AmigaOS 3.1.4 withdrawn from market after Amiga - Page 41

kolla · 09 February 2019, 16:01

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Originally Posted by daxb

But such a script is broken by design. Nobody does it if he or she is not a complete moron.

The world is full of them, I tell you!
That was just one stupid example, there's plenty more.

Btw, searching for "cd" is rather pointless, it's common to not use it, and in this case just write "ram:bla", cd is "default action" for directories. As long time Amiga user, you should of course know this.

daxb · 09 February 2019, 18:06

Yes, but searching for " cd " is easy. Searching for "<device>:<path>" not. But a moron would use "cd" for sure. :P Of course I know it and on linux it gives me often a *dohh* when I try to change directory without using cd command. Btw. search is still running.... a 040/40 is so slow.

kolla · 10 February 2019, 15:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by daxb

and on linux it gives me often a *dohh* when I try to change directory without using cd command.

Maybe time to change to something more modern than bash??

SpeedGeek · 04 April 2019, 14:53

** NEWS UPDATE **

The title of this thread should be changed to "AmigaOS 3.1.4 permitted to remain in the market":

Wednesday, April 03, 2019 - ORDER denying Plaintiffs'45 Motion for Preliminary Injunction. Signed by Judge Ricardo S. Martinez. (PM)

spudje · 04 April 2019, 16:15

At least until the case gets a final judgment, correct?

Megol · 04 April 2019, 16:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpeedGeek

** NEWS UPDATE **

The title of this thread should be changed to "AmigaOS 3.1.4 permitted to remain in the market":

No, "AmigaOS 3.1.4 permitted to remain in the market for now".

Quote:

Wednesday, April 03, 2019 - ORDER denying Plaintiffs'45 Motion for Preliminary Injunction. Signed by Judge Ricardo S. Martinez. (PM)

Preliminary. Because the lack of evidence Cloanto would suffer an IRREPARABLE damage if this EXCEPTIONAL action wasn't granted. The merit of the case isn't in question. Yet?

SpeedGeek · 04 April 2019, 18:07

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Originally Posted by spudje

At least until the case gets a final judgment, correct?

Correct, but a final judgment could take years, if either party files an appeal of the trial court's judgment.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megol

No, "AmigaOS 3.1.4 permitted to remain in the market for now".

Preliminary. Because the lack of evidence Cloanto would suffer an IRREPARABLE damage if this EXCEPTIONAL action wasn't granted. The merit of the case isn't in question. Yet?

True, but "For Now" could be several years. What would be the practical reason to withdraw OS 3.1.4 from the market after several years of distribution? Hyperion would certainly be laughing all the way to the bank at that time.

malko · 04 April 2019, 20:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpeedGeek

[...] True, but "For Now" could be several years. What would be the practical reason to withdraw OS 3.1.4 from the market after several years of distribution? [...]

No case is won in advance, but... Just like now: no reasons.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpeedGeek

[...] Hyperion would certainly be laughing all the way [...]

I think that's what everybody would do in such situation

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grond · 04 April 2019, 21:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpeedGeek

What would be the practical reason to withdraw OS 3.1.4 from the market after several years of distribution?

If Cloanto wins the case, Hyperion will simply have to compensate Cloanto for the (continued) sales of 3.1.4

kolla · 05 April 2019, 00:13

OS 3.1.4 must sell 33334 copies just to cover the 1 million euros that Hermans claim that Hyperion owes him. I doubt anyone is laughing, and banks are probably best to avoid...

hiho · 05 April 2019, 00:43

That sounds like a lot of copies. But I bought three myself.

07 April 2019, 12:57

30k copies seem feasible to me to be honest.

kolla · 07 April 2019, 19:06

30k seems more like sci-fi for me.

Anyways, are Hyperion's web pages broken when using https?
Are customers supposed to log in and register over insecure http?

I keep getting redirected to http:// when I try to reset password etc.
Maybe time to pull GDPR on them...

tech3475 · 07 April 2019, 19:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by kolla

30k seems more like sci-fi for me.

Anyways, are Hyperion's web pages broken when using https?
Are customers supposed to log in and register over insecure http?

I keep getting redirected to http:// when I try to reset password etc.
Maybe time to pull GDPR on them...

To be fair, this site lacks https support as well.

kolla · 07 April 2019, 19:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by tech3475

To be fair, this site lacks https support as well.

This site is not a business, selling products, demanding customers to register for so called "free" updates.

tech3475 · 07 April 2019, 19:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by kolla

This site is not a business, selling products, demanding customers to register for so called "free" updates.

True, although it does surprise me how many sites I see which don’t use https which handle user data.

malko · 07 April 2019, 20:08

Commercial or not, it doesn't change anything.

PS: RCK already answered this question last year. Unfortunately, "https" is still not operational...

kolla · 07 April 2019, 22:32

The issue is with Hyperion, not this site
Hyperion's sites do have https, but it's broken and keeps sending users to http.

malko · 08 April 2019, 08:49

@Kolla: changed the layout of my previous post for greater clarity

designer77 · 25 April 2019, 16:18

07 April 2019, 19:06	#813
kolla Banned Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Trondheim, Norway Posts: 1,893	30k seems more like sci-fi for me. Anyways, are Hyperion's web pages broken when using https? Are customers supposed to log in and register over insecure http? I keep getting redirected to http:// when I try to reset password etc. Maybe time to pull GDPR on them... Last edited by kolla; 07 April 2019 at 19:19.

07 April 2019, 20:08	#817
malko Ex nihilo nihil Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: CH Posts: 4,935	Commercial or not, it doesn't change anything. PS: RCK already answered this question last year. Unfortunately, "https" is still not operational... Last edited by malko; 08 April 2019 at 08:48. Reason: changed layout for greater clarity

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09 February 2019, 18:06	#802
daxb Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 3,305	Yes, but searching for " cd " is easy. Searching for "<device>:<path>" not. But a moron would use "cd" for sure. :P Of course I know it and on linux it gives me often a dohh when I try to change directory without using cd command. Btw. search is still running.... a 040/40 is so slow.

04 April 2019, 16:15	#805
spudje Registered User Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Netherlands Posts: 1,406	At least until the case gets a final judgment, correct?

05 April 2019, 00:13	#810
kolla Banned Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Trondheim, Norway Posts: 1,893	OS 3.1.4 must sell 33334 copies just to cover the 1 million euros that Hermans claim that Hyperion owes him. I doubt anyone is laughing, and banks are probably best to avoid...

05 April 2019, 00:43	#811
hiho Registered User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: San Antonio, USA Posts: 76	That sounds like a lot of copies. But I bought three myself.

07 April 2019, 12:57	#812
Debvgger Posts: n/a	30k copies seem feasible to me to be honest.

07 April 2019, 22:32	#818
kolla Banned Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Trondheim, Norway Posts: 1,893	The issue is with Hyperion, not this site Hyperion's sites do have https, but it's broken and keeps sending users to http.

08 April 2019, 08:49	#819
malko Ex nihilo nihil Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: CH Posts: 4,935	@Kolla: changed the layout of my previous post for greater clarity

25 April 2019, 16:18	#820
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