OS3.9 progs on OS4.1

kkhard · 03 September 2014, 21:11

i am a total newb to os4.1. i bought it thinking it would run os3.9 programs "as is". Petunia and the other built-in emulator is supposed to "just work out of the box". i can't get RunInUAE to install correctly.

my program won't even start. says "stack overflow".

is there something i am supposed to set up? the roms are in the emulation folder. what am i missing?

FOL · 04 September 2014, 01:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by kkhard

i am a total newb to os4.1. i bought it thinking it would run os3.9 programs "as is". Petunia and the other built-in emulator is supposed to "just work out of the box". i can't get RunInUAE to install correctly.

my program won't even start. says "stack overflow".

is there something i am supposed to set up? the roms are in the emulation folder. what am i missing?

RunInUAE should install with Amiupdate, once thats istalled all you do is double click program / adf etc etc and it should run UAE.

Its also a good idea to set stack to 8192 in workbench prefs.

kkhard · 06 September 2014, 02:28

i was under the impression that m68k programs would run if "they were written properly and didn't access the custom chips". i got 1 program to start, but it didn't like an old library. i will keep trying.....

FOL · 06 September 2014, 10:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by kkhard

i was under the impression that m68k programs would run if "they were written properly and didn't access the custom chips". i got 1 program to start, but it didn't like an old library. i will keep trying.....

They should using petunia, but you can just use RUNinUAE.

Minuous · 06 September 2014, 15:16

If they access any OS3.5/3.9 functionality they are unlikely to run natively under OS4.

MickJT · 07 September 2014, 16:28

Seeing as this thread is in support.WinUAE, if you're running 68k programs under OS4.1 within WinUAE, the PearPC core is missing things that can cause random crashes in PPC and 68k-emulated programs. The QEMU core hopefully will fix that.

FOL · 07 September 2014, 18:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by MickJT

Seeing as this thread is in support.WinUAE, if you're running 68k programs under OS4.1 within WinUAE, the PearPC core is missing things that can cause random crashes in PPC and 68k-emulated programs. The QEMU core hopefully will fix that.

Doh, good point.
Didn't think any one would even try to do this in WinUAE.

utri007 · 07 September 2014, 20:55

They should run just fine. 99% of productivity software just work and they are fast.

There is something wron in you installation. Have you run amiupdate from system folder?

kkhard · 08 September 2014, 04:11

yes, running in WinUAE. hopefully MickJT is correct. got some DOS only programs to work. QEMU will hopefully get the rest to work.

i still can't get RunInUAE to install. locks up right at start of install.

ajk · 08 September 2014, 07:53

PPC support in WinUAE is what, a few weeks old now? Don't expect too much too soon

Most system legal 3.x programs do run fine in 4.x on the actual hardware so I'm sure we'll get there eventually.

MickJT · 08 September 2014, 08:17

RunInUAE can be installed if you put rexxsyslib.library in the Compatibility list (SYS:Prefs/Compatibility). You normally don't need to do this, but it allows installation under the PearPC core. I'm not sure if you need to then do a reboot before install. You might need to remove and re-add after system updates as well.

E-UAE itself though still won't work yet under the PearPC core. So, there's no point in installing RunInUAE anyway. Wait until the QEMU core is ready. I suspect it'll still be way too slow to do much of anything. On my Sam440ep-Flex @ 800mhz, I have to set frameskip to 1 to run any game without stuttering.

As for running 68k applications via Petunia, that should be OK under the QEMU core.

mritter0 · 13 September 2014, 23:13

With latest beta I got some of my programs to run. Yeah! Not using RunInUAE. I think that is more for games.

FOL · 13 September 2014, 23:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by MickJT

RunInUAE can be installed if you put rexxsyslib.library in the Compatibility list (SYS:Prefs/Compatibility). You normally don't need to do this, but it allows installation under the PearPC core. I'm not sure if you need to then do a reboot before install. You might need to remove and re-add after system updates as well.

E-UAE itself though still won't work yet under the PearPC core. So, there's no point in installing RunInUAE anyway. Wait until the QEMU core is ready. I suspect it'll still be way too slow to do much of anything. On my Sam440ep-Flex @ 800mhz, I have to set frameskip to 1 to run any game without stuttering.

As for running 68k applications via Petunia, that should be OK under the QEMU core.

RunInUAE installs fine without any compatability settings with QEMU.

kkhard · 14 September 2014, 02:17

sweet! mine are working too! toni rocks!

03 September 2014, 21:11	#1
kkhard Registered User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: USA Posts: 10	OS3.9 progs on OS4.1 i am a total newb to os4.1. i bought it thinking it would run os3.9 programs "as is". Petunia and the other built-in emulator is supposed to "just work out of the box". i can't get RunInUAE to install correctly. my program won't even start. says "stack overflow". is there something i am supposed to set up? the roms are in the emulation folder. what am i missing?

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06 September 2014, 02:28	#3
kkhard Registered User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: USA Posts: 10	i was under the impression that m68k programs would run if "they were written properly and didn't access the custom chips". i got 1 program to start, but it didn't like an old library. i will keep trying.....

06 September 2014, 15:16	#5
Minuous Coder/webmaster/gamer Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Canberra/Australia Posts: 2,630	If they access any OS3.5/3.9 functionality they are unlikely to run natively under OS4.

07 September 2014, 16:28	#6
MickJT Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 189	Seeing as this thread is in support.WinUAE, if you're running 68k programs under OS4.1 within WinUAE, the PearPC core is missing things that can cause random crashes in PPC and 68k-emulated programs. The QEMU core hopefully will fix that.

07 September 2014, 20:55	#8
utri007 mä vaan Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Finland Posts: 1,653	They should run just fine. 99% of productivity software just work and they are fast. There is something wron in you installation. Have you run amiupdate from system folder?

08 September 2014, 04:11	#9
kkhard Registered User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: USA Posts: 10	yes, running in WinUAE. hopefully MickJT is correct. got some DOS only programs to work. QEMU will hopefully get the rest to work. i still can't get RunInUAE to install. locks up right at start of install.

08 September 2014, 07:53	#10
ajk Registered User Join Date: May 2010 Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 1,341	PPC support in WinUAE is what, a few weeks old now? Don't expect too much too soon Most system legal 3.x programs do run fine in 4.x on the actual hardware so I'm sure we'll get there eventually.

08 September 2014, 08:17	#11
MickJT Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 189	RunInUAE can be installed if you put rexxsyslib.library in the Compatibility list (SYS:Prefs/Compatibility). You normally don't need to do this, but it allows installation under the PearPC core. I'm not sure if you need to then do a reboot before install. You might need to remove and re-add after system updates as well. E-UAE itself though still won't work yet under the PearPC core. So, there's no point in installing RunInUAE anyway. Wait until the QEMU core is ready. I suspect it'll still be way too slow to do much of anything. On my Sam440ep-Flex @ 800mhz, I have to set frameskip to 1 to run any game without stuttering. As for running 68k applications via Petunia, that should be OK under the QEMU core.

13 September 2014, 23:13	#12
mritter0 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Bettendorf, IA, USA Age: 52 Posts: 204	With latest beta I got some of my programs to run. Yeah! Not using RunInUAE. I think that is more for games.

14 September 2014, 02:17	#14
kkhard Registered User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: USA Posts: 10	sweet! mine are working too! toni rocks!

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