Downfall - diary of a game... - Page 12

Graham Humphrey · 20 March 2012, 00:06

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Originally Posted by Predseda

I found another bug - sometimes hero lands in non-still anim frame, or just finishes his anim cycle in other frame than "still" (45, 46).

Thanks, I'll have a look for this.

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My actual hiscore 5054.

About 1300 better than me

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There should be something like: "Yes, you will fall faster for 10 secs, BUT (you will get extra 500pts or so...)

Maybe not 500 points but I take the idea onboard. Thanks, I'll think of something.

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Originally Posted by mihcael

Also, power-ups seem to only take effect when you hit a platform. Is this intended?

It does? What ones? I just played it now and got the weight power-up, worked fine. Can't say I've noticed this but I could just have missed it.

mihcael · 20 March 2012, 00:39

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Originally Posted by Graham Humphrey

...It does? What ones? I just played it now and got the weight power-up, worked fine. Can't say I've noticed this but I could just have missed it.

think i noticed it with the wings, will check again.

Predseda · 20 March 2012, 08:41

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Originally Posted by mihcael

6 is only possible if you leap at the last second and guess the right direction... it will be dropped. What did you think of level 5?

It can be memorized so I think it can be passed. It is also evil, though.

mihcael · 20 March 2012, 11:35

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Originally Posted by Predseda

It can be memorized so I think it can be passed. It is also evil, though.

That was my initial intention. Graham said he deosnt want levels based solely on memory, and the way the levels are sequenced makes that sort of level almost impossible to anticipate and therefore complete.

If people who have played can rate the levels 3,4,5,6 out of 10 for difficulty it will help to build more balanced levels. Any comments welcome.

Predseda · 20 March 2012, 12:34

I like levels 3 and 4 most, they are challenging. Currently i like platform design of levels 3, though

roberthazelby · 20 March 2012, 14:42

Keep the updates coming. This thread has become essential reading for me.

One suggestion - when the music being composed, could it only use a maximum of three sound channels? This will then leave one channel free for sound effects.

Many classic Amiga games had their ingame music spoiled by having half the tune temporarily vanish when a sound effect played.

Reynolds · 20 March 2012, 19:21

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Originally Posted by roberthazelby

Keep the updates coming. This thread has become essential reading for me.

One suggestion - when the music being composed, could it only use a maximum of three sound channels? This will then leave one channel free for sound effects.

Many classic Amiga games had their ingame music spoiled by having half the tune temporarily vanish when a sound effect played.

I believe it depends on the nr of different effects at the same time and speed of playback. I mean if there are continous sounds of shooting in a game (in general, not strictly in a case like this) and you want to play others as well, even using 3 channels is more than critical. I believe this is why for example in the top-down Alien Breeds there are no music, just an ambient generator kind of noise, so the 3 other channels can be used for shooting, roars, and warning sounds...

Also, in this game it cannot be a real barrier for a better atmosphere. We'll see, I think

s2325 · 20 March 2012, 19:34

There was no problem using NoisePlayer even with 4 channels module, I can hear all sounds. But I think if someone use chip module where tracks are really busy some sounds may be skipped.

Predseda · 20 March 2012, 19:36

Yes, depends on the music routine. Bad example: Lotus Esprit turbo challenge (1) - when you smash na obstacle, one channel is stopped for few seconds and it is really annoying. Good example: Turricans

Graham Humphrey · 20 March 2012, 19:46

I did have a think about how many channels to use for the music and I decided to go for four anyway because (a) there aren't many sound effects and (b) what there is are quite short and sharp anyway. In addition, you'll be able to switch off sound effects and/or music at any point during the game if you like. I did take into account the problem Robert mentioned but I think to only use three channels in these circumstances would be a waste.

Predseda · 20 March 2012, 19:48

indeed. you can try it and use one of the millions existing modules as a placeholder in meantime I think.

Graham Humphrey · 20 March 2012, 23:54

A couple of miscellaneous requests now.

I'd quite like some nice icons for the game. Let's face it, the default Blitz icon is a bit dull. If I could have a 'normal' icon, a MagicWB icon and a NewIcon, I could include them in the archive and the player could choose which one they wanted. So if someone could take a bit of time to draw some that'd be great

Also... I'd like some sort of nice development team name too, so we can have a nice logo displayed at the start

I'm having a bit of trouble coming up with a good name though so any suggestions? Obviously any future games would use this name too so it has to be a decent one

In terms of the game, tonight I've started developing the highscore table and routines. It's mostly working so far, there's one little quirk I need to iron out and I need to implement a load/save system but it's gone pretty smoothly.

mihcael · 21 March 2012, 01:55

About the time i was working with Hungry Horace making Syman i came up with this logo design (edit - removed?) which i titled BoingTick, so thats my development team name suggestion.

Anakirob · 21 March 2012, 03:53

You do realise that both of those pieces of imagery are registered trademarks?

mihcael · 21 March 2012, 04:03

What are you saying? They are only shown in that picture to show the process i used to create the boingtick?

Predseda · 21 March 2012, 09:38

I agree with any name, but my suggestion is it shouldnt be anything 'mighty', 'ancient' or 'glorious' as these will always be little cute games (I think), not any serious dungeons or adventures. So the name should rather be funny as well as the logo.

Graham Humphrey · 21 March 2012, 22:48

I don't know if I really want a 'funny' name. Not that it should be deadly serious of course. But I have one or two game ideas in my head that go somewhat beyond 'cute little games'

In other news: Highscore table now fully working, complete with loading and saving

Another box ticked...

prowler · 21 March 2012, 22:59

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Originally Posted by Graham Humphrey

I don't know if I really want a 'funny' name. Not that it should be deadly serious of course.

Well, based on what's happening so far, I would have to say "The WIP Team" has a certain ring to it!

Lonewolf10 · 21 March 2012, 23:07

Before I settled on Digital Dalmatian, the other contender was Binary Nation.

Regards,
Lonewolf10

Graham Humphrey · 21 March 2012, 23:44

Binary Nation, eh? Or, perhaps, Binary Nations. Yes, that's not too bad I think. Thanks for that, I'll consider that one.

I was going to opt for Divide By Zero (in tribute to a couple of weeks back, when I spent a decent amount of time on a Saturday night coding the title screen routine, forgot to save it for the only time ever, and accidentally did a divide by zero sum somewhere and the whole thing fell over) but that was already taken years ago

Prowler: Touché!

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mihcael Zone Friend Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Aussie Posts: 1,144	About the time i was working with Hungry Horace making Syman i came up with this logo design (edit - removed?) which i titled BoingTick, so thats my development team name suggestion. Last edited by mihcael; 21 March 2012 at 04:31.

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mihcael Zone Friend Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Aussie Posts: 1,144	What are you saying? They are only shown in that picture to show the process i used to create the boingtick? Last edited by mihcael; 21 March 2012 at 04:10. Reason: more info

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20 March 2012, 12:34	#225
Predseda Puttymoon inhabitant Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tromaville Age: 46 Posts: 7,539	I like levels 3 and 4 most, they are challenging. Currently i like platform design of levels 3, though

20 March 2012, 14:42	#226
roberthazelby Amiga user since 1990 Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Bristol, England Age: 48 Posts: 364	Keep the updates coming. This thread has become essential reading for me. One suggestion - when the music being composed, could it only use a maximum of three sound channels? This will then leave one channel free for sound effects. Many classic Amiga games had their ingame music spoiled by having half the tune temporarily vanish when a sound effect played.

20 March 2012, 19:34	#228
s2325 Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Gargore Age: 43 Posts: 17,789	There was no problem using NoisePlayer even with 4 channels module, I can hear all sounds. But I think if someone use chip module where tracks are really busy some sounds may be skipped.

20 March 2012, 19:36	#229
Predseda Puttymoon inhabitant Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tromaville Age: 46 Posts: 7,539	Yes, depends on the music routine. Bad example: Lotus Esprit turbo challenge (1) - when you smash na obstacle, one channel is stopped for few seconds and it is really annoying. Good example: Turricans

20 March 2012, 19:46	#230
Graham Humphrey Moderator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Norwich, Norfolk, UK Age: 37 Posts: 11,167	I did have a think about how many channels to use for the music and I decided to go for four anyway because (a) there aren't many sound effects and (b) what there is are quite short and sharp anyway. In addition, you'll be able to switch off sound effects and/or music at any point during the game if you like. I did take into account the problem Robert mentioned but I think to only use three channels in these circumstances would be a waste.

20 March 2012, 19:48	#231
Predseda Puttymoon inhabitant Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tromaville Age: 46 Posts: 7,539	indeed. you can try it and use one of the millions existing modules as a placeholder in meantime I think.

20 March 2012, 23:54	#232
Graham Humphrey Moderator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Norwich, Norfolk, UK Age: 37 Posts: 11,167	A couple of miscellaneous requests now. I'd quite like some nice icons for the game. Let's face it, the default Blitz icon is a bit dull. If I could have a 'normal' icon, a MagicWB icon and a NewIcon, I could include them in the archive and the player could choose which one they wanted. So if someone could take a bit of time to draw some that'd be great Also... I'd like some sort of nice development team name too, so we can have a nice logo displayed at the start I'm having a bit of trouble coming up with a good name though so any suggestions? Obviously any future games would use this name too so it has to be a decent one In terms of the game, tonight I've started developing the highscore table and routines. It's mostly working so far, there's one little quirk I need to iron out and I need to implement a load/save system but it's gone pretty smoothly.

21 March 2012, 03:53	#234
Anakirob Unregistered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Tasmania Age: 42 Posts: 893	You do realise that both of those pieces of imagery are registered trademarks?

21 March 2012, 09:38	#236
Predseda Puttymoon inhabitant Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tromaville Age: 46 Posts: 7,539	I agree with any name, but my suggestion is it shouldnt be anything 'mighty', 'ancient' or 'glorious' as these will always be little cute games (I think), not any serious dungeons or adventures. So the name should rather be funny as well as the logo.

21 March 2012, 22:48	#237
Graham Humphrey Moderator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Norwich, Norfolk, UK Age: 37 Posts: 11,167	I don't know if I really want a 'funny' name. Not that it should be deadly serious of course. But I have one or two game ideas in my head that go somewhat beyond 'cute little games' In other news: Highscore table now fully working, complete with loading and saving Another box ticked...

21 March 2012, 23:07	#239
Lonewolf10 AMOS Extensions Developer Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: near Cambridge, UK Age: 44 Posts: 1,924	Before I settled on Digital Dalmatian, the other contender was Binary Nation. Regards, Lonewolf10

21 March 2012, 23:44	#240
Graham Humphrey Moderator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Norwich, Norfolk, UK Age: 37 Posts: 11,167	Binary Nation, eh? Or, perhaps, Binary Nations. Yes, that's not too bad I think. Thanks for that, I'll consider that one. I was going to opt for Divide By Zero (in tribute to a couple of weeks back, when I spent a decent amount of time on a Saturday night coding the title screen routine, forgot to save it for the only time ever, and accidentally did a divide by zero sum somewhere and the whole thing fell over) but that was already taken years ago Prowler: Touché!

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