Flying Shark new Amiga port [was: Going to Drop this here :)]

[Tsak]

Originally Posted by Bren McGuire

i think it sounds out of tune because the chords have no depth to them or something like they are mising notes also the tunes are much slower use this as reference for level one
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The current track is slower indeed and it does misses some chord elements. Also the instruments sound more muddy and in regards to notation I do hear some stuff that could be further corrected. However I do not hear any major issues with tunning per se. In any case I plan to visit the track at some point and see if I can do any corrections.

Despite the above, I still think Simone has done a pretty decent job. There is a good foundation there already to take this track even closer to the arcade. Though I sense many don't actually like the original arcade tune that much.

[saimon69]

Am not aiming to accurate recreation, is simply impossible with three channels only and a max of 80k per songs (no, Magnus is not going to use the remix routine, i asked him in the past) and so i used a tenth chord C-E-G-A-C to save space and have a "feel" of the chords rather than the real chords.

At the end the purpose was to have a "feel" of playing the arcade without all the accuracy of an arcade port, a similar approach to 8 bit ports. Arkanoid and Ghosts'n'Goblins were not accurate to the sound but are killer ports in example.

[saimon69]

And, by the way, when i do the soundtrack, i assume already that the sound effects are in place, because a proper arcade feeling is given by music plus sound effects; the proper effects are not in place yet though

[dlfrsilver]

Originally Posted by Tsak

There are quite many enemies on screen, a ton of projectiles, two independent tileset layers sandwiched in-between (see all those tanks moving under the trees and buildings f.e.?), plus it is an 8-way scroller. And still the game manages to run 50fps on a vanilla a500.

So yes. 16 colors are obligatory. Imho even so it's still quite a miracle the game performs like that. Others would have gone with dual playfield or do other massive cuts to get similar results.

Ok, so it's a game that is better suited for Amiga 1200 then.

[saimon69]

Originally Posted by dlfrsilver

Ok, so it's a game that is better suited for Amiga 1200 then.

Disagree: is a game that pushes the hardware of the 500 and the skills of those that make it, like in the old times; to get the best of what you have got there.

[saimon69]

Cannot show anything yet but work is proceeding - in example now bunkers are properly broken

[dlfrsilver]

Originally Posted by saimon69

Disagree: is a game that pushes the hardware of the 500 and the skills of those that make it, like in the old times; to get the best of what you have got there.

Ok, but then it means that the 1200 could have more colors

[saimon69]

ARE more colors needed?
"At my times we only had eight colors in two shades and no more than two per 8x8 tile...." (speccy old user rant)

Jokes aside what Tsak did is excellent, and even my own reduction before it was decent - a good choice of palette and changes every stage can remedy to that - for the likes of a 1200 i would defnitely try to port Truxton

[Tsak]

Anyone here knows how to rip all sfx from the original arcade (or can rip them and share)?

[saimon69]

Originally Posted by Tsak

Anyone here knows how to rip all sfx from the original arcade (or can rip them and share)?

Been there done that, and got the "nope" t-shirt -_-
I think even sound effects from Twin Cobra or Truxton might be good - most are the same

[CCCP alert]

Originally Posted by saimon69

Been there done that, and got the "nope" t-shirt -_-
I think even sound effects from Twin Cobra or Truxton might be good - most are the same

Yeah, I always wondered how they ripped the music and sfx from arcade games and never really got an explanation how it's done. I assumed MAME/MAME ROMs are part of the process but the whole thing is shrouded in mystery for me too.

[saimon69]

Originally Posted by CCCP alert

Yeah, I always wondered how they ripped the music and sfx from arcade games and never really got an explanation how it's done. I assumed MAME/MAME ROMs are part of the process but the whole thing is shrouded in mystery for me too.

In one of those arcade music web sites i remember i read this was an unhackable rom that was decapped and read in the circuits but i might be wrong

[Toni Galvez]

J.M.D., are you still using Milkytracker to convert the samples and compose the modules?

[hitchhikr]

Anyone here knows how to rip all sfx from the original arcade (or can rip them and share)?

You may want to check this:

https://rbelmont.mameworld.info/?page_id=223

[Tsak]

Originally Posted by hitchhikr

You may want to check this:

https://rbelmont.mameworld.info/?page_id=223

Hey, thanks a lot
This is perfect!!

[Rob68K]

Did this ever get finished?

[Tsak]

Originally Posted by Rob68K

Did this ever get finished?

It is ongoing. There soon will be a public demo of level 1. We're currently polishing it.

[Bren McGuire]

i hope it includes good music this time

[Rob68K]

Originally Posted by Tsak

It is ongoing. There soon will be a public demo of level 1. We're currently polishing it.

That's great. I'm very much looking forward to seeing it.

[Rob68K]

Originally Posted by Bren McGuire

i hope it includes good music this time

It couldn't possibly be worse.