Amiga OS4 for Classic - Ships - Nov 30th 2007 - Page 2

Stokey · 22 October 2007, 02:28

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Originally Posted by keropi

and where did you read this?

I heard the announcement on the live broadcast from the show. It was stated that OS4 for Classics will be released on 30/11/07. The package will contain a boot floppy, a CD-ROM and a manual. Pricing was not mentioned.

Stokey · 22 October 2007, 02:32

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Originally Posted by Minuous

BTW I wonder why it needs 64Mb just to boot...it does sound rather bloated if it needs such extraordinary amounts of RAM. I doubt many classic Amigas are going to have so much memory.

I doubt that there are many PPC users with less than 64MB or RAM. That's like fitting a diesel engine in a Ferrari.

Stokey · 22 October 2007, 02:33

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Originally Posted by amigarobbo

64meg of ram to boot, it's like Vista all over again!

No, it's not even close.

Zetr0 · 22 October 2007, 03:55

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Originally Posted by Stokey

No, it's not even close.

its only out by a factor of 10.... which is 2 in Binary... so kinda close

Jope · 22 October 2007, 08:21

Hahah, as if. :-D

Oh well, if it DOES ship, I have a broken CSPPC that will probably have to be sent to JJ B to get un-broken. ;-)

Bamiga2002 · 22 October 2007, 11:26

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Originally Posted by Graham Humphrey

Indeed, a link would be nice.

http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/...24512&forum=33
http://www.amiga.org/modules/news/ar...p?storyid=7499

Graham Humphrey · 22 October 2007, 12:32

Thanks.... that shut me up

Though it wouldn't surprise me at all if it was delayed...

Stokey · 22 October 2007, 12:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Minuous

BTW I wonder why it needs 64Mb just to boot...it does sound rather bloated if it needs such extraordinary amounts of RAM. I doubt many classic Amigas are going to have so much memory.

Maybe because this is a modern OS, not 3.1 with some patches. As for 64MB being bloated, cell phone OSes need more than that.

Stokey · 22 October 2007, 12:46

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Originally Posted by Graham Humphrey

Thanks.... that shut me up

Though it wouldn't surprise me at all if it was delayed...

Of course it wouldn't be a surprise, it's 6 years late and every year there's been an announcement that it would be out by Christmas.

keropi · 22 October 2007, 12:55

also there is no g-rex support, and there is no support for the DMA hack that the Mediator does.... bah...

blade002 · 22 October 2007, 13:52

Actually you have got it all wrong!. Due to a small printing error the release date is NOT Nov 30th 2007, its actually 30th of Nov 2070 !!.

Now that this has been cleared up, we can now move on and forget about Amiga Inc and its incompetence or is that impotence !?!?. Maybe its both.

AMIGAZ · 22 October 2007, 14:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by keropi

also there is no g-rex support, and there is no support for the DMA hack that the Mediator does.... bah...

Yeah, that really blows if you have an A1200

Then you have to wrestle with clockport soundcards to get 16bit sound and PCMCIA Nic's

A4000/A3000 have it better though that can use both Zorro + PCI cards

Zetr0 · 22 October 2007, 15:04

bah! OS4!!!

I WANT OS4 x86!!!!!

truth be said theres most likely a patch to come out for G-Rex and Mediator uses i am sure.... but still....

Stokey · 22 October 2007, 15:18

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Originally Posted by AMIGAZ

Yeah, that really blows if you have an A1200

Then you have to wrestle with clockport soundcards to get 16bit sound and PCMCIA Nic's

A4000/A3000 have it better though that can use both Zorro + PCI cards

Correction. All Mediators use the same DMA hack, so A4000/A3000 users with Mediators are in the same position. I believe the Prometheous will work correctly, but I'm not certain.

Stokey · 22 October 2007, 15:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zetr0

bah! OS4!!!

I WANT OS4 x86!!!!!

truth be said theres most likely a patch to come out for G-Rex and Mediator uses i am sure.... but still....

I doubt it. The devs have said they have no G-Rex docs, hence no support. Can't see that changing any time soon. As for the Mediator, no amount of programming can modify the way it works, so no change there either.

alexh · 22 October 2007, 15:26

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Originally Posted by Stokey

I believe the Prometheous will work correctly, but I'm not certain.

Prometheus doesnt support DMA at all. There was going to be a patch coming out but with the death of Matay I find it unlikely.

AMIGAZ · 22 October 2007, 15:34

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Originally Posted by Stokey

Correction. All Mediators use the same DMA hack, so A4000/A3000 users with Mediators are in the same position. I believe the Prometheous will work correctly, but I'm not certain.

I know, what I meant is that ZIII users can use ZIII nic's, soundcards etc and don't have to have any hackish clockport hardware haning around on the A1200 mobo.

Stokey · 22 October 2007, 16:01

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Originally Posted by AMIGAZ

I know, what I meant is that ZIII users can use ZIII nic's, soundcards etc and don't have to have any hackish clockport hardware haning around on the A1200 mobo.

It's still not perfect for Z3 hardware, as far as I can make out most hardware will be limited to 68k drivers. A few graphics cards will be the exception.

Stokey · 22 October 2007, 16:03

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Originally Posted by alexh

Prometheus doesnt support DMA at all. There was going to be a patch coming out but with the death of Matay I find it unlikely.

Well I did say I wasn't sure about that. I was going by a post made by a Prometheous user on another board. Guess he's in for a dissappointing discovery

AMIGAZ · 22 October 2007, 16:11

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Originally Posted by Stokey

It's still not perfect for Z3 hardware, as far as I can make out most hardware will be limited to 68k drivers. A few graphics cards will be the exception.

True but if the 68k JIT is as good as in MorphOS PowerUP I'm not going to complain

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22 October 2007, 08:21	#25
Jope - Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Helsinki / Finland Age: 43 Posts: 9,861	Hahah, as if. :-D Oh well, if it DOES ship, I have a broken CSPPC that will probably have to be sent to JJ B to get un-broken. ;-)

22 October 2007, 12:32	#27
Graham Humphrey Moderator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Norwich, Norfolk, UK Age: 37 Posts: 11,167	Thanks.... that shut me up Though it wouldn't surprise me at all if it was delayed...

22 October 2007, 12:55	#30
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,040	also there is no g-rex support, and there is no support for the DMA hack that the Mediator does.... bah...

22 October 2007, 13:52	#31
blade002 Zone Friend Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Australia Age: 50 Posts: 2,616	Actually you have got it all wrong!. Due to a small printing error the release date is NOT Nov 30th 2007, its actually 30th of Nov 2070 !!. Now that this has been cleared up, we can now move on and forget about Amiga Inc and its incompetence or is that impotence !?!?. Maybe its both.

22 October 2007, 15:04	#33
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	bah! OS4!!! I WANT OS4 x86!!!!! truth be said theres most likely a patch to come out for G-Rex and Mediator uses i am sure.... but still....

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