Warning: Gumtree seller possibly selling unofficial discs?

earok · 27 October 2017, 03:59

https://www.gumtree.com/p/video-game...mes/1269728041

This ^ was brought to my attention earlier. There's no price on it but presumably he sells them when contacted.

DrBong · 27 October 2017, 12:19

The UK seller's ads have all mysteriously disappeared within hours of your post here!

Curious!

http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...trip=0&vwsrc=0 (Google Cache copy of Gumtree ad selling Earok's CD32 games compilation)

EDIT: Looks like the seller was flogging your games CD (and other homebrew ones) for 10 UKP each in another ad. Dodgy bugger!

http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...trip=0&vwsrc=0

Amiga1992 · 27 October 2017, 14:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrBong

The UK seller's ads have all mysteriously disappeared within hours of your post here!

Curious!

I guess the cheeky bugger is an EAB member

Allen1 · 27 October 2017, 15:26

That's shocking, if the add is right then its someone in Bexhill-on-Sea, East Sussex but that could be a false address in case they got noticed like they have been.

kriz · 27 October 2017, 16:16

Damn that is lame!!

earok · 07 July 2018, 07:03

Well, here they go again - stuff from myself, AmigaJay and others. Brought to my attention in a private message.

https://www.gumtree.com/p/other-vide...ale/1304379515

dalek · 07 July 2018, 08:59

let's all hit the report button! I just did...

siyllad · 07 July 2018, 12:37

Also on ebay
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Amiga-gam...QAAOSwOhda7gCh

DDNI · 07 July 2018, 14:17

Looks like the scumtree ad has gone...

Hewitson · 07 July 2018, 16:44

Lol 15 quid for a burnt CD... Great value.

DamienD · 07 July 2018, 17:58

Don't forget he / she probably also printed out the cover / label I'd assume; so that's why it cost so much

Nobby_UK · 07 July 2018, 19:09

£25 (+2.95 Postage) for the 444 (+ 888) Games Disc(s)

str0m · 09 July 2018, 09:35

Same seller as the ebay location is right by the gumtree one (before it was removed)

Mclane · 05 August 2018, 13:55

Hi folks, I'm on the WinUAE section normally worshipping all created by Toni but saw on the indie news site about one of your disks (Cd32 and Beer comp) so headed here to have a look at what there is. Loved the comps but saw this thread..

As the location is known (unlikely they lied about that) and the person reads here (as a post was removed after the thread started) there's a slim possibility that someone may know the posters name...

Go on, if you know 100% who it is then name and shame...

These comps are created in good faith with lots of involved people so a crass bastage ripping off that stuff is lower than Bantha poodo (Star wars joke).

I'm also all over the retro community and we had the same sort of thing, possibly same person selling CD's with emulators for lots of systems as well as Atari..

All this is out there for free and if it was a service just to burn a dic for that price then you might have some understanding but its blatant ripping off..

Paul..

Oh, my location, under my avatar...Not near Bexhill....

newflesh1 · 08 August 2018, 11:14

Just as a thought. Why don't the compilation creators or a designated representative do ebay posts themselves for a reasonable cost to cover discs and printing with a disclaimer stating how a person can get these for free? Maybe stop these clowns posting the bloated ebay priced posts. Same with Gumtree. Both ebay & gumtree will most times just ignore copyright claims. You could claim creator of the compilation and supporting the CD32 scene. Just an idea.

Paulee_Bow · 08 August 2018, 12:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamienD

Don't forget he / she probably also printed out the cover / label I'd assume; so that's why it cost so much

I don’t understand quite why the creators are getting that upset that their collection of copied games is being copied. Do you see what I mean?

I guess that the creators spent some time making sure the menu’s and controls work etc, but this seller is doing a legally grey thing with a product that is legally grey in the first place.

Unless all of the games featured are legally abandonware, then I apologise.

Yeah it’s a bit scumbag seller-like I guess, but far from the worst thing I’ve heard.

EDIT: I don’t want to make anyone feel bad, I might have got the situation wrong and might not know all the facts, I’m new to this board.

DamienD · 08 August 2018, 12:15

xanderbeanz; you do realise that I was being sarcastic in my post that you quoted?

Paulee_Bow · 08 August 2018, 12:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamienD

xanderbeanz; you do realise that I was being sarcastic in my post that you quoted?

Yeah of course

I still don’t quite understand why everyone is that upset, I need it spelling out for me, I can be a bit dense at times, lol.

DamienD · 08 August 2018, 12:37

Due to the fact that these are free compilations and people are selling them on eBay / Gumtree for ludicrous prices / making money; for just burning a CD-R and printing out covers.

Retroplay · 08 August 2018, 12:48

Why not add an eBay (and the likes) "deterrent" screen to these homebrew compilations.
Just like many fan translators do, for instance one like this from the english Akumajou Dracula X translation for PS1:

27 October 2017, 03:59	#1
earok Registered User Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Auckland Posts: 3,539	Warning: Gumtree seller possibly selling unofficial discs? https://www.gumtree.com/p/video-game...mes/1269728041 This ^ was brought to my attention earlier. There's no price on it but presumably he sells them when contacted.

27 October 2017, 12:19	#2
DrBong HOL / AMR Team Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Australia Posts: 2,632	The UK seller's ads have all mysteriously disappeared within hours of your post here! Curious! http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...trip=0&vwsrc=0 (Google Cache copy of Gumtree ad selling Earok's CD32 games compilation) EDIT: Looks like the seller was flogging your games CD (and other homebrew ones) for 10 UKP each in another ad. Dodgy bugger! http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...trip=0&vwsrc=0 Last edited by DrBong; 27 October 2017 at 12:36.

05 August 2018, 13:55	#14
Mclane Old retro god. Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Northolt, West London Age: 62 Posts: 857	Hi folks, I'm on the WinUAE section normally worshipping all created by Toni but saw on the indie news site about one of your disks (Cd32 and Beer comp) so headed here to have a look at what there is. Loved the comps but saw this thread.. As the location is known (unlikely they lied about that) and the person reads here (as a post was removed after the thread started) there's a slim possibility that someone may know the posters name... Go on, if you know 100% who it is then name and shame... These comps are created in good faith with lots of involved people so a crass bastage ripping off that stuff is lower than Bantha poodo (Star wars joke). I'm also all over the retro community and we had the same sort of thing, possibly same person selling CD's with emulators for lots of systems as well as Atari.. All this is out there for free and if it was a service just to burn a dic for that price then you might have some understanding but its blatant ripping off.. Paul.. Oh, my location, under my avatar...Not near Bexhill.... Last edited by Mclane; 05 August 2018 at 14:01.

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27 October 2017, 15:26	#4
Allen1 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Blyth England Age: 68 Posts: 786	That's shocking, if the add is right then its someone in Bexhill-on-Sea, East Sussex but that could be a false address in case they got noticed like they have been.

27 October 2017, 16:16	#5
kriz Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: No(R)Way Age: 41 Posts: 3,185	Damn that is lame!!

07 July 2018, 07:03	#6
earok Registered User Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Auckland Posts: 3,539	Well, here they go again - stuff from myself, AmigaJay and others. Brought to my attention in a private message. https://www.gumtree.com/p/other-vide...ale/1304379515

07 July 2018, 08:59	#7
dalek Registered User Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: NSW/Australia Posts: 462	let's all hit the report button! I just did...

07 July 2018, 12:37	#8
siyllad Registered User Join Date: May 2014 Location: Ireland Posts: 40	Also on ebay https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Amiga-gam...QAAOSwOhda7gCh

07 July 2018, 14:17	#9
DDNI Targ Explorer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 5,431	Looks like the scumtree ad has gone...

07 July 2018, 16:44	#10
Hewitson Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia Age: 41 Posts: 3,771	Lol 15 quid for a burnt CD... Great value.

07 July 2018, 17:58	#11
DamienD Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London / Sydney Age: 47 Posts: 20,420	Don't forget he / she probably also printed out the cover / label I'd assume; so that's why it cost so much

07 July 2018, 19:09	#12
Nobby_UK Registered User Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Liverpool Posts: 2,595	£25 (+2.95 Postage) for the 444 (+ 888) Games Disc(s)

09 July 2018, 09:35	#13
str0m Registered User Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Newcastle, UK Posts: 264	Same seller as the ebay location is right by the gumtree one (before it was removed)

08 August 2018, 11:14	#15
newflesh1 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Scotland Posts: 79	Just as a thought. Why don't the compilation creators or a designated representative do ebay posts themselves for a reasonable cost to cover discs and printing with a disclaimer stating how a person can get these for free? Maybe stop these clowns posting the bloated ebay priced posts. Same with Gumtree. Both ebay & gumtree will most times just ignore copyright claims. You could claim creator of the compilation and supporting the CD32 scene. Just an idea.

08 August 2018, 12:15	#17
DamienD Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London / Sydney Age: 47 Posts: 20,420	xanderbeanz; you do realise that I was being sarcastic in my post that you quoted?

08 August 2018, 12:37	#19
DamienD Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London / Sydney Age: 47 Posts: 20,420	Due to the fact that these are free compilations and people are selling them on eBay / Gumtree for ludicrous prices / making money; for just burning a CD-R and printing out covers.

08 August 2018, 12:48	#20
Retroplay Lemon Curry ? Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Denmark Age: 49 Posts: 4,079	Why not add an eBay (and the likes) "deterrent" screen to these homebrew compilations. Just like many fan translators do, for instance one like this from the english Akumajou Dracula X translation for PS1:

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