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[PeterK]

Originally Posted by kolla

some tool that can create public HAM8 screens?

Not sure, what exactly you are looking for, but there is a HAM converter written for JRE (java script?) which I didn't try out myself yet, but it looks very promising ... http://mrsebe.bplaced.net/blog/wordpress/?page_id=374

[AMIGASYSTEM]

I do not know if it can serve, but there are two excellent programs on AROS that save the Amiga Ilbm format with different colors

[kolla]

Hum, I must have been very unclear... I meant a program, like MUI PSI, that can create public screens, that supports HAM modes. AFAIK, the only way to have any HAM public screen, is by setting Workbench screen to HAM with MUIScrMode. I would prefer to have my IBrowse screen HAM8 instead of having to run IBrowse on HAM8 Workbench screen.

[PeterK]

Sorry for misunderstanding you, but I never tried MUI PSI yet, did not even know what it is, since the MUI package is not installed on my system, only the libraries. I have no demand for PSI. Try NewMode instead, maybe that does what you are looking for. It redirects screenmode requests of applications to another screenmode. But redirecting IBrowse to a HAM8 screen does not mean that IBrowse suddenly displays images in HAM8, probably just in 64 colors.

[Retrofan]

Originally Posted by PeterK

... Try NewMode instead, maybe that does what you are looking for. It redirects screenmode requests of applications to another screenmode.

I've just tried installing NewMode and saving its config and I then started NetSurf (Official) -as it actually has problems with the colors when using render.library v31) and it taked me directly to a black screen (my Tv's "LG" logo on screen without signal) that I couldn't revert. Not F12 for WinUAE, not even Alt+Ctrl+Supr was working and only when pressing the on-off button of the computer I returned to have the screen while making the questions to save this or whatever as it was turning the PC off.

[AMIGASYSTEM]

Ciao Retrofan, I use render.library v40.08 and I have no problems with NewMode and NetSurf!

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[Retrofan]

Originally Posted by AMIGASYSTEM

Ciao Retrofan, I use render.library v40.08 and I have no problems with NewMode and NetSurf!

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But it is slower and also doesn't work with AmiNetRadio or without FPU I believe to remember.
Anyway about NewMode maybe it's CyberbugFixAga. I can try it without it.
NetSurf works fine with render.library 3.1 But with wrong colors, that's why I wanted to try it.

Edit: Anyway I don't like the idea of having to use a program to run another to fix its own problems.

[AMIGASYSTEM]

AmiNetRadio it works well with me render.library v40.08

[PeterK]

Didn't use NewMode for about 25 years anymore and never tried it on WinUAE, just on my old dead A2000. Don't blame it on me if NewMode doesn't work for you. It was only meant as a possible alternative for kolla, although I don't understand why he wants to use IBrowse on HAM8 screens, but I don't use IBrowse either.

@Retrofan
Seems that your PC monitor was out of the supported frequency range or there was no signal at all.

[Retrofan]

Originally Posted by AMIGASYSTEM

AmiNetRadio it works well with me render.library v40.08

Thanks, but I don't understand why you always show an AfAOS screen. There are more things out there in the Amiga world without RTG, without FPU, less colors, etc

[kolla]

Geh, no, newmode is something entirely different... it's a mode promoter, like modepro.

PSI is what you use to configure screens and screen properties, typically to give mui programs dedicated screens. Most people probably just call it from within MUI prefs. And yes, with correct datatypes, IBrowse renders HAM8 correctly.

Is the concept "public screens" really this alien to people? I am baffled.


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[kolla]

This is what I speak of...

[AMIGASYSTEM]

Originally Posted by Retrofan

Thanks, but I don't understand why you always show an AfAOS screen. There are more things out there in the Amiga world without RTG, without FPU, less colors, etc

After 30 years you can not use a primitive Workbench again, using the best you get the best. What sense does it have to have a screen with a few colors or a screen where you can not open more than one window, because there is no space? and how to use on Windows PC 1.04

My system is an OS 3.9 BB/1/2/3/4 + AfA-OS extension, not an AfA-OS Standard, not Dopus Magellan.

In any case, using 2 Montitor you can have both RTG + PAL:

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[PeterK]

Originally Posted by kolla

Geh, no, newmode is something entirely different... it's a mode promoter, like modepro.

PSI is what you use to configure screens and screen properties, typically to give mui programs dedicated screens. Most people probably just call it from within MUI prefs. And yes, with correct datatypes, IBrowse renders HAM8 correctly.

Is the concept "public screens" really this alien to people? I am baffled.

Still can not see what PSI is really good for. I've no experience with IBrowse, but in AWeb for example, I can choose whether it should start as a window on the WB screen or should open its own screen and then I can select one with all what I need. I never had any demand for a tool like PSI. Is IBrowse not able to configure its own window/screen settings?

@Retrofan and AMIGASYSTEM
Please don't start fighting here, objective discussions are ok.

[AMIGASYSTEM]

@PeterK
I'm sorry if I exaggerate

@kolla
With MUI 3.9, 4.x, 5.x PSI it does not seem to work

[James]

Originally Posted by AMIGASYSTEM

With MUI 3.9, 4.x, 5.x PSI it does not seem to work

Use MUI preferences > Screen instead.

[AMIGASYSTEM]

Thanks so much James, i had never noticed

[daxb]

Originally Posted by PeterK

Still can not see what PSI is really good for. I've no experience with IBrowse, but in AWeb for example, I can choose whether it should start as a window on the WB screen or should open its own screen and then I can select one with all what I need.

Seems you never used MUI much. PSI is part of MUI. IBrowse uses MUI for it's GUI. Because MUI can handle user configured screens there is no need for any MUI programs to extra add this functionality. So for MUI programs you use PSI for screen configuration.

AWeb is not using MUI but another GUI system (I don't know which). This GUI system seems not to support screen configuration. So AWeb itself needs to add this functionality. Simple thing, right?

[PeterK]

Thanks for that clarification and MUI lesson.
I still use MUI 3.8 and my MUI programs, like Scout, simply open in windows on my Workbench screen. That's all I need to be happy.

[daxb]

Yes, in most cases it is fine to have windows open on Workbench screen. Some programs like IBrowse, YAM, SimplMail, some WBGames, ... what need a large window to be useful would take the whole Workbench screen or they need more or less colors then WB screen are better to use on it's own screen. Public screens are one of the strengths of Amiga. But there is the chip ram limit on ECS/AGA systems as we know.