Higer processor extras??

Johnyt · 19 February 2005, 02:43

Hi

I know that most games are able to run perfectly well on the old stock amigas. But I was just wondering wich games take adavantage of any upgrades that you might install. I understand that most games might run a bit smoother but Im on about Games like setters ( bigger map size ) Atrain ( Higer res). I just want to get a list up of games that I can have a go at seeing the differances just out of interest really.

Oh and also any games that just wont run well uless you have upgraded.

19 February 2005, 03:02

Hired Guns - More Ram enables extra sound effects.
Leander - I don't know what is enhanced but a message tells that the expansion board is utilized.
Syndicate - Cpu needs to be better than 68000 otherwise extreme slowdowns will happen.
3d games like breathless, gloom etc. - Stronger the cpu, the better. Breathless isn't good even on a 030/50
Eye of the beholder 2 - I'm not sure about this but me old a500+ used to not play some of the music and I thought this was caused by insufficient ram (had 1mb at that time)

Chuckles · 19 February 2005, 03:20

Wing Commander was also extremely sluggish on a stock Amiga - pretty much unplayable. Assuming you have an accelerator, it becomes playable again.

Codetapper · 19 February 2005, 05:00

Great Courts 2 - With 1Mb chip mem, you get full sound effects for the umpire's calls.

Walker - With enough memory you can hear the speech intro just before the Walker is about to be attached (which is actually annoying as you can't skip it - hence the WHDLoad version has a version with and without the speech).

Some other games like World Cricket will load the entire game into RAM if there is spare memory, thus it no longer needs the disk.

AMIGAZ · 19 February 2005, 08:14

Wings runs smoother on an A1200.
Played it on my A500 when it was released, remember how much it lagged back then.
Formula One Grand Prix will also benefit from a faster CPU but dunno if the game works with 68030 and up.

Amiga1992 · 19 February 2005, 14:08

Mortal Kombat 2 gives you full speech if you have 1.5MB of RAM or more.

girv · 20 February 2005, 03:49

Paradroid'90 gives improved / extra graphics and sound if you have 1Mb chipram or more.

Marcuz · 20 February 2005, 14:34

Sim Ant gives you the possibility of high resolution with 2mb ram (or more than 512kb? i don't remember exactly)

Amiga1992 · 20 February 2005, 19:57

A-Train does that too but I never got it to run in highres :P

andreas · 21 February 2005, 02:14

Wasn't Ambermoon too capable of using additional mem?
I even seem to remember that on an AGA machine, graphics were enhanced.
Sorry, no time to test this out atm.

Johnyt · 21 February 2005, 02:47

Ive tried A-train and it runs fine in high res on my m-tec 1230 @ 28mhz 8mb.
F1 GP I think I ran the other day ok. Sim ant is a game I have never played so i will give that a go soon. I thought gunship 2000 was sonr that would run better but i could not even remeber how to turn the bloody engine ( soem one pleas tell me ) on so god know on that one . The editor for settlers runs fater now thank god for that!! Map size on the game its self is killer.

TikTok · 21 February 2005, 06:01

Pinball Fantasies say "Extra Memory Detected" whilst loading - never ran it on a machine with less than 2MB chip though, so don't know what the differences are.

killergorilla · 21 February 2005, 08:59

Lemmings used to make use of the 512k extra memory, maybe for sound effects or something?

EmuChicken · 21 February 2005, 22:30

Settlers improved a lot if used with 2mb, I remember trying with my stock A500+ with 1mb, no music, just around 30% of the sounds, and this amount of world or something, still bloody playable,.... then the extra mb came, WOOAOARARGHHH!! 2mb gave full music + sound and loads more :-D

I also remember sometimes on 1mb it gave me more than 50% of sound effects sometimes, I never knew why... kept trying to restart and get it but never hardly happened.

Erm, others? ... uhhh.... *The Specials - Blank Expression plays*

Amiga1992 · 22 February 2005, 02:42

I remember making an ultraslim startup sequence to get the most out of Settlers with 1MB!

Djay · 22 February 2005, 03:38

for the A500 the 1/2mb upgrade is a must!

Frontier - Elite II is better on A1200 cos of faster processor and more mb

the BIG upgrades i.e. Blizzard card and 16mb are only really for the PC clones of Wipeout 2097, Doom etc...
... and of course rendering etc

Marcuz · 22 February 2005, 14:05

i'm not sure about Agony, i don't remember if it used memory for better audio, can someone check it?

Firthy2002 · 22 February 2005, 14:18

Lemmings 2 makes use of >1MB of RAM by preloading the game data whilst it is still compressed instead of decompressing whilst it loads.

dirkies · 22 February 2005, 15:18

first game I noticed a difference: F/A 18 Interceptor (Top Gun alike intro sound with A501)
first tool I noticed a difference: White Lightning copier (read source disk in 1 go!

Must say first game I tried when having an A4000/040 was F/A18, and it ran without an issue, it was just sooooooooooo smooth without going too fast, a dream came true!

Johnyt · 26 February 2005, 01:24

Cool gonna check out that F/A interceptor. I like the older flight sims

Well looks like there are not many clasic comercial games that would take adavantage of more than 2mb only smoother running ect. Well cooll thanks for your input guys its been an interesting thread.

19 February 2005, 02:43	#1
Johnyt Zone Friend Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Weymouth, Dorset, England Age: 42 Posts: 69	Higer processor extras?? Hi I know that most games are able to run perfectly well on the old stock amigas. But I was just wondering wich games take adavantage of any upgrades that you might install. I understand that most games might run a bit smoother but Im on about Games like setters ( bigger map size ) Atrain ( Higer res). I just want to get a list up of games that I can have a go at seeing the differances just out of interest really. Oh and also any games that just wont run well uless you have upgraded.

19 February 2005, 03:02	#2
oldpx Posts: n/a	Hired Guns - More Ram enables extra sound effects. Leander - I don't know what is enhanced but a message tells that the expansion board is utilized. Syndicate - Cpu needs to be better than 68000 otherwise extreme slowdowns will happen. 3d games like breathless, gloom etc. - Stronger the cpu, the better. Breathless isn't good even on a 030/50 Eye of the beholder 2 - I'm not sure about this but me old a500+ used to not play some of the music and I thought this was caused by insufficient ram (had 1mb at that time) Last edited by oldpx; 19 February 2005 at 03:08.

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19 February 2005, 03:20	#3
Chuckles The Ancient One Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Kansas City/USA Age: 69 Posts: 685	Wing Commander was also extremely sluggish on a stock Amiga - pretty much unplayable. Assuming you have an accelerator, it becomes playable again.

19 February 2005, 05:00	#4
Codetapper 2 contact me: email only! Join Date: May 2001 Location: Auckland / New Zealand Posts: 3,182	Great Courts 2 - With 1Mb chip mem, you get full sound effects for the umpire's calls. Walker - With enough memory you can hear the speech intro just before the Walker is about to be attached (which is actually annoying as you can't skip it - hence the WHDLoad version has a version with and without the speech). Some other games like World Cricket will load the entire game into RAM if there is spare memory, thus it no longer needs the disk.

19 February 2005, 08:14	#5
AMIGAZ Amiga-Mad Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Sweden Age: 47 Posts: 1,291	Wings runs smoother on an A1200. Played it on my A500 when it was released, remember how much it lagged back then. Formula One Grand Prix will also benefit from a faster CPU but dunno if the game works with 68030 and up.

19 February 2005, 14:08	#6
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	Mortal Kombat 2 gives you full speech if you have 1.5MB of RAM or more.

20 February 2005, 03:49	#7
girv Mostly Harmless Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 1,114	Paradroid'90 gives improved / extra graphics and sound if you have 1Mb chipram or more.

20 February 2005, 14:34	#8
Marcuz Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: . Age: 48 Posts: 5,562	Sim Ant gives you the possibility of high resolution with 2mb ram (or more than 512kb? i don't remember exactly)

20 February 2005, 19:57	#9
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	A-Train does that too but I never got it to run in highres :P

21 February 2005, 02:14	#10
andreas Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Germany Age: 50 Posts: 5,857	Wasn't Ambermoon too capable of using additional mem? I even seem to remember that on an AGA machine, graphics were enhanced. Sorry, no time to test this out atm.

21 February 2005, 02:47	#11
Johnyt Zone Friend Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Weymouth, Dorset, England Age: 42 Posts: 69	Ive tried A-train and it runs fine in high res on my m-tec 1230 @ 28mhz 8mb. F1 GP I think I ran the other day ok. Sim ant is a game I have never played so i will give that a go soon. I thought gunship 2000 was sonr that would run better but i could not even remeber how to turn the bloody engine ( soem one pleas tell me ) on so god know on that one . The editor for settlers runs fater now thank god for that!! Map size on the game its self is killer.

21 February 2005, 06:01	#12
TikTok Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Malayasia Age: 43 Posts: 657	Pinball Fantasies say "Extra Memory Detected" whilst loading - never ran it on a machine with less than 2MB chip though, so don't know what the differences are.

21 February 2005, 08:59	#13
killergorilla Lesser Talent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Age: 42 Posts: 7,957	Lemmings used to make use of the 512k extra memory, maybe for sound effects or something?

21 February 2005, 22:30	#14
EmuChicken Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Nagoya, Japan (moved!) Age: 41 Posts: 746	Settlers improved a lot if used with 2mb, I remember trying with my stock A500+ with 1mb, no music, just around 30% of the sounds, and this amount of world or something, still bloody playable,.... then the extra mb came, WOOAOARARGHHH!! 2mb gave full music + sound and loads more :-D I also remember sometimes on 1mb it gave me more than 50% of sound effects sometimes, I never knew why... kept trying to restart and get it but never hardly happened. Erm, others? ... uhhh.... The Specials - Blank Expression plays

22 February 2005, 02:42	#15
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	I remember making an ultraslim startup sequence to get the most out of Settlers with 1MB!

22 February 2005, 03:38	#16
Djay 95th User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Brighton/UK Age: 48 Posts: 3,120	for the A500 the 1/2mb upgrade is a must! Frontier - Elite II is better on A1200 cos of faster processor and more mb the BIG upgrades i.e. Blizzard card and 16mb are only really for the PC clones of Wipeout 2097, Doom etc... ... and of course rendering etc

22 February 2005, 14:05	#17
Marcuz Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: . Age: 48 Posts: 5,562	i'm not sure about Agony, i don't remember if it used memory for better audio, can someone check it?

22 February 2005, 14:18	#18
Firthy2002 2nd era... Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Leeds, England Age: 40 Posts: 288	Lemmings 2 makes use of >1MB of RAM by preloading the game data whilst it is still compressed instead of decompressing whilst it loads.

22 February 2005, 15:18	#19
dirkies Zone Friend Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Belgium Age: 51 Posts: 1,296	first game I noticed a difference: F/A 18 Interceptor (Top Gun alike intro sound with A501) first tool I noticed a difference: White Lightning copier (read source disk in 1 go! Must say first game I tried when having an A4000/040 was F/A18, and it ran without an issue, it was just sooooooooooo smooth without going too fast, a dream came true!

26 February 2005, 01:24	#20
Johnyt Zone Friend Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Weymouth, Dorset, England Age: 42 Posts: 69	Cool gonna check out that F/A interceptor. I like the older flight sims Well looks like there are not many clasic comercial games that would take adavantage of more than 2mb only smoother running ect. Well cooll thanks for your input guys its been an interesting thread.

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