · 30 January 2017, 21:21

There is no "Motorola family", there's the 68k family and then there's the PowerPC family.

Lord Aga · 30 January 2017, 21:35

http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=81719

grelbfarlk · 31 January 2017, 00:33

Yes the Powerpc is a CPU that Motorola made for a while, they decided they weren't so good at making CPUs any more so they spun off most of their CPU business. No.

Kin Hell · 31 January 2017, 10:22

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Originally Posted by alex68

The powerpc can be considered motorola family? Is it true that motorola had problems reaching more than 75 mhz? Regards

Actually, PowerPC was know as AIM, created by an alliance formed from several Companies, Apple, IBM & Motorola.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PowerPC

alex68 · 31 January 2017, 14:02

I have seen powerpc chips with the motorola logo and others with the ibm logo? Someone can tell me what chips made motorola part of the family 68k and 88? Greetings and thanks

Kin Hell · 31 January 2017, 14:49

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Originally Posted by Kin Hell

Actually, PowerPC was know as AIM, created by an alliance formed from several Companies, Apple, IBM & Motorola.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PowerPC

Quote:

Originally Posted by alex68

I have seen powerpc chips with the motorola logo and others with the ibm logo? Someone can tell me what chips made motorola part of the family 68k and 88? Greetings and thanks

AIM was Apple, IBM & Motorola coming together as an Alliance to bring RISC based Technology to personal computers.

Just because it has a Motorola Logo on it does not mean Motorola Manufactured them. - High chance they never did. - Probably made under Licence by another Semi-Conductor Manufacturer.

68k was 68000, 68010, 68020, 68030, 68040 & 68060 which are CISC based https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorola_68000

88K was RISC based & I can only offer wiki link with no personal experience, sorry. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorola_88000

idrougge · 31 January 2017, 15:04

Don't be silly. What other manufacturer would have the process necessary to make a cutting edge CPU? Intel? AMD?

Kin Hell · 31 January 2017, 15:13

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Originally Posted by idrougge

Don't be silly. What other manufacturer would have the process necessary to make a cutting edge CPU? Intel? AMD?

Design is one thing & manufacture is another.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorola

Go have a read.

idrougge · 31 January 2017, 15:51

Read what exactly?

Freescale had, at the time of the NXP merger, at least three fabs of their own. In Motorola times, there were even more.

alex68 · 31 January 2017, 22:23

Is there a motorola chip that exceeds 100 mhz?thanks

prowler · 31 January 2017, 22:41

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Originally Posted by alex68

Is there a motorola chip that exceeds 100 mhz?thanks

You must have tried every possible variation of this vague question in this forum since you joined us last year.

Unfortunately, it's not possible for anyone here to give you an answer which will be both valid and helpful unless you tell us exactly what it is you wish to know.

Kin Hell · 01 February 2017, 14:27

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Originally Posted by prowler

You must have tried every possible variation of this vague question in this forum since you joined us last year.

Unfortunately, it's not possible for anyone here to give you an answer which will be both valid and helpful unless you tell us exactly what it is you wish to know.

Perhaps a language barrier exists

The OP has made no comment to the answers already posted.

alex68 · 01 February 2017, 16:52

Hello, I just wanted to know if Motorola was able to exceed 100 mhz in its chips, since it has always been said that for intel it was not a problem? Anyone know of a motorola chip of 100 or more mhz?thanks for listering community

Daedalus · 01 February 2017, 16:55

Yes, yes they did. Many years ago in fact. Their PowerPC and Coldfire ranges both go well above 100MHz.

SilentBob · 01 February 2017, 17:02

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Originally Posted by alex68

Hello, I just wanted to know if Motorola was able to exceed 100 mhz in its chips, since it has always been said that for intel it was not a problem? Anyone know of a motorola chip of 100 or more mhz?thanks for listering community

If you mean the standard 68000-series, then 75 MHz is the max stock speed for the 060. (Although AFAIK it can overclock to 100 MHz on some Atari accelerator boards). The ColdFire is a 68k derivative and reaches above that, but is not officially considered part of that series.

Samurai_Crow · 01 February 2017, 21:27

If Motorola/Freescale hadn't cut the 680x0 series down to the Coldfire instruction set, they would still be on par with the clock speed of Intel.

Nowadays if you want efficiency in a 680x0 series chip, you need an Apollo softcore called the 68080 running on an Altera FPGA.

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30 January 2017, 21:21	#2
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,644	There is no "Motorola family", there's the 68k family and then there's the PowerPC family.

30 January 2017, 21:35	#3
Lord Aga MI clan prevails Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Belgrade, Serbia Posts: 1,443	http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=81719

31 January 2017, 00:33	#4
grelbfarlk Registered User Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: USA Posts: 2,902	Yes the Powerpc is a CPU that Motorola made for a while, they decided they weren't so good at making CPUs any more so they spun off most of their CPU business. No.

31 January 2017, 14:02	#6
alex68 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Belgium Posts: 82	I have seen powerpc chips with the motorola logo and others with the ibm logo? Someone can tell me what chips made motorola part of the family 68k and 88? Greetings and thanks

31 January 2017, 15:04	#8
idrougge Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Stockholm Posts: 4,332	Don't be silly. What other manufacturer would have the process necessary to make a cutting edge CPU? Intel? AMD?

31 January 2017, 15:51	#10
idrougge Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Stockholm Posts: 4,332	Read what exactly? Freescale had, at the time of the NXP merger, at least three fabs of their own. In Motorola times, there were even more.

31 January 2017, 22:23	#11
alex68 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Belgium Posts: 82	Is there a motorola chip that exceeds 100 mhz?thanks

01 February 2017, 16:52	#14
alex68 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Belgium Posts: 82	Hello, I just wanted to know if Motorola was able to exceed 100 mhz in its chips, since it has always been said that for intel it was not a problem? Anyone know of a motorola chip of 100 or more mhz?thanks for listering community

01 February 2017, 16:55	#15
Daedalus Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Dublin, then Glasgow Posts: 6,334	Yes, yes they did. Many years ago in fact. Their PowerPC and Coldfire ranges both go well above 100MHz.

01 February 2017, 21:27	#17
Samurai_Crow Total Chaos forever! Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Waterville, MN, USA Age: 49 Posts: 2,186	If Motorola/Freescale hadn't cut the 680x0 series down to the Coldfire instruction set, they would still be on par with the clock speed of Intel. Nowadays if you want efficiency in a 680x0 series chip, you need an Apollo softcore called the 68080 running on an Altera FPGA.

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