Most FRUSTRATING Amiga game ever!!!!!!!! - Page 6

fc.studio · 01 September 2007, 16:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by danwood

On the amiga 500 which i bought just before leaving school i remember kick off 2 and would play with friends after school, i remember being really annoyed at that when my opponent danced around my defence and tapped the fire button really gently sending the ball trickling under my keeper. I remember screaming and wailing 'crap control system' and seeing the smug look on his face made me furious i never hit my amiga 500 though.

Kick Off 2 has not a "crap control system". I know this is not easy to play. No glue at your feet to trap the ball makes it difficoult and brilliant in the same time. Running with the ball must be no easy like in real soccer. However with practice you would find out that it has a very good control allowing medium level players to perform nearly everything. You can start/stop running with ball (No in Sensible Soccer), you can perform dribbling, perfect passing (back passing too) to every team mate, head the ball... I spent night hours on playing it against friends. Goal, the real Kick Off 2 sequel, introduced acceleration and deceleration to players and little more for control. In my opinion GOAL IS TODAY THE STATE OF THE ART as concernig soccer games. Kick Off fans learn how to play it in minutes, but they can spend the eternity to master it. FANTASTIC.

Today you can find (check the web) periodicals international Kick Off 2 tournment.

Yolanda is what I thik a frustrating and crap game.

P-J · 01 September 2007, 17:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by fc.studio

Kick Off 2 has not a "crap control system". I know this is not easy to play. No glue at your feet to trap the ball makes it difficoult and brilliant in the same time.

I disagree. Sensible Soccer does the 'no glue' thing and it's a much better control system than Kick Off 2. It's not the sticking to your feet thing, it's just that Kick Off 2 control system is easy to hate.

...and easy to like, I know.

fc.studio · 01 September 2007, 19:49

I liked Sensible Soccer, but I have to admit I did not spend much time on it.
I think it is a very good arcade game, Kick Off (and Goal more) are nearly simulation.

Answer me about Sensible Soccer. I remember this but I could be wrong:

- Are you able to reach the ball and stop player upon and defend it? (Kick Off Yes)
- Are you able to miss the ball? (Kick Off Yes, Sensible auto-drives the nearest player to ball)
- Are you able to pass the ball in every direction "behind" included? (Kick Off Yes).
- Are you able to run with the ball and decide (with it) to decelerate, accelerate, stop, dribbling during deceleration, dribbling during acceleration, dribbling on re-start? (Goal Yes).

I agree Kick Off system control isn't easy and take much more time, but with it you can perform much more actions than Sensi. Obviously it's more difficoult, but this is not bad: You love it when you know it.
Sensible Soccer has nicer gfx, nicer sound and everyone can play it. Kick Off/Goal NO.

P-J · 01 September 2007, 22:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by fc.studio

- Are you able to reach the ball and stop player upon and defend it? (Kick Off Yes)

Yes, to some extent.

Quote:

Originally Posted by fc.studio

- Are you able to miss the ball? (Kick Off Yes, Sensible auto-drives the nearest player to ball)

No it doesn't, it only passes if you hold the button for a moment. So the answer to the question is yes.

Quote:

Originally Posted by fc.studio

- Are you able to pass the ball in every direction "behind" included? (Kick Off Yes).

No, but it's still a great game for it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by fc.studio

- Are you able to run with the ball and decide (with it) to decelerate, accelerate, stop, dribbling during deceleration, dribbling during acceleration, dribbling on re-start? (Goal Yes).

No, but it's still a great game for it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by fc.studio

I agree Kick Off system control isn't easy and take much more time, but with it you can perform much more actions than Sensi. Obviously it's more difficoult, but this is not bad: You love it when you know it.
Sensible Soccer has nicer gfx, nicer sound and everyone can play it. Kick Off/Goal NO.

I never said it wasn't better, or less technical, I just said the control system is easy to hate. By your reasoning that means Microprose Soccer is one of the best football games ever since you can answer YES to all of your questions.

BTW, Goal is not Kick Off 2. In my opinion it's a much better game.

Graham Humphrey · 01 September 2007, 22:10

I so hope this thread doesn't turn into a KO2/Goal vs Sensi debate

P-J · 01 September 2007, 22:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Graham Humphrey

I so hope this thread doesn't turn into a KO2/Goal vs Sensi debate

Course you do, motherfucker

caffeinekid · 02 September 2007, 01:09

Yolanda was INSANE

danwood · 02 September 2007, 13:01

i never played sensi. im not saying kick off 2 is bad i played it for years on and off, its just really frustrating.

Marcuz · 02 September 2007, 13:44

cool and frustrating games:

Rockford
Chuckie Egg II
Cybernoyd (2?)
Rise of the Dragon

Abandoned Places was not so much frustrating because it was such a bad game that after spending some evening trying to figure it, i drop it. but it has been 100% frustration for those evenings.

Graham Humphrey · 02 September 2007, 14:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by marco pedrana

Cybernoyd (2?)

The second Cybernoid was incredibly difficult. The first one was challenging but at least you had a chance of getting somewhere in it.

Marcuz · 02 September 2007, 14:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Graham Humphrey

The second Cybernoid was incredibly difficult. The first one was challenging but at least you had a chance of getting somewhere in it.

yes, definitely the second, the one with Mark Jones' graphics

rsn8887 · 03 September 2007, 00:05

Blob (http://hol.abime.net/148) is also pretty damn frustrating.

Graham Humphrey · 03 September 2007, 08:33

I must admit I don't find it particularly frustrating... it gets quite difficult later on but it doesn't really frustrate me.

zenox98 · 04 September 2007, 22:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Graham Humphrey

I so hope this thread doesn't turn into a KO2/Goal vs Sensi debate

Sensible Soccer by far

ancalimon · 29 January 2008, 09:04

Aztec Challenge I remember trying to finish that game on my C64 with my sister. I saw it in my dreams trying to dodge the spears and escape from piranhas. I found an Amiga remake and couldn't pass the first level! I deleted it from my hard drive. OOOOOH THE NIGHTMARES!!!

NLS · 29 January 2008, 22:24

Aztec Challenge was great.

I knew some company attempted a port to Amiga but didn't release it, so where did you find it?

I think there is a public domain port for PC now.

DamienD · 29 January 2008, 22:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by NLS

I knew some company attempted a port to Amiga but didn't release it, so where did you find it?

The only Aztec Challenge I know for the Amiga is the conversion by Bignonia: http://hol.abime.net/4856

I can upload these to The Zone! if you like?

... Aztec Challenge (1993-05)(Bignonia)(PD)[C64 conversion].zip
... Aztec Challenge (1993-05)(Bignonia)(PD)[KS2.0, C64 conversion].zip

NLS · 29 January 2008, 22:48

ah thanks, seems I already have those

(TOSEC)
maybe up them if someone else wants those?

anyway, I was confused with the PC remake...

http://flashdrivefreak.wordpress.com...remake-for-pc/

MazinKaesar · 30 January 2008, 00:01

Well, I ever found hell difficult any game from Team17, excepts for Alien Breed 3D (the second was damn hard to play, as he the 2D previous games).

klx300r · 30 January 2008, 00:16

the later missions of Cannon Fodder were soooo bloody hard...they still get my blood boiling

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01 September 2007, 19:49	#103
fc.studio Cat lover Join Date: May 2004 Location: Italy Age: 54 Posts: 804	I liked Sensible Soccer, but I have to admit I did not spend much time on it. I think it is a very good arcade game, Kick Off (and Goal more) are nearly simulation. Answer me about Sensible Soccer. I remember this but I could be wrong: - Are you able to reach the ball and stop player upon and defend it? (Kick Off Yes) - Are you able to miss the ball? (Kick Off Yes, Sensible auto-drives the nearest player to ball) - Are you able to pass the ball in every direction "behind" included? (Kick Off Yes). - Are you able to run with the ball and decide (with it) to decelerate, accelerate, stop, dribbling during deceleration, dribbling during acceleration, dribbling on re-start? (Goal Yes). I agree Kick Off system control isn't easy and take much more time, but with it you can perform much more actions than Sensi. Obviously it's more difficoult, but this is not bad: You love it when you know it. Sensible Soccer has nicer gfx, nicer sound and everyone can play it. Kick Off/Goal NO.

01 September 2007, 22:10	#105
Graham Humphrey Moderator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Norwich, Norfolk, UK Age: 37 Posts: 11,167	I so hope this thread doesn't turn into a KO2/Goal vs Sensi debate

02 September 2007, 01:09	#107
caffeinekid Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Wakefield, UK Age: 53 Posts: 72	Yolanda was INSANE

02 September 2007, 13:01	#108
danwood Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: oldham/england Posts: 75	i never played sensi. im not saying kick off 2 is bad i played it for years on and off, its just really frustrating.

02 September 2007, 13:44	#109
Marcuz Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: . Age: 48 Posts: 5,562	cool and frustrating games: Rockford Chuckie Egg II Cybernoyd (2?) Rise of the Dragon Abandoned Places was not so much frustrating because it was such a bad game that after spending some evening trying to figure it, i drop it. but it has been 100% frustration for those evenings.

03 September 2007, 00:05	#112
rsn8887 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: USA Posts: 1,059	Blob (http://hol.abime.net/148) is also pretty damn frustrating.

03 September 2007, 08:33	#113
Graham Humphrey Moderator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Norwich, Norfolk, UK Age: 37 Posts: 11,167	I must admit I don't find it particularly frustrating... it gets quite difficult later on but it doesn't really frustrate me.

29 January 2008, 09:04	#115
ancalimon Supernormal Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Istanbul / Turkey Age: 43 Posts: 1,413	Aztec Challenge I remember trying to finish that game on my C64 with my sister. I saw it in my dreams trying to dodge the spears and escape from piranhas. I found an Amiga remake and couldn't pass the first level! I deleted it from my hard drive. OOOOOH THE NIGHTMARES!!!

29 January 2008, 22:24	#116
NLS Ancient User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: GREECE Age: 50 Posts: 758	Aztec Challenge was great. I knew some company attempted a port to Amiga but didn't release it, so where did you find it? I think there is a public domain port for PC now.

29 January 2008, 22:48	#118
NLS Ancient User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: GREECE Age: 50 Posts: 758	ah thanks, seems I already have those (TOSEC) maybe up them if someone else wants those? anyway, I was confused with the PC remake... http://flashdrivefreak.wordpress.com...remake-for-pc/

30 January 2008, 00:01	#119
MazinKaesar Super Robot Pilot Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Modena (Italy) Age: 49 Posts: 870	Well, I ever found hell difficult any game from Team17, excepts for Alien Breed 3D (the second was damn hard to play, as he the 2D previous games).

30 January 2008, 00:16	#120
klx300r Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ManCave, Canada Posts: 1,615	the later missions of Cannon Fodder were soooo bloody hard...they still get my blood boiling

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