Proper HD and WinUAE - Page 3

spannernick · 18 July 2007, 20:30

Can someone help me please..????

I don't know want to do.
I can format the drive but i what to partion it as one drive first....HELP..

spannernick · 18 July 2007, 20:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

uaehf.device

So thats the device i change it to but how do i change it,i have the install disk in..??

musashi5150 · 18 July 2007, 20:57

You need to get to where the HDToolBox icon is. Click it once and then choose "Icon->Information" from the RightMouse menu.

You should then be able to type DEVICE=uaehf.device into the tooltypes part and save it.

Hopefully you should then be able to run HDToolBox and prep your drive as required

spannernick · 18 July 2007, 21:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by musashi5150

You need to get to where the HDToolBox icon is. Click it once and then choose "Icon->Information" from the RightMouse menu.

You should then be able to type DEVICE=uaehf.device into the tooltypes part and save it.

Hopefully you should then be able to run HDToolBox and prep your drive as required

So i delete the line in infomation:
SCSI_DEVICE_NAME=scsi.device

And type in the new one..?

musashi5150 · 18 July 2007, 21:03

Just replace the scsi.device part I think... I'm on IRC if you need any help.

spannernick · 18 July 2007, 21:05

Done it thanks so very much matey..

It see it now..

musashi5150 · 18 July 2007, 21:06

Glad to be of service... I had to do a similar thing with gvpscsi.device once

FOL · 11 August 2007, 16:19

Im, having this problem. Tried and tried and tried, still will not work, is there any way to get rid of the safety warning? its annoying.

I have altered httoolbox to uaehf.device, I have only set the CF card as dh0: rebooted and rebooted, but everytime hdtool box does not see the drive fullstop.

EDIT:- also drive safety check disable does not work. It did in last beta before 1.4.3.

Bootlog, says its active, and not disabled even though i done the magic command line.

Heres the bootlog, with check disabled. Notice how it says its ignored the drives.

opening device '\\?\ide#diskhdt722525dlat80_________________________v44oa70a#5&214892f4&0&0.0.0#{53f56307-b6bf-11d0-94f2-00a0c91efb8b}'
device id string: 'HDT722525DLAT80 V44OA70A'
BytesPerSector=512 Cyls=30401 TracksPerCyl=255 SecsPerTrack=63
device size 250059350016 (0x3a38b2e000) bytes
4 MBR partitions found
0: num: 1 type: 07 offset: 32256 size: 20974431744, type not 0x76
1: num: 2 type: 07 offset: 20974464000 size: 104855869440, type not 0x76
2: num: 3 type: 07 offset: 125830333440 size: 124226403840, type not 0x76
non-empty MBR partition table detected, doing RDB check anyway
hd ignored, not empty and no RDB detected
opening device '\\?\usbstor#disk&ven_generic&prod_storage_device&rev_0128#01090&0#{53f56307-b6bf-11d0-94f2-00a0c91efb8b}'
device id string: 'Generic STORAGE DEVICE 0128'
BytesPerSector=512 Cyls=499 TracksPerCyl=255 SecsPerTrack=63
device size 4110188544 (0xf4fc8000) bytes
1 MBR partitions found
0: num: 1 type: 04 offset: 0 size: 4110188544, type not 0x76
non-empty MBR partition table detected, doing RDB check anyway
hd ignored, not empty and no RDB detected
opening device '\\?\usbstor#disk&ven_generic&prod_storage_device&rev_0128#01090&1#{53f56307-b6bf-11d0-94f2-00a0c91efb8b}'
device id string: 'Generic STORAGE DEVICE 0128'
IOCTL_DISK_GET_DRIVE_GEOMETRY failed with error code 21.
Drive scan result: 2 Amiga formatted drives detected
hfd open: 'HD_Generic STORAGE DEVICE 0128'
FSCTL_ALLOW_EXTENDED_DASD_IO returned 1
hd ignored, not empty and no RDB detected
Warning: The drive safety check has been disabled, and non-empty and non-RDB partitioned hard disk(s) were detected.
HDF 'HD_Generic STORAGE DEVICE 0128' opened succesfully, handle=00000614, mode=1
close handle=00000614

Toni Wilen · 11 August 2007, 16:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by FOL

Im, having this problem. Tried and tried and tried, still will not work, is there any way to get rid of the safety warning? its annoying.

no, it is too easy to partition your main Windows drive..

Note that you can remove the command line parameter after you have partitioned the drive in hdtoolbox.

Quote:

I have altered httoolbox to uaehf.device, I have only set the CF card as dh0: rebooted and rebooted, but everytime hdtool box does not see the drive fullstop.

hmm? dh0:? you don't set anything to dh0: when using real harddrives, device names are set in hdtoolbox..

Make sure you have the real drive in topmost position in harddrive-panel. (added using "add harddrive")

Quote:

Heres the bootlog, with check disabled. Notice how it says its ignored the drives.

Nothing wrong here, log just won't change (except "Warning: The drive safety check has been disabled, and non-empty and non-RDB partitioned hard disk(s) were detected.")

Because your CF is MBR formatted, make sure you reinsert it after you have partitioned it with hdtoolbox (you don't want windows to think it is still MBR formatted while you are accessing it in WinUAE..)

FOL · 11 August 2007, 16:57

Ermmm, you just repeated what i have already done, Everything you have put I have already done. It will not show the CF in HDToolBox, hence my problem. I could just go and partition it in my real Amiga, but that defeats the object of the function in WinUAE.

EDIT:- Just tried again, and it worked first time, i have done nothing different from before. Bug maybe?

EDIT2:- There is definately issues, I have setup RDB, then rebooted, now even though i can see partitions, HDtoolBox, will not see the CF again. There is definate issues with this feature.

Toni Wilen · 12 August 2007, 18:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by FOL

Ermmm, you just repeated what i have already done, Everything you have put I have already done. It will not show the CF in HDToolBox, hence my problem. I could just go and partition it in my real Amiga, but that defeats the object of the function in WinUAE.

EDIT:- Just tried again, and it worked first time, i have done nothing different from before. Bug maybe?

EDIT2:- There is definately issues, I have setup RDB, then rebooted, now even though i can see partitions, HDtoolBox, will not see the CF again. There is definate issues with this feature.

Do you see any difference in logs (winuaelog.txt) between non-working and working hdtoolbox? (like does "Mounting uaehf.device blahblah" appear)

FOL · 12 August 2007, 22:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

Do you see any difference in logs (winuaelog.txt) between non-working and working hdtoolbox? (like does "Mounting uaehf.device blahblah" appear)

Seems to have started working now, dont know why, i havent altered hdtoolbox from uaehf.device. Its weird, seems to be at its worse, if i erase the CF completly then try and detect it with hdtoolbox.

As I said though, seems to be working now, and i dont know why. Got OS3.9 setup perfect, so ill not mess with it now.

Huezo · 13 August 2007, 18:45

I managed to format a 40GB drive in USB, worked like a charm.
Except.. as I partitioned it, got only around 5.3GB to use for my 3 partitions.
WB shows the same amount of space.

Should I be able to use full 40GB?
Latest WinUAE,
latest SFS,
kick3.1,
WB install3.1,
40GB 2.5"Toshiba in USB.

Toni Wilen · 13 August 2007, 21:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Huezo

I managed to format a 40GB drive in USB, worked like a charm.
Except.. as I partitioned it, got only around 5.3GB to use for my 3 partitions.
WB shows the same amount of space.

Should I be able to use full 40GB?
Latest WinUAE,
latest SFS,
kick3.1,
WB install3.1,
40GB 2.5"Toshiba in USB.

Easiest and safest solution: Update to OS3.5 or 3.9.

Non-safe solutions are already posted somewhere in this forum but I don't recommend them.

You NEED updated scsi.device driver which normally comes with OS3.5+ setpatch or you will lose your data or in best case partitions don't mount. (uaehf.device fully supports big drives but ROM built-in Amiga drivers won't without patching)

Huezo · 14 August 2007, 07:43

Well so I guess small boot partition and then after OS3.5+
one can use the other partitions without risk.

Dunno if right thread for OS question but.. maybe has something to do
with using the HDDs:
Whats in 3.9 compared to 3.5?
3.5 sold cheaply, can it be upgraded from Aminet etc. to be a 3.9?
Does 3.5 / 3.9 install CD from Germany include also English version?

(really used 3.0 and ffs with 1260 till 1998)

-Huezo

18 July 2007, 20:30	#41
spannernick Retro Nuts Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: London/UK Age: 53 Posts: 1,184	Can someone help me please..???? I don't know want to do. I can format the drive but i what to partion it as one drive first....HELP.. Last edited by spannernick; 18 July 2007 at 20:39.

11 August 2007, 16:19	#48
FOL PSPUAE DEV Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Wales / UK Age: 45 Posts: 5,999	Im, having this problem. Tried and tried and tried, still will not work, is there any way to get rid of the safety warning? its annoying. I have altered httoolbox to uaehf.device, I have only set the CF card as dh0: rebooted and rebooted, but everytime hdtool box does not see the drive fullstop. EDIT:- also drive safety check disable does not work. It did in last beta before 1.4.3. Bootlog, says its active, and not disabled even though i done the magic command line. Heres the bootlog, with check disabled. Notice how it says its ignored the drives. opening device '\\?\ide#diskhdt722525dlat80_________________________v44oa70a#5&214892f4&0&0.0.0#{53f56307-b6bf-11d0-94f2-00a0c91efb8b}' device id string: 'HDT722525DLAT80 V44OA70A' BytesPerSector=512 Cyls=30401 TracksPerCyl=255 SecsPerTrack=63 device size 250059350016 (0x3a38b2e000) bytes 4 MBR partitions found 0: num: 1 type: 07 offset: 32256 size: 20974431744, type not 0x76 1: num: 2 type: 07 offset: 20974464000 size: 104855869440, type not 0x76 2: num: 3 type: 07 offset: 125830333440 size: 124226403840, type not 0x76 non-empty MBR partition table detected, doing RDB check anyway hd ignored, not empty and no RDB detected opening device '\\?\usbstor#disk&ven_generic&prod_storage_device&rev_0128#01090&0#{53f56307-b6bf-11d0-94f2-00a0c91efb8b}' device id string: 'Generic STORAGE DEVICE 0128' BytesPerSector=512 Cyls=499 TracksPerCyl=255 SecsPerTrack=63 device size 4110188544 (0xf4fc8000) bytes 1 MBR partitions found 0: num: 1 type: 04 offset: 0 size: 4110188544, type not 0x76 non-empty MBR partition table detected, doing RDB check anyway hd ignored, not empty and no RDB detected opening device '\\?\usbstor#disk&ven_generic&prod_storage_device&rev_0128#01090&1#{53f56307-b6bf-11d0-94f2-00a0c91efb8b}' device id string: 'Generic STORAGE DEVICE 0128' IOCTL_DISK_GET_DRIVE_GEOMETRY failed with error code 21. Drive scan result: 2 Amiga formatted drives detected hfd open: 'HD_Generic STORAGE DEVICE 0128' FSCTL_ALLOW_EXTENDED_DASD_IO returned 1 hd ignored, not empty and no RDB detected Warning: The drive safety check has been disabled, and non-empty and non-RDB partitioned hard disk(s) were detected. HDF 'HD_Generic STORAGE DEVICE 0128' opened succesfully, handle=00000614, mode=1 close handle=00000614 Last edited by FOL; 11 August 2007 at 16:34.

11 August 2007, 16:57	#50
FOL PSPUAE DEV Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Wales / UK Age: 45 Posts: 5,999	Ermmm, you just repeated what i have already done, Everything you have put I have already done. It will not show the CF in HDToolBox, hence my problem. I could just go and partition it in my real Amiga, but that defeats the object of the function in WinUAE. EDIT:- Just tried again, and it worked first time, i have done nothing different from before. Bug maybe? EDIT2:- There is definately issues, I have setup RDB, then rebooted, now even though i can see partitions, HDtoolBox, will not see the CF again. There is definate issues with this feature. Last edited by FOL; 11 August 2007 at 17:10.

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18 July 2007, 20:57	#43
musashi5150 move.w #$4489,$dff07e Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Norfolk, UK Age: 42 Posts: 2,351	You need to get to where the HDToolBox icon is. Click it once and then choose "Icon->Information" from the RightMouse menu. You should then be able to type DEVICE=uaehf.device into the tooltypes part and save it. Hopefully you should then be able to run HDToolBox and prep your drive as required

18 July 2007, 21:03	#45
musashi5150 move.w #$4489,$dff07e Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Norfolk, UK Age: 42 Posts: 2,351	Just replace the scsi.device part I think... I'm on IRC if you need any help.

18 July 2007, 21:05	#46
spannernick Retro Nuts Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: London/UK Age: 53 Posts: 1,184	Done it thanks so very much matey.. It see it now..

18 July 2007, 21:06	#47
musashi5150 move.w #$4489,$dff07e Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Norfolk, UK Age: 42 Posts: 2,351	Glad to be of service... I had to do a similar thing with gvpscsi.device once

13 August 2007, 18:45	#53
Huezo Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Tupos&Oulu / Finland Age: 48 Posts: 35	I managed to format a 40GB drive in USB, worked like a charm. Except.. as I partitioned it, got only around 5.3GB to use for my 3 partitions. WB shows the same amount of space. Should I be able to use full 40GB? Latest WinUAE, latest SFS, kick3.1, WB install3.1, 40GB 2.5"Toshiba in USB.

14 August 2007, 07:43	#55
Huezo Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Tupos&Oulu / Finland Age: 48 Posts: 35	Well so I guess small boot partition and then after OS3.5+ one can use the other partitions without risk. Dunno if right thread for OS question but.. maybe has something to do with using the HDDs: Whats in 3.9 compared to 3.5? 3.5 sold cheaply, can it be upgraded from Aminet etc. to be a 3.9? Does 3.5 / 3.9 install CD from Germany include also English version? (really used 3.0 and ffs with 1260 till 1998) -Huezo

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