Siamese system

utri007 · 10 February 2006, 10:21

It really sounds interesting.

http://www.users.dircon.co.uk/~pnolan/siamese.html

Latest update is 1997 and link to main page goes to weird anythig to anyone page.

Has anyone tried siamese RTG does it work and can I get OpenGL and other things with it??

Does it work through LAN???

_ThEcRoW · 10 February 2006, 13:12

Yes it can work trought lan, more speedy that serial cable.
When finished my cable i will post here my results on the rtg issue.

_ThEcRoW · 10 February 2006, 13:14

And yes, i forgot to say that rtg and opengl works like a charm!!!. The amiga is capable of use the pc graphics card performance, as well as the system main ram and hard drives. So it will end as a really killer Amiga!!!

utri007 · 10 February 2006, 14:00

Any change to upload it to zone ?

keropi · 10 February 2006, 14:49

I think it also needs a card or something... there is a pic of an ISA??? or zorro card on the site...

alexh · 10 February 2006, 15:20

It doesnt need the card. And it's actually quicker if you can use the SCSI network rather than ethernet.

_ThEcRoW · 10 February 2006, 15:52

Yes, like Alexh said, there is no need of hardware dongle or card on the latest version.
As for the uploading to the zone, i'm not sure, because i think it's a non free program, and still it's copyrighted.

Methanoid · 10 February 2006, 16:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by _ThEcRoW

Yes, like Alexh said, there is no need of hardware dongle or card on the latest version.
As for the uploading to the zone, i'm not sure, because i think it's a non free program, and still it's copyrighted.

No more so than the games that get uploaded into the Zone. If Paul Nolan expected/wanted to make any money out of it don't you think he would still have Photogenics.co.uk up and "running" ??

Whack it in the zone my good man!

woody57 · 10 February 2006, 16:35

Gosh Methanoid you snuck in before me

Obviously you seem the man for the job

It will be yet another one to TRY & find the copywrite holder of as there seem to be no LIVE weblinks to the company who were developing it.

The last reports were over their attempts to take "pre-orders" for a v4 PCI RTG board as reported in http://www.cucug.org/amiga/aminews/1...4-siamese.html

And that was 1998 .....Nothing since ! As for its value outside of intergrating an amiga & a PC in the SAME tower as opposed to being conected via ethernet...I don't know if it's worth the e-mail & papertrail to chase it

Any volanteers ???

alexh · 10 February 2006, 16:59

It is still available, although I doubt Paul or Steve get any of the money nowadays.

http://www.softhut.com/cgi-bin/test/...=8713412_31026

$35

I am almost sure this is the 2.5 version.

keropi · 10 February 2006, 22:24

so, someone zone it????

adolescent · 11 February 2006, 02:08

I have it, but since it uses a dongle on the PC side it won't do you much good. (Unless you're handy at cracking Sentinel dongle protection).

_ThEcRoW · 11 February 2006, 02:50

Latest version works without dongle or pci car dof any type. That card was supposed to produce, but due to lack of funds, they released only the soft.
Sad.

utri007 · 12 February 2006, 21:01

I really would like to see this give atry to it, and if it actually works i buy it if it's actually availlable somewhere

alexh · 12 February 2006, 21:20

It does work. Now buy it

utri007 · 12 February 2006, 21:45

Is there a demo somewhre, I woun't buy anthing to my amiga before i see that works.

Newer managet to get etc. whdload work so that it could have any use 99% of games crashes after 30 seconds.

FromWithin · 12 February 2006, 22:41

I've got the hardware board for monitor switching. It was so useful. The Windows software doesn't work on 2000/XP though. I once mailed Paul Nolan for the source code to see if I could get it going, but never got a reply.

utri007 · 12 February 2006, 22:52

Seems that there is no support for siamese system and software is not availlable from maker of it.

Allmoust every game and software for amiga is availlable comercially somewhere.

And is allso possible that siamese doesn't work with OS 3.5 / 3.9 can anyone confirm that?

http://experts.about.com/q/Amiga-Pro...se-OS3-5-3.htm

I would like heard some information more, how is performance in games etc

alexh · 12 February 2006, 22:55

If you cannot even get WHDload to work, you aint going to be able to setup Siamese.

Performance in games? It's an RTG solution... if the game doesnt support RTG chances are it wont work. As all games that support RTG are rubbish (well they are!) then this is of no use to a gamer.

Main use... Workbench and workbench apps that are RTG compliant at gfx card resolutions with an accelerated Amiga with ethernet.

keropi · 12 February 2006, 23:50

napalm that supports rtg is not rubbish...
other than that I cannot think of any other... lol
ports do not count!

either way, it seems a strange solution, u need 2 machines running, cables, software on both sides... how is perfomance? better than a pci busboard?
and how does it redirect gfx? though lan? is it enough?

10 February 2006, 10:21	#1
utri007 mä vaan Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Finland Posts: 1,653	Siamese system It really sounds interesting. http://www.users.dircon.co.uk/~pnolan/siamese.html Latest update is 1997 and link to main page goes to weird anythig to anyone page. Has anyone tried siamese RTG does it work and can I get OpenGL and other things with it?? Does it work through LAN???

10 February 2006, 14:00	#4
utri007 mä vaan Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Finland Posts: 1,653	software Any change to upload it to zone ?

12 February 2006, 21:01	#14
utri007 mä vaan Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Finland Posts: 1,653	really interesting I really would like to see this give atry to it, and if it actually works i buy it if it's actually availlable somewhere

12 February 2006, 22:55	#19
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,344	If you cannot even get WHDload to work, you aint going to be able to setup Siamese. Performance in games? It's an RTG solution... if the game doesnt support RTG chances are it wont work. As all games that support RTG are rubbish (well they are!) then this is of no use to a gamer. Main use... Workbench and workbench apps that are RTG compliant at gfx card resolutions with an accelerated Amiga with ethernet. Last edited by alexh; 12 February 2006 at 23:01.

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10 February 2006, 13:12	#2
_ThEcRoW Amiga NetRunner Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Spain Age: 45 Posts: 941	Yes it can work trought lan, more speedy that serial cable. When finished my cable i will post here my results on the rtg issue.

10 February 2006, 13:14	#3
_ThEcRoW Amiga NetRunner Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Spain Age: 45 Posts: 941	And yes, i forgot to say that rtg and opengl works like a charm!!!. The amiga is capable of use the pc graphics card performance, as well as the system main ram and hard drives. So it will end as a really killer Amiga!!!

10 February 2006, 14:49	#5
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,040	I think it also needs a card or something... there is a pic of an ISA??? or zorro card on the site...

10 February 2006, 15:20	#6
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,344	It doesnt need the card. And it's actually quicker if you can use the SCSI network rather than ethernet.

10 February 2006, 15:52	#7
_ThEcRoW Amiga NetRunner Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Spain Age: 45 Posts: 941	Yes, like Alexh said, there is no need of hardware dongle or card on the latest version. As for the uploading to the zone, i'm not sure, because i think it's a non free program, and still it's copyrighted.

10 February 2006, 16:35	#9
woody57 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Manchester Posts: 801	Gosh Methanoid you snuck in before me Obviously you seem the man for the job It will be yet another one to TRY & find the copywrite holder of as there seem to be no LIVE weblinks to the company who were developing it. The last reports were over their attempts to take "pre-orders" for a v4 PCI RTG board as reported in http://www.cucug.org/amiga/aminews/1...4-siamese.html And that was 1998 .....Nothing since ! As for its value outside of intergrating an amiga & a PC in the SAME tower as opposed to being conected via ethernet...I don't know if it's worth the e-mail & papertrail to chase it Any volanteers ???

10 February 2006, 16:59	#10
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,344	It is still available, although I doubt Paul or Steve get any of the money nowadays. http://www.softhut.com/cgi-bin/test/...=8713412_31026 $35 I am almost sure this is the 2.5 version.

10 February 2006, 22:24	#11
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,040	so, someone zone it????

11 February 2006, 02:08	#12
adolescent Powered by Motorola Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Redondo Beach, CA Age: 52 Posts: 1,065	I have it, but since it uses a dongle on the PC side it won't do you much good. (Unless you're handy at cracking Sentinel dongle protection).

11 February 2006, 02:50	#13
_ThEcRoW Amiga NetRunner Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Spain Age: 45 Posts: 941	Latest version works without dongle or pci car dof any type. That card was supposed to produce, but due to lack of funds, they released only the soft. Sad.

12 February 2006, 21:20	#15
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,344	It does work. Now buy it

12 February 2006, 21:45	#16
utri007 mä vaan Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Finland Posts: 1,653	Is there a demo somewhre, I woun't buy anthing to my amiga before i see that works. Newer managet to get etc. whdload work so that it could have any use 99% of games crashes after 30 seconds.

12 February 2006, 22:41	#17
FromWithin Music lord Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Liverpool, UK Age: 50 Posts: 630	I've got the hardware board for monitor switching. It was so useful. The Windows software doesn't work on 2000/XP though. I once mailed Paul Nolan for the source code to see if I could get it going, but never got a reply.

12 February 2006, 22:52	#18
utri007 mä vaan Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Finland Posts: 1,653	Seems that there is no support for siamese system and software is not availlable from maker of it. Allmoust every game and software for amiga is availlable comercially somewhere. And is allso possible that siamese doesn't work with OS 3.5 / 3.9 can anyone confirm that? http://experts.about.com/q/Amiga-Pro...se-OS3-5-3.htm I would like heard some information more, how is performance in games etc

12 February 2006, 23:50	#20
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,040	napalm that supports rtg is not rubbish... other than that I cannot think of any other... lol ports do not count! either way, it seems a strange solution, u need 2 machines running, cables, software on both sides... how is perfomance? better than a pci busboard? and how does it redirect gfx? though lan? is it enough?

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