ClassicWB for OS39 - Page 5

webmany · 01 May 2008, 23:54

I am getting the following errors when I try to install:

Can't open C/SetENV - Object not found
C/WBRun
WBStartup/ASyncMB
WBStartup/BenchTrash

webmany · 02 May 2008, 00:22

missing boing bags, never mind

webmany · 02 May 2008, 05:11

Here is what I get. I install a fresh copy of 3.9, install both boing bags and then run run the installer from the 3.9 install file. On reboot it complains about a missing setpatch. Looks like it was never copied over. Once copied over I get:
Wait: Unknown command

Still working on getting it to boot.

This is on a A1200 with IDEFix.

webmany · 02 May 2008, 05:32

Found out what is happening. The install files were on DH2, but the install script is copying the files to DH1.

prart · 25 May 2008, 11:42

Bloodwych, any updates?

Bloodwych · 26 May 2008, 18:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by prart

Bloodwych, any updates?

There was a new Beta released and is available via pm if you're interested. From above post no. 68:

http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=408846&postcount=68

Not been working on a final version at the moment as I'm very busy. The final version will be very similar to the beta, but with a better install routine for OS3.9 and hopefully full support for OS3.5 as well.

rave · 26 May 2008, 19:42

Awesome work there Bloodwych

I love your packs, and would certainly love a 3.5 one for my 030/40/8MB A1500!!!

You rock

TheCorfiot · 30 May 2008, 09:17

Well OS3.9 Classic Workbench is now running on my A2000,

Bloodwych awesome indeed.

The only update I had to manually do was copy over cachecdfs from OS3.9 BB2 to the CWB L directory & the CD0 file with the cachecdfs definitions.

Runs fine. & looks really good.

Thanks B for all your efforts..

Anyone tried installing CWB with OS3.5 as DH0: does the script work??

Bloodwych · 30 May 2008, 10:28

No problem TheCorfiot, thanks for some feedback.

It's a little rough around the edges - could do with one more going over I think, a few additions to the menus etc and of course a proper install script.

Still, even in this beta stage, it's a great starting place for anyone wanting to get a good jump on a fresh OS39 install rather than start from scratch.

TheCorfiot · 04 June 2008, 14:32

@Bloodwych

Further Testing update.

Since installed on my A2000, It's now my OS of choice,,, no further bugs or issues found....

If we could have a similar pack that would accept an OS3.5 partition for install to the same std as the OS3.9 CWB Beta.. ie 3.5 CWB then
That would be all angles & users covered.

Superb work (as always) and again thanks for your comitment to the Amiga, I use my A2000 more than ever now...

Cheers

Bloodwych · 06 October 2008, 17:53

Just a development update.

Been having a chip away at this today with the theme being maximum usability, adaptability and customization left open to the end user. As with all the ClassicWB packs, this is meant to be a default install with the end user adding their personal touches.

All packs, including this one, can now enable/disable most components and patches like the Copper Background (now integrated), AntiClick, IconBeFast etc.

In the OS39 version, AmiDock and TinyMeter can also be enabled/disabled too so the end user has maximum choice over components.

TinyMeter can also be used as a Launch tool if you choose to use it that way (like in AmigaSYS). The Run icon that brings up ButtonMenu remains however as in Safe/Maxmem mode, it allows things to be launched without opening Windows and is just too darn useful!

Not sure when the next beta will be available, but just to let you know I do work on this occasionally! Let's hope for an xmas

release!

TheCorfiot · 06 October 2008, 23:26

@Bloodwych

Thank you very much for the update, I can't wait, It gets better & better
Still my Workbench of choice, & looks fab with the Indivision.

Look forward to the next Beta

TC

Kristian95 · 07 October 2008, 03:43

wow sounds great Bloodwych

thanks a bunch for all the work you put into this

keropi · 07 October 2008, 07:21

awesome!

trackah123 · 07 October 2008, 13:23

Hello.

Great work Bloodwych

I'm waiting for my Kickstart 3.1 ROM and EasyADF update i ordered from amigakit.com.

Right now i have an Amiga 1200 020 with 3.0 ROM , 40GB Harddisk and an Amitek 4MB fastram memory expansion. It's still pretty much stock.

1 : Does this all work when i replace my Kickstart 3.1 when i install OS3.9 + ClassicWB?

I mean that would be awesome the latest workbench and kickstart + latest ClassicWB. I think that would be like the latest native 68k installation

2 : btw is there an addon card that goes in trapdoor expansion on bottom side of a1200 that upgrades all of the following? "ram, cpu, fpu, gfx"

My goal is actually to have the latest m68k architecture A1200 (so no PPC, i386) stuff because that just doesnt feel Amiga anymore to me.

Bloodwych · 07 October 2008, 14:54

As long as you have 3.1 ROMS, this will Work fine on a A1200 with an 020 and some Fastram (at least 4MB). It won't run as fast or well as the ClassicWB 3.0/1 versions however, which for me are the true nostalgia Workbenches.

As for expansion boards, there is a website that lists every expansion ever made for an Amiga, but I don't know the link. Just happened to catch it in a thread one time.

Trapdoor expansions are the in-thing for A1200 users! The best in my opinion is a Blizzard 030, but you can get cards with 040's and 060's. Even PPC, but you don't want that. Graphics are a little more tricky. Not sure what the options are available for A1200 users. I'd rather stick to the native chipset anyway.

trackah123 · 07 October 2008, 17:23

Thanks for the info. I think i know which website you mean

http://www.amiga-hardware.com/

Maybe i'll take a Blizzard then. if it runs too slow. and otherwise ill try wb3.1 + ClassicWB instead of wb3.9.

Bloodwych · 08 October 2008, 17:08

That's the site.

With a Blizzard 030 OS3.9 will run fine. It's just a little slow on 020's and a tad heavy on memory.

The reason I like the 030 expansions is they're really compatible, have very few issues and of course run cool in that tight trapdoor.

You can give all versions a try in WinUAE anyway - AmigaSYS, ClassicWB 3.0/1 3.9 and see what you think. You can slow WinUAE down by getting rid of JIT and using the CPU slider, so you get a rough estimate of how fast each setup is on a real Amiga.

Another thing that affects your choice is what display you'll be using. If it's a TV resolution (640x256), then the ClassicWB FULL is the way to go!

Dexther · 08 October 2008, 22:26

Umm just in time for my REAL AMIGA 1200 on New Rom 3.1
In this week arrival the rom end you "classic Wb os3.9" running in my amiga 1200 (on are apollo 030 at 45mhz)

trackah123 · 10 October 2008, 19:23

Hey bloodwych.

Just wanted to ask, how is your progress on the ClassicWB for OS3.9? is it still beta or do you have a final-package for it?

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06 October 2008, 17:53	#91
Bloodwych Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: I'm behind you! Posts: 3,763	Just a development update. Been having a chip away at this today with the theme being maximum usability, adaptability and customization left open to the end user. As with all the ClassicWB packs, this is meant to be a default install with the end user adding their personal touches. All packs, including this one, can now enable/disable most components and patches like the Copper Background (now integrated), AntiClick, IconBeFast etc. In the OS39 version, AmiDock and TinyMeter can also be enabled/disabled too so the end user has maximum choice over components. TinyMeter can also be used as a Launch tool if you choose to use it that way (like in AmigaSYS). The Run icon that brings up ButtonMenu remains however as in Safe/Maxmem mode, it allows things to be launched without opening Windows and is just too darn useful! Not sure when the next beta will be available, but just to let you know I do work on this occasionally! Let's hope for an xmas release! Attached Thumbnails

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01 May 2008, 23:54	#81
webmany Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Oakbank, Canada Posts: 85	I am getting the following errors when I try to install: Can't open C/SetENV - Object not found C/WBRun WBStartup/ASyncMB WBStartup/BenchTrash

02 May 2008, 00:22	#82
webmany Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Oakbank, Canada Posts: 85	missing boing bags, never mind

02 May 2008, 05:11	#83
webmany Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Oakbank, Canada Posts: 85	Here is what I get. I install a fresh copy of 3.9, install both boing bags and then run run the installer from the 3.9 install file. On reboot it complains about a missing setpatch. Looks like it was never copied over. Once copied over I get: Wait: Unknown command Still working on getting it to boot. This is on a A1200 with IDEFix.

02 May 2008, 05:32	#84
webmany Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Oakbank, Canada Posts: 85	Found out what is happening. The install files were on DH2, but the install script is copying the files to DH1.

25 May 2008, 11:42	#85
prart Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: somewhere Posts: 57	Bloodwych, any updates?

26 May 2008, 19:42	#87
rave Amiga's made me who I am. Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Nottingham UK Age: 44 Posts: 178	Awesome work there Bloodwych I love your packs, and would certainly love a 3.5 one for my 030/40/8MB A1500!!! You rock

30 May 2008, 09:17	#88
TheCorfiot Amibay Senior Staff Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Cardiff / Wales Posts: 1,302	Well OS3.9 Classic Workbench is now running on my A2000, Bloodwych awesome indeed. The only update I had to manually do was copy over cachecdfs from OS3.9 BB2 to the CWB L directory & the CD0 file with the cachecdfs definitions. Runs fine. & looks really good. Thanks B for all your efforts.. Anyone tried installing CWB with OS3.5 as DH0: does the script work??

30 May 2008, 10:28	#89
Bloodwych Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: I'm behind you! Posts: 3,763	No problem TheCorfiot, thanks for some feedback. It's a little rough around the edges - could do with one more going over I think, a few additions to the menus etc and of course a proper install script. Still, even in this beta stage, it's a great starting place for anyone wanting to get a good jump on a fresh OS39 install rather than start from scratch.

04 June 2008, 14:32	#90
TheCorfiot Amibay Senior Staff Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Cardiff / Wales Posts: 1,302	@Bloodwych Further Testing update. Since installed on my A2000, It's now my OS of choice,,, no further bugs or issues found.... If we could have a similar pack that would accept an OS3.5 partition for install to the same std as the OS3.9 CWB Beta.. ie 3.5 CWB then That would be all angles & users covered. Superb work (as always) and again thanks for your comitment to the Amiga, I use my A2000 more than ever now... Cheers

06 October 2008, 23:26	#92
TheCorfiot Amibay Senior Staff Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Cardiff / Wales Posts: 1,302	@Bloodwych Thank you very much for the update, I can't wait, It gets better & better Still my Workbench of choice, & looks fab with the Indivision. Look forward to the next Beta TC

07 October 2008, 07:21	#94
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,040	awesome!

07 October 2008, 03:43	#93
Kristian95 A4000T owner :) Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: California, USA Age: 49 Posts: 498	wow sounds great Bloodwych thanks a bunch for all the work you put into this

07 October 2008, 13:23	#95
trackah123 Amiga User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Delft / The Netherlands Posts: 327	Hello. Great work Bloodwych I'm waiting for my Kickstart 3.1 ROM and EasyADF update i ordered from amigakit.com. Right now i have an Amiga 1200 020 with 3.0 ROM , 40GB Harddisk and an Amitek 4MB fastram memory expansion. It's still pretty much stock. 1 : Does this all work when i replace my Kickstart 3.1 when i install OS3.9 + ClassicWB? I mean that would be awesome the latest workbench and kickstart + latest ClassicWB. I think that would be like the latest native 68k installation 2 : btw is there an addon card that goes in trapdoor expansion on bottom side of a1200 that upgrades all of the following? "ram, cpu, fpu, gfx" My goal is actually to have the latest m68k architecture A1200 (so no PPC, i386) stuff because that just doesnt feel Amiga anymore to me.

07 October 2008, 14:54	#96
Bloodwych Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: I'm behind you! Posts: 3,763	As long as you have 3.1 ROMS, this will Work fine on a A1200 with an 020 and some Fastram (at least 4MB). It won't run as fast or well as the ClassicWB 3.0/1 versions however, which for me are the true nostalgia Workbenches. As for expansion boards, there is a website that lists every expansion ever made for an Amiga, but I don't know the link. Just happened to catch it in a thread one time. Trapdoor expansions are the in-thing for A1200 users! The best in my opinion is a Blizzard 030, but you can get cards with 040's and 060's. Even PPC, but you don't want that. Graphics are a little more tricky. Not sure what the options are available for A1200 users. I'd rather stick to the native chipset anyway.

07 October 2008, 17:23	#97
trackah123 Amiga User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Delft / The Netherlands Posts: 327	Thanks for the info. I think i know which website you mean http://www.amiga-hardware.com/ Maybe i'll take a Blizzard then. if it runs too slow. and otherwise ill try wb3.1 + ClassicWB instead of wb3.9.

08 October 2008, 17:08	#98
Bloodwych Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: I'm behind you! Posts: 3,763	That's the site. With a Blizzard 030 OS3.9 will run fine. It's just a little slow on 020's and a tad heavy on memory. The reason I like the 030 expansions is they're really compatible, have very few issues and of course run cool in that tight trapdoor. You can give all versions a try in WinUAE anyway - AmigaSYS, ClassicWB 3.0/1 3.9 and see what you think. You can slow WinUAE down by getting rid of JIT and using the CPU slider, so you get a rough estimate of how fast each setup is on a real Amiga. Another thing that affects your choice is what display you'll be using. If it's a TV resolution (640x256), then the ClassicWB FULL is the way to go!

08 October 2008, 22:26	#99
Dexther Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: italy Age: 46 Posts: 148	Umm just in time for my REAL AMIGA 1200 on New Rom 3.1 In this week arrival the rom end you "classic Wb os3.9" running in my amiga 1200 (on are apollo 030 at 45mhz)

10 October 2008, 19:23	#100
trackah123 Amiga User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Delft / The Netherlands Posts: 327	Hey bloodwych. Just wanted to ask, how is your progress on the ClassicWB for OS3.9? is it still beta or do you have a final-package for it?

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