Street fighter 2

[dlfrsilver]

Originally Posted by masteries

Probably only one person worked on it,


like Final Fight version for Amiga and ST,
that was programmed by a single guy,

in a tight deadline

4 people worked on SF2 for US GOLD.

The coder, 2 "graphic artists" lol, and a musician (dave lowe).

[dlfrsilver]

Originally Posted by Megalomaniac

Manuals are printed before games are completed though, it wasn't unknown for the system requirements to increase at the last minute. Multiple reviews said it was 1 Meg only, and I've a feeling I've read that the ST version was 1 Meg only, in which case the Amiga one is bound to be, especially if 32 colours rather than 16.

In fact - https://www.mobygames.com/game/6239/...6/cover-55803/

Street Fighter 2 is a 1mb game. as is the ST version.

[jotd]

when I bought it I thought it was an okay job and played a lot. Not sure that anyone in 2024 can do much better, specially non-professional as capcom wouldn't allow a commercial product.

For US Gold it was above average.

And don't mention Shadow Fighter "engine". Even with the source code of both games it would be very hard to merge them.

[dlfrsilver]

Found on Akira Nishitani Twitter :

"Capcom had a lot of development tools. They had a development machine where you could display the character, watch their moves, and use the lever and buttons to make adjustments and save. It was like a big fighting game maker."

So for such big games, it can be seen that they use some hyper advanced tools like Scorpion Engine..... Just to generate parts of the game program data....

[TCD]

Originally Posted by sokolovic

According to the manual it is a 512kb game.

On which page does the manual mention the RAM requirements for the Amiga version?

[daver]

Originally Posted by Pyromania

SSF2 redone for the Vampire V4 SA and add-on Amiga Vampire V4 boards would look amazing If done right.

I completely agree, even on lesser hardware.

[sokolovic]

Originally Posted by TCD

On which page does the manual mention the RAM requirements for the Amiga version?

Well since there isn't written anywhere in the manual nor in the box that it recquires 1Mb to work, I thought it was implied that this was a stock A500 game.

[TCD]

Originally Posted by sokolovic

Well since there isn't written anywhere in the manual nor in the box that it recquires 1Mb to work, I thought it was implied that this was a stock A500 game.

I'm pretty sure you could find the system requirements on the box (usually they are on the sides, not on the front or back of the box).

[Belgarath]

Just dug out my copy and the only thing written on the bottom of the box is CBM AMIGA A500/P, A600, A1000, A2000 SERIES. Nothing on the sides at all. There's no mention of it requiring 1mb anywhere as far as I can see (even though it definitely requires 1mb).

[d4rk3lf]

Originally Posted by jotd

when I bought it I thought it was an okay job and played a lot. Not sure that anyone in 2024 can do much better, specially non-professional as capcom wouldn't allow a commercial product.

For US Gold it was above average.

Yup.
Definitely not the worst port.
It was sluggish and all, but graphics always looked good enough for me, and back in the day people was more forgiving regarding framerates.
Also, on A1200 it plays a bit faster, and the feeling is slightly better.

But then again, for those who prefer better gameplay over graphics, there is "the new challengers", that looks not so good, but really plays well.

And yes, I also think there is a minor chance that this would work with only 512kb. It was released in time when 1MB was pretty much considered as a standard for A500 (even it was an upgrade)

[Retro1234]

It was ok at the time - but we have all played SF2 now and it doesn't really play like SF2. World Warriors was a bit boring anyway though.

[vulture]

I think the biggest problems (in this order) of SF2 were:

a. Gameplay was very different. The way you had to pull the moves, the priorities, the hitboxes and collision detection were way off.

b. Many missing animation frames. Personally, I could forgive that if gameplay was significantly more accurate.

[oscar_ates]

Why none of the Amiga fighting games were satisfying? I really enjoyed from mortal kombat ports on my amiga only ,pity thing was missing background animations

[vulture]

For me, both Shadow Fighter and Fighting Spirit are excellent fighting games. SSF2 as well if you overlook the bad gfx reduction

[demether]

the body blows serie is good also. But my favorite are shadow fighter and fighting spirit.

[Brick Nash]

I didn't think US Gold SF2 was that bad. My issue with it was that everything was so jerky it made it hard to judge the combat, but apart from that it played ok in a box ticking way.

I also cut it some slack because Gordon Fong was the sole programmer on the game and IIRC this was his very first job, and he was only something like 20 years old at the time. I quite like the music renditions too, becasue they are garish and jaggy with off-notes, and I appreciate that lo-fi aspect of what was probably a big guessing game for Dave Lowe.

I think a conversion of Champion Edition for 1MB OCS would be interesting. Cut down obviously. IIRC OCS can only see three buttons on a controller device, but I could be wrong. The usual problems of a single pixel layer for both Bobs and backgrounds to get a decent colour amount will still be there, and masses of hitbox combinations to work out might be overwhelming.

Street Fighter 2 may simply be too big a game to be done as an unlicensed spare time hobby project.

[sokolovic]

I think the CD32 pad works on OCS so this would'nt be an issue.

[TCD]

Originally Posted by Belgarath

Just dug out my copy and the only thing written on the bottom of the box is CBM AMIGA A500/P, A600, A1000, A2000 SERIES. Nothing on the sides at all. There's no mention of it requiring 1mb anywhere as far as I can see (even though it definitely requires 1mb).

I guess that's why they added the sticker to the box (see Mobygames) later.

[Mad-Matt]

If you had an ECS Amiga (A500+/A600) you could run the game at 60Hz by pressing A on the title screen which made the game infinitely better for those of us in PAL land (as long as your display was fine with it).

[albino]

Originally Posted by Mad-Matt

If you had an ECS Amiga (A500+/A600) you could run the game at 60Hz by pressing A on the title screen which made the game infinitely better for those of us in PAL land (as long as your display was fine with it).

I tried this yesterday it didn't work, but forcing ntsc via relockik work fine.
As i said i played sf2 with ps2 joypad and was surprise how easy pulling special moves it was, plus the game look quite ok, definitely better than in my teenager memories. the graphics are not that bad and the jerky scrolling is not the worst i've seen on amiga. I start to wonder if SF2 is indeed better than his sequel.