CrossDos help needed

05 November 2006, 01:59

I recently aquired an Amiga 2000, but I am having a few problems...maybe someone here can help with this...

Computer is the following:

Amiga 2000, 4.5 Motherboard
8 megs ram
2 800k floppies
Amigen Genlock
System 2.1

Intalled with:
Broadcast Titler
Scala MM300 (with the dongle)

Problems:

No mouse - this is a real pain in the neck to try to use this without one...currently doing the keyboard method but its very frustrating as the arrow doesn't move very fast....any way to get it to go a bit faster until I can find a mouse somewhere for it?

No monitor - All I get is black and white out of the video output, and the Genlock has no breakout cable...I found the pinouts, but from what I'm seeing, it is only outputting black and white as well

No terminal software - I can't connect to anything else to get software into the machine because there's no communications program installed that I can find.

CrossDos won't work - I can't get CrossDos to work. Putting in an 700 K PC disk gives you FD1:???? or FD0???? I've checked the devs folder and there is a PC0: in there, I also copied over a folder called DOSDrivers which contains PC1 PC0 AUX and RAD, but this makes no difference. WHen you attempt to mount PC0: you get an error saying that it is an unknown device

My best bet I think would be to get crossdos working, so I can get some other software in there. Any ideas what I'm doing wrong?

I have no system disks for this computer, all I have is what is in the hard drive right now.

TikTok · 05 November 2006, 09:23

This is from the top of my head since I don't have an Amiga or WinUAE handy right now.

If you are using Workbench 2, the DOSDrivers directory will be no use to you. DOSDrivers directory is only used by Workbench 2.1 and above. You need to add an entry for PC0 into your mountlist file (in devs directory IIRC). Basically you effectively copy the contents of DOSDrivers/PC0 (which is a text file) to the bottom of your mountlist. There is one line you need to remove when copying this IIRC.

You should also have mfm.device in devs and CrossDOSFileSystem in L.

Jope · 05 November 2006, 09:46

Hold down shift along with Amiga when moving the mouse pointer.

You are probably missing mfm.device? The dosdriver alone will not help unless you have a suitable filesystem and device driver. Look at the dosdriver to see what it uses.

RAmiga-E
newcli[enter]
type devs:dosdrivers/pc0[enter]
[read and understand]
endcli[enter]

snarkhunter · 05 November 2006, 13:09

You should be able to order a mouse from the following web site :

http://www.vesalia.de/?V02b0f1452554...8246661592b626

I did get two mice from them myself, a couple of years ago. Not the same brand as the currently available ones, but I guess these should be ok too...

sh

05 November 2006, 23:38

Thanks for the replies,

I took a look at the mountlist, and there was no entries for PC0 and PC1 so I've added those, however, I'm missing the mfm.device and the CrossDosFileSystem in L. I can't seem to find these anywhere on the computer either, so its looking like I'm stuck again.

I'll look into getting one of those new mice if I can't find something local (and I can get around this somehow)

I also hooked in a SCSI CD ROM, the machine knows its there, but doesn't know what to do with it, so its not much use right now.

Is there any kind of terminal program that might be in the system that I'm overlooking? Looks like that might be the only way right now.

and thankyou for the mouse/keyboard tip...thats way faster and easier

alewis · 09 November 2006, 19:08

The mfm.device doesnt have an icon, open the window and do a Show All Files from the, erm, top menu

10 November 2006, 07:10

>You should also have mfm.device in devs and CrossDOSFileSystem in L.

Is there anywhere I can download these two files?

I did find a terminal program in the Amiga, so with some fiddling I think I can get two dialup modems to connect to each other (or I'll have to dial in from the amiga to another machine somewhere else) and download them in that way. Once they are in there I can read DOS disks and this won't be a problem anymore. (I can't use a null modem cable because only one computer store nearby sells these and they want $35 for it!)

Would someone be able to email me working CrossDos files?

Please?

TikTok · 10 November 2006, 14:32

You could also try one of the several free CrossDOS style programs available on Aminet (www.aminet.net). I can't remember any names from the top of my head but there are a couple of popular ones.

ppill · 10 November 2006, 15:08

Fat95 is one of those and available on aminet. Here's the link http://aminet.net/search.php?query=fat95.

05 November 2006, 01:59	#1
Raqoon Posts: n/a	CrossDos help needed I recently aquired an Amiga 2000, but I am having a few problems...maybe someone here can help with this... Computer is the following: Amiga 2000, 4.5 Motherboard 8 megs ram 2 800k floppies Amigen Genlock System 2.1 Intalled with: Broadcast Titler Scala MM300 (with the dongle) Problems: No mouse - this is a real pain in the neck to try to use this without one...currently doing the keyboard method but its very frustrating as the arrow doesn't move very fast....any way to get it to go a bit faster until I can find a mouse somewhere for it? No monitor - All I get is black and white out of the video output, and the Genlock has no breakout cable...I found the pinouts, but from what I'm seeing, it is only outputting black and white as well No terminal software - I can't connect to anything else to get software into the machine because there's no communications program installed that I can find. CrossDos won't work - I can't get CrossDos to work. Putting in an 700 K PC disk gives you FD1:???? or FD0???? I've checked the devs folder and there is a PC0: in there, I also copied over a folder called DOSDrivers which contains PC1 PC0 AUX and RAD, but this makes no difference. WHen you attempt to mount PC0: you get an error saying that it is an unknown device My best bet I think would be to get crossdos working, so I can get some other software in there. Any ideas what I'm doing wrong? I have no system disks for this computer, all I have is what is in the hard drive right now.

05 November 2006, 13:09	#4
snarkhunter Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: France Age: 59 Posts: 74	You should be able to order a mouse from the following web site : http://www.vesalia.de/?V02b0f1452554...8246661592b626 I did get two mice from them myself, a couple of years ago. Not the same brand as the currently available ones, but I guess these should be ok too... sh Last edited by snarkhunter; 05 November 2006 at 13:20.

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05 November 2006, 09:23	#2
TikTok Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Malayasia Age: 43 Posts: 657	This is from the top of my head since I don't have an Amiga or WinUAE handy right now. If you are using Workbench 2, the DOSDrivers directory will be no use to you. DOSDrivers directory is only used by Workbench 2.1 and above. You need to add an entry for PC0 into your mountlist file (in devs directory IIRC). Basically you effectively copy the contents of DOSDrivers/PC0 (which is a text file) to the bottom of your mountlist. There is one line you need to remove when copying this IIRC. You should also have mfm.device in devs and CrossDOSFileSystem in L.

05 November 2006, 09:46	#3
Jope - Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Helsinki / Finland Age: 43 Posts: 9,861	Hold down shift along with Amiga when moving the mouse pointer. You are probably missing mfm.device? The dosdriver alone will not help unless you have a suitable filesystem and device driver. Look at the dosdriver to see what it uses. RAmiga-E newcli[enter] type devs:dosdrivers/pc0[enter] [read and understand] endcli[enter]

05 November 2006, 23:38	#5
Raqoon Posts: n/a	Thanks for the replies, I took a look at the mountlist, and there was no entries for PC0 and PC1 so I've added those, however, I'm missing the mfm.device and the CrossDosFileSystem in L. I can't seem to find these anywhere on the computer either, so its looking like I'm stuck again. I'll look into getting one of those new mice if I can't find something local (and I can get around this somehow) I also hooked in a SCSI CD ROM, the machine knows its there, but doesn't know what to do with it, so its not much use right now. Is there any kind of terminal program that might be in the system that I'm overlooking? Looks like that might be the only way right now. and thankyou for the mouse/keyboard tip...thats way faster and easier

09 November 2006, 19:08	#6
alewis Monochrome and 8 bit Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Underbarrow, Gods Country Age: 57 Posts: 600	The mfm.device doesnt have an icon, open the window and do a Show All Files from the, erm, top menu

10 November 2006, 07:10	#7
Raqoon Posts: n/a	>You should also have mfm.device in devs and CrossDOSFileSystem in L. Is there anywhere I can download these two files? I did find a terminal program in the Amiga, so with some fiddling I think I can get two dialup modems to connect to each other (or I'll have to dial in from the amiga to another machine somewhere else) and download them in that way. Once they are in there I can read DOS disks and this won't be a problem anymore. (I can't use a null modem cable because only one computer store nearby sells these and they want $35 for it!) Would someone be able to email me working CrossDos files? Please?

10 November 2006, 14:32	#8
TikTok Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Malayasia Age: 43 Posts: 657	You could also try one of the several free CrossDOS style programs available on Aminet (www.aminet.net). I can't remember any names from the top of my head but there are a couple of popular ones.

10 November 2006, 15:08	#9
ppill CON: artist Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Poland Age: 43 Posts: 1,250	Fat95 is one of those and available on aminet. Here's the link http://aminet.net/search.php?query=fat95.

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