KryoFlux: IPF write support - Page 8

mr.vince · 22 February 2012, 23:02

From the official forums:

KryoFlux 2.0 b9 Release 1 (Windows only):

- added write support for ADF (DD & HD). Read the manual (!), don't mix DD data and HD disks and vice versa.
- added support for even more protection formats used on the C64 (see list in DTC or manual)
- manual background removed; happy printing. Please don't print if you don't have to.

Enjoy.

http://kryoflux.com/index.html#download

prowler · 22 February 2012, 23:11

Many thanks for implementation of the .ADF writeback feature!

mr.vince · 22 February 2012, 23:26

IFW is _the_ man to thank...

Wiking67 · 22 February 2012, 23:38

Thanks, why old ui?

dlfrsilver · 22 February 2012, 23:54

Thanks To you guys for the extended ADF support

!!!

mr.vince · 23 February 2012, 00:04

Old UI?!

Wiking67 · 23 February 2012, 00:19

Sorry, me walking in the sleep. extended is nice

desiv · 23 February 2012, 01:21

Awesome!!
But, now? I'm still at work!!!
Now I have to wait until I get home to test this!!

Oh the humanity!! ;-)

Thanx again,

desiv
(what do you mean "checking EAB at work"?? er.. um... look, something shiny!!!)

Supamax · 23 February 2012, 04:27

Hi,

I have a noob question...

The KryoFlux can write IPF and ADF files back to disk.
Is the same true for RAW files?
I mean: if I dump (using the KryoFlux of course) an IBM PC floppy as a RAW file for preservation purposes, will it be possible to write back that file to (another) disk?

Alpha One · 23 February 2012, 06:01

Awesome news!!!! Thaaaanks!

dlfrsilver · 23 February 2012, 08:51

This means that my extended ADF will be rewritable on disk :P

WayneK · 23 February 2012, 10:57

Kudos to the Kryoflux guys (Mr IFW in particular of course!) for this - something I've been waiting patiently for, and it appears as if by magic

Many thanks for all the work you've put into this (and SPS preservation in general)!

Toni Wilen · 23 February 2012, 12:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlfrsilver

This means that my extended ADF will be rewritable on disk :P

I don't think so. Documentation says "sector images" and I can't see any automatic method that would work with extended ADFs, especially if is non-standard format. Gap/write splice position is unknown in extended ADFs and it is impossible to write bit-perfect write splice.

mr.vince · 23 February 2012, 12:55

Tony is absolutely right for the reasons mentioned. Undefined raw data just does not write very well. Same reason KF raw (STREAM) would also be a gamble.

IFW · 23 February 2012, 12:55

Exactly as Toni said

mr.vince · 05 March 2012, 07:26

Forgot to tell... Linux port out as well... Mac port due soon.

dlfrsilver · 05 March 2012, 12:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

I don't think so. Documentation says "sector images" and I can't see any automatic method that would work with extended ADFs, especially if is non-standard format. Gap/write splice position is unknown in extended ADFs and it is impossible to write bit-perfect write splice.

When i say my extended ADF, i mean the one that are not using any crap scheme like those (GAP/Write splice) for instance.

all those with longtracks can be written back with no problem.

Toni Wilen · 05 March 2012, 12:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlfrsilver

When i say my extended ADF, i mean the one that are not using any crap scheme like those (GAP/Write splice) for instance.

all those with longtracks can be written back with no problem.

You don't really know what are you talking about.. No raw track can be written back blindly. It simply won't work.

mr.vince · 10 March 2012, 22:23

Just for the record:

KryoFlux 2.0 b9 Release 1 (Windows, Linux & Mac OS X):

- updated Mac OS X port, now Windows, Linux and Mac OS X have the same feature set.

Many thanks to Alexander Coers and Adam Nielsen for porting the beast.

http://kryoflux.com/index.html#download

desiv · 18 March 2012, 05:27

Just looking thru the documentation and noticed the -wp0 -wp1 options..
I won't understand anything too complicated :-), but why is there a difference in floppy for the destination system?
I know it talks about the bitcell size, but I've no idea what that is...

I always thought that a game, whether PAL or NTSC was the same data...

If I'm going to be playing an ADF that was designed for a PAL Amiga on my NTSC Amiga, do I use -wp1 as the destination system is an NTSC Amiga or -wp0 as the original ADF was designed for a PAL system (assuming the ADF is a PAL game)..

I just assumed disks were PAL/NTSC agnostic...

Just interested,..

desi

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22 February 2012, 23:02	#141
mr.vince Cheesy crust Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Hawk's Creek Age: 48 Posts: 1,383	From the official forums: KryoFlux 2.0 b9 Release 1 (Windows only): - added write support for ADF (DD & HD). Read the manual (!), don't mix DD data and HD disks and vice versa. - added support for even more protection formats used on the C64 (see list in DTC or manual) - manual background removed; happy printing. Please don't print if you don't have to. Enjoy. http://kryoflux.com/index.html#download

22 February 2012, 23:11	#142
prowler Global Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sidcup, England Posts: 10,300	Many thanks for implementation of the .ADF writeback feature!

22 February 2012, 23:26	#143
mr.vince Cheesy crust Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Hawk's Creek Age: 48 Posts: 1,383	IFW is _the_ man to thank...

22 February 2012, 23:38	#144
Wiking67 Blowing Out The Flame Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Lulea Sweden Age: 57 Posts: 214	Thanks, why old ui?

22 February 2012, 23:54	#145
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-SPS France Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 46 Posts: 10,412	Thanks To you guys for the extended ADF support !!!

23 February 2012, 00:04	#146
mr.vince Cheesy crust Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Hawk's Creek Age: 48 Posts: 1,383	Old UI?!

23 February 2012, 00:19	#147
Wiking67 Blowing Out The Flame Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Lulea Sweden Age: 57 Posts: 214	Sorry, me walking in the sleep. extended is nice

23 February 2012, 01:21	#148
desiv Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Salem, OR Posts: 1,767	Awesome!! But, now? I'm still at work!!! Now I have to wait until I get home to test this!! Oh the humanity!! ;-) Thanx again, desiv (what do you mean "checking EAB at work"?? er.. um... look, something shiny!!!)

23 February 2012, 04:27	#149
Supamax Da Digger :) Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Monza, Italy Posts: 2,822	Hi, I have a noob question... The KryoFlux can write IPF and ADF files back to disk. Is the same true for RAW files? I mean: if I dump (using the KryoFlux of course) an IBM PC floppy as a RAW file for preservation purposes, will it be possible to write back that file to (another) disk?

23 February 2012, 06:01	#150
Alpha One Registered User Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Ger Posts: 223	Awesome news!!!! Thaaaanks!

23 February 2012, 08:51	#151
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-SPS France Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 46 Posts: 10,412	This means that my extended ADF will be rewritable on disk :P

23 February 2012, 10:57	#152
WayneK Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Somewhere secret Age: 50 Posts: 364	Kudos to the Kryoflux guys (Mr IFW in particular of course!) for this - something I've been waiting patiently for, and it appears as if by magic Many thanks for all the work you've put into this (and SPS preservation in general)!

23 February 2012, 12:55	#154
mr.vince Cheesy crust Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Hawk's Creek Age: 48 Posts: 1,383	Tony is absolutely right for the reasons mentioned. Undefined raw data just does not write very well. Same reason KF raw (STREAM) would also be a gamble.

23 February 2012, 12:55	#155
IFW Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: ... Age: 52 Posts: 1,838	Exactly as Toni said

05 March 2012, 07:26	#156
mr.vince Cheesy crust Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Hawk's Creek Age: 48 Posts: 1,383	Forgot to tell... Linux port out as well... Mac port due soon.

10 March 2012, 22:23	#159
mr.vince Cheesy crust Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Hawk's Creek Age: 48 Posts: 1,383	Just for the record: KryoFlux 2.0 b9 Release 1 (Windows, Linux & Mac OS X): - updated Mac OS X port, now Windows, Linux and Mac OS X have the same feature set. Many thanks to Alexander Coers and Adam Nielsen for porting the beast. http://kryoflux.com/index.html#download

18 March 2012, 05:27	#160
desiv Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Salem, OR Posts: 1,767	Just looking thru the documentation and noticed the -wp0 -wp1 options.. I won't understand anything too complicated :-), but why is there a difference in floppy for the destination system? I know it talks about the bitcell size, but I've no idea what that is... I always thought that a game, whether PAL or NTSC was the same data... If I'm going to be playing an ADF that was designed for a PAL Amiga on my NTSC Amiga, do I use -wp1 as the destination system is an NTSC Amiga or -wp0 as the original ADF was designed for a PAL system (assuming the ADF is a PAL game).. I just assumed disks were PAL/NTSC agnostic... Just interested,.. desi

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