Amiga Clone Natami - Planned For Summer 2008 - Page 22

NathanTolbert · 16 February 2011, 19:43

I submitted an e-mail to the info@natami.net in regards to my inability to sign up. I only did this last night so I'm not too worried about it. I will give it a couple days, but if I don't get a response by this Sunday, then I will take you up on your offer of finding out what I did wrong or if my request just got lost. It's not a big worry. All the conversations over there are so technical that I feel rather lost on many occasions. My questions are much more simplistic and base. Thank you by the way for explaining how it will be possible to reach a speed of 100MHz on the FPGA for the N68050. It's very interesting.

matthey · 17 February 2011, 01:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by NathanTolbert

I can indeed search and read the forums but I cannot do more than that. Are you in the Kansas City area Matthey? I'm just curious as there aren't many Amiga users left around here.

I'm close. I'm in Baldwin City which is a few minutes south of Lawrence but I grew up in Independence, MO. There's still a few Amiga users around K.C. Good luck getting on the Natami board.

@Samurai Crow
Pipelining and code fusion make the N68050 faster (more powerful technically) WITHOUT increasing the clock speed don't they? The same could be said for larger caches, old instructions that take less cycles (compared with 68060), new instructions and addressing modes that require less instructions, and superscaler execution in the case of the N68070. They all make the processor more powerful at the same clock speed. If everything works as planned, the N68050 should be able to outperform the superscaler 68060 at the same clock speed. The N68070 could easily be twice as fast or more at the same clock speed.

NathanTolbert · 17 February 2011, 06:01

I grew up in Topeka and Lawrence. I know exactly where Baldwin City is. I think everything will be fixed so I can join the Natami board, it just may take a little while. It's very cool to see someone close to me that uses Amiga computers. Did you buy your Amiga's in Topeka? When I was a kid there was a computer store downtown in Topeka where my dad and I went when we bought Amiga stuff because it was the only store we knew that sold anything for them in Topeka. All the mall stores sold PC and Atari only if I recall.

matthey · 17 February 2011, 15:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by NathanTolbert

I grew up in Topeka and Lawrence. I know exactly where Baldwin City is. I think everything will be fixed so I can join the Natami board, it just may take a little while. It's very cool to see someone close to me that uses Amiga computers. Did you buy your Amiga's in Topeka? When I was a kid there was a computer store downtown in Topeka where my dad and I went when we bought Amiga stuff because it was the only store we knew that sold anything for them in Topeka. All the mall stores sold PC and Atari only if I recall.

Thoroughbred pops into my head as the name of an old Amiga shop. I don't remember if that was the one in Topeka or Overland Park. The only Amiga I bought new was a 3000 in Overland Park.

amigarobbo · 30 April 2011, 17:03

http://www.natami.net/knowledge.php?b=1¬e=37264

http://www.natami.net/knowledge.php?b=1¬e=37341

http://www.natami.net/knowledge.php?...37433&z=FS8Gad

Methanoid · 01 May 2011, 11:15

I wanna know WHEN and HOW MUCH... otherwise Replay will gobble all my retro spend money!! How much do I need to put aside for Natami MX board etc?

Samurai_Crow · 02 May 2011, 00:55

@Methanoid

Production has been set back by the earthquake and tsunami in Japan. The team is looking at their options for now but it looks like it will out maybe at the end of this year unless we can figure out some other plan.

8bitbubsy · 02 May 2011, 13:30

"Planned for Summer 2008"

Methanoid · 03 May 2011, 00:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by 8bitbubsy

"Planned for Summer 2008"

I resisted that.. but seriously.. how much too?

AmigaDave · 03 May 2011, 02:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Samurai_Crow

@Methanoid

Production has been set back by the earthquake and tsunami in Japan. The team is looking at their options for now but it looks like it will out maybe at the end of this year unless we can figure out some other plan.

I hope it will be available by October so orders can be made at the AmiWest Show, but more important than that, I hope that one of the Natami team members will attend the AmiWest Show with a working Natami system to demo it to everyone. Has there been any discussion between Natami team members about attending the AmiWest Show this year? If not, please bring up the topic and try to convince someone to go. I would love to meet you there this year.

gilgamesh · 14 June 2011, 09:57

There are daily updates with photos in the Natami forums now.

Natami Day #1
Natami Day #2
Natami Day #3
Natami Day #4
Natami Day #5
Natami Day #6
Natami Day #7
Natami Day #8
Natami Day #9
Natami Day #10
Natami Day #11
Natami Day #12
Natami Day #21
Natami a New Day

frikilokooo · 14 June 2011, 10:52

My dad says that Natami sucks

29 June 2011, 20:03

Please Tell me that this is not a Dream !
It´s really true ?
Where can I buy it?
I´ll buy thousands....

gilgamesh · 29 June 2011, 20:43

It is beta at the moment and a release date is still to be announced. Looks like you'll have to wait some more. I wouldn't hold my breath.

http://www.natami.net/

moijk · 29 June 2011, 22:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by gilgamesh

It is beta at the moment and a release date is still to be announced. Looks like you'll have to wait some more. I wouldn't hold my breath.

We are amiga users, waiting for new hardware is our virtue.

Lord Aga · 30 June 2011, 12:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by rubenscarrilho

Please Tell me that this is not a Dream !
It´s really true ?
Where can I buy it?
I´ll buy thousands....

It is true. The first (more expensive) batch of boards with real 68060 CPUs will most likely be ready by the end of this year. We will have to wait a bit more for the cheaper version with the N68050 softcores though.

Check out the NatAmi website and forums for daily news.

Cheers !

gibs · 30 June 2011, 12:54

Will it be possible to order those one (the expensive) without the 68060 (in case we already own one) ?

Lord Aga · 30 June 2011, 18:51

I can't speak for the NatAmi team, but I don't think it would be possible (my personal opinion).
They use the MC68060FE processor (SMD dark ceramic EC version), and it is highly unlikely that you have the same version. You probably have the PGA ceramic version.

Anyway feel free to browse the NatAmi forum. A lot of interesting techy stuff there

moijk · 30 June 2011, 20:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amir

I can't speak for the NatAmi team, but I don't think it would be possible (my personal opinion).
They use the MC68060FE processor (SMD dark ceramic EC version), and it is highly unlikely that you have the same version. You probably have the PGA ceramic version.

Anyway feel free to browse the NatAmi forum. A lot of interesting techy stuff there

They have two different processor boards. apparently you can choose when ordering. (slowest have mmu)

Lord Aga · 01 July 2011, 10:07

I think those are prototypes only. Or a selected few for devs. I know there has been a lot of talk about MMU version and stuff, but I don't think they will go to production with two different boards. That would be illogical (captain

)
After all, the "old" 060 can USUALLY go, what, 60, 70...5 MHz ? The "new" ones are on 110-120 MHz right now. May turn out even faster...

Don't get me wrong, I am generally for as many choices as one can have. I would support more variants, even cheap-o boards with 50ish MHz 68030

But from a small production run point of view, I think they will go for the most standardized solution.

Buuuuuut

as yet another twist, the boards will come fully documented. And having the synczorro slot, nothing is preventing the third party boards, hacks or workaround solutions for any type of CPU. Maybe even 68000 degrader boards

14 June 2011, 09:57	#431
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16 February 2011, 19:43	#421
NathanTolbert Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Olathe, Kansas Posts: 42	I submitted an e-mail to the info@natami.net in regards to my inability to sign up. I only did this last night so I'm not too worried about it. I will give it a couple days, but if I don't get a response by this Sunday, then I will take you up on your offer of finding out what I did wrong or if my request just got lost. It's not a big worry. All the conversations over there are so technical that I feel rather lost on many occasions. My questions are much more simplistic and base. Thank you by the way for explaining how it will be possible to reach a speed of 100MHz on the FPGA for the N68050. It's very interesting.

17 February 2011, 06:01	#423
NathanTolbert Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Olathe, Kansas Posts: 42	I grew up in Topeka and Lawrence. I know exactly where Baldwin City is. I think everything will be fixed so I can join the Natami board, it just may take a little while. It's very cool to see someone close to me that uses Amiga computers. Did you buy your Amiga's in Topeka? When I was a kid there was a computer store downtown in Topeka where my dad and I went when we bought Amiga stuff because it was the only store we knew that sold anything for them in Topeka. All the mall stores sold PC and Atari only if I recall.

30 April 2011, 17:03	#425
amigarobbo Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: UK Posts: 181	http://www.natami.net/knowledge.php?b=1¬e=37264 http://www.natami.net/knowledge.php?b=1¬e=37341 http://www.natami.net/knowledge.php?...37433&z=FS8Gad

01 May 2011, 11:15	#426
Methanoid Retired Quartex Sysop Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Roman Verulamium Age: 58 Posts: 1,873	I wanna know WHEN and HOW MUCH... otherwise Replay will gobble all my retro spend money!! How much do I need to put aside for Natami MX board etc?

02 May 2011, 00:55	#427
Samurai_Crow Total Chaos forever! Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Waterville, MN, USA Age: 49 Posts: 2,186	@Methanoid Production has been set back by the earthquake and tsunami in Japan. The team is looking at their options for now but it looks like it will out maybe at the end of this year unless we can figure out some other plan.

02 May 2011, 13:30	#428
8bitbubsy Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Norway Posts: 1,710	"Planned for Summer 2008"

14 June 2011, 10:52	#432
frikilokooo Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Mallorca,Spain. Age: 44 Posts: 1,154	My dad says that Natami sucks

29 June 2011, 20:03	#433
rubenscarrilho Posts: n/a	Please Tell me that this is not a Dream ! It´s really true ? Where can I buy it? I´ll buy thousands....

29 June 2011, 20:43	#434
gilgamesh Linux snob Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Monkey Island Posts: 997	It is beta at the moment and a release date is still to be announced. Looks like you'll have to wait some more. I wouldn't hold my breath. http://www.natami.net/

30 June 2011, 12:54	#437
gibs Banned Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: france Posts: 932	Will it be possible to order those one (the expensive) without the 68060 (in case we already own one) ?

30 June 2011, 18:51	#438
Lord Aga MI clan prevails Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Belgrade, Serbia Posts: 1,443	I can't speak for the NatAmi team, but I don't think it would be possible (my personal opinion). They use the MC68060FE processor (SMD dark ceramic EC version), and it is highly unlikely that you have the same version. You probably have the PGA ceramic version. Anyway feel free to browse the NatAmi forum. A lot of interesting techy stuff there

01 July 2011, 10:07	#440
Lord Aga MI clan prevails Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Belgrade, Serbia Posts: 1,443	I think those are prototypes only. Or a selected few for devs. I know there has been a lot of talk about MMU version and stuff, but I don't think they will go to production with two different boards. That would be illogical (captain ) After all, the "old" 060 can USUALLY go, what, 60, 70...5 MHz ? The "new" ones are on 110-120 MHz right now. May turn out even faster... Don't get me wrong, I am generally for as many choices as one can have. I would support more variants, even cheap-o boards with 50ish MHz 68030 But from a small production run point of view, I think they will go for the most standardized solution. Buuuuuut as yet another twist, the boards will come fully documented. And having the synczorro slot, nothing is preventing the third party boards, hacks or workaround solutions for any type of CPU. Maybe even 68000 degrader boards

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