HippoPlayer v2.48

[Estrayk]

Originally Posted by koobo

You must have telepathic abilities? Just a few days ago ported this
https://github.com/weinerjm/vgm2wav to amiga and benchmarked the speed. It seems that a 060 might be fast enough to do realtime playback, some further testing needed though.

What a great news koobo ! you're the man! I look forward to the new version for test that in 060!

[koobo]

Some test results.

Rendering console music to audio in realtime with libgme:

• Can handle various console music formats
• Speedwise lands in the Classic Amiga territory
• 68020 can manage the simpler formats (AY, SAP)
• The 68060 may struggle with the heavier formats (SPC)
• Old library, some incompatibilities
• Tested on TF1260 68060@50Mhz, A3000 68030@25MHz

Rendering console music to audio in realtime with libvgm:

• Way, way, way too slow for the 68060
• Modern library, best compatibility
• Tested on TF1260 68060@50Mhz

Rendering MDX files from X68000 to audio in realtime with mdx2wav:

• Mixed results! This seems to be heavily dependent on the memory access speed.
• Too slow on TF1260
• Possibly fast enough on CSPPC
• Tested on TF1260 68060@50Mhz, A4000 CSPPC 68060@50MHz

This is all C/C++ based stuff that has been cross-compiled to Amiga with minimal changes, so no hand crafted assembler anywhere.

[tomcat666]

Very nice. If you want it tested on pistorm you know where to find me

[Estrayk]

I can test it with several acelerators too if you want.

[tomcat666]

Will .vgz files work with it or should we unzip them ?

[koobo]

Originally Posted by tomcat666

Will .vgz files work with it or should we unzip them ?

Those are just gzipped files, hippo can already load .gz files by using the external gzip tool (from C), so, no need to unzip.

[Estrayk]

I sent some videos to koobo testing the new vgm2wav and mdx2wav feature with real amiga 060.
He's right, 50Mhz sometimes isnt enough, 80Mhz is 99% enough. 95Mhz plays all smooth.

[koobo]

HippoPlayer v2.59 available:
- http://aminet.net/mus/play/hippoplayerupdate.lha
- http://aminet.net/mus/play/hippoplayerupdate.readme

In this version we get STIL info support for SID tunes:

... and also a lot of PIPE: abuse and some things that don't need a 100 MHz 68060

EDIT: Forgot to mention in the readme that the reSID output mode for PSID files no longer has a separate AHI setting, that is controlled from the Prefs/AHI subpage. This allows use of the noise reduction modes for AHI too (Oversample x2, etc), which was previously not possible.

[EctoOne]

Just a small thing I've noticed already before this new version. The HiP binary is missing the executable flag.
I noticed that because on 3.1.4.1, WBDock2 refused to start it when clicked.
It took me a while to figure it out because SnoopDos wasn't outputting anything. I've only found the problem when I tried to run it from a shell for some other reason and got the message that HiP isn't executable.
After I've set the flag it worked fine from the dock.

[koobo]

Originally Posted by EctoOne

Just a small thing I've noticed already before this new version. The HiP binary is missing the executable flag.
I noticed that because on 3.1.4.1, WBDock2 refused to start it when clicked.
It took me a while to figure it out because SnoopDos wasn't outputting anything. I've only found the problem when I tried to run it from a shell for some other reason and got the message that HiP isn't executable.
After I've set the flag it worked fine from the dock.

How exactly are you installing it? As far as I can see, the aminet lha flags are correct.

[DisasterIncarna]

looking good, a few .AY tunes dont play at all and arent recognized, not sure why, guessing thats a problem with vgm2wav but most of what i am throwing at it plays. great update as always, also weird is that if i run timidity manually it never plays, but when hippo uses it, its playing midi files no problem using timidity, bizarre but only a plus for me.

[Channel-Z]

I had the same issue, wonder it if was from an 3rd party icon.

[koobo]

Originally Posted by DisasterIncarna

looking good, a few .AY tunes dont play at all and arent recognized, not sure why, guessing thats a problem with vgm2wav but most of what i am throwing at it plays. great update as always, also weird is that if i run timidity manually it never plays, but when hippo uses it, its playing midi files no problem using timidity, bizarre but only a plus for me.

Could you point out some non-working AY-tunes?

[DisasterIncarna]

Originally Posted by koobo

Could you point out some non-working AY-tunes?

i have had no issues so far with older tunes but when i started looking at newer ones, the first that failed to play or be recognized was https://zxart.ee/eng/software/demoscene/demo/ganzfeld/ far bottom of that link is a download button for the AY version and an MP3, the ay should point to https://zxart.ee/file/id:409659/file..._%282023%29.ay

i thought perhaps its some newer format of AY? so compared it to something else newer, 1 of h0ffmans recent tunes is an AY tune so i tried that and it plays no problem. this tune specifically https://zxart.ee/file/id:409565/file...023%2C_1%29.ay

So not sure why 1 2023 tune plays and another does not, i checked the obvious for a format indicator at the start of the file and the working and non working tunes both have ZXAYEMUL at the start of the file, thats about as far as i know what to look for, but i do recall a handful failing/not be recognized.

For other misbehaving files i would have to relisten and go through my spectrum collection, i havent sorted AY files from the rest, i have all the pther speccy music files mixed in such as PT2/PT3/TAP/COP/MTC etc etc, i will make a point of logging other files when i next play a load of files.

It could easily be a problem with the file?/rip? i tried playing the above problem AY file with vlc and vlc attempted it, stayed silent for a good few seconds, then crashes, vlc played the example recent h0ffman tune no problem.

[koobo]

Originally Posted by DisasterIncarna

i have had no issues so far with older tunes but when i started looking at newer ones, the first that failed to play or be recognized was https://zxart.ee/eng/software/demoscene/demo/ganzfeld/ far bottom of that link is a download button for the AY version and an MP3, the ay should point to https://zxart.ee/file/id:409659/file..._%282023%29.ay

This tune seems to generate a few secs of empty output if run with vgm2wav in shell, so it's something that the libgme (used for sound generation). doesn't support most likely.

[samo79]

@koobo

A while passed since i tried it on OS4, this version seems to have a strange issue, it says it's not an executable when i try to launch it (and same problem happens with the older 2.58)
2.54, the latest version i tested instead started fine

[EctoOne]

Originally Posted by koobo

How exactly are you installing it? As far as I can see, the aminet lha flags are correct.

I'm using DirOpus with xad 13 (test version) to extract the archive. And then copy it to its location. And I never had any issues with that.

The executable flag is set for HiP.info but not the binary itself. Which can be seen in the file list on the Aminet page as well. Don't know how exactly Linux flags translate to Amiga flags but HiP is missing the x and only has r/w set.

[koobo]

Originally Posted by samo79

@koobo

A while passed since i tried it on OS4, this version seems to have a strange issue, it says it's not an executable when i try to launch it (and same problem happens with the older 2.58)
2.54, the latest version i tested instead started fine

Have you checked if the HiP binary has the E flag set?
When unarchiving with "LhA 2.15" on Amiga the HiP binary will have the E flag and is executable as expected.

However apparently some others have also had a similar issue.

EDIT: It does seem that the aminet lha is missing the unix +x permission, it also seems that depending on which app is used to unarchive it, the HiP gets the Executable flag or doesn't.

[yelworC]

None of these new pipe: streaming filetypes seem to work for me. I tried some midi files with timidity set as player and a HES PC-Engine Soundfile. It always results in a crashing HIP-Sample Task.

Timidity is installed and working and vgm2wav too.

Im am running HIP on an A4000 with 68060 cpu and OS 3.2.2.1

[koobo]

Originally Posted by yelworC

None of these new pipe: streaming filetypes seem to work for me. I tried some midi files with timidity set as player and a HES PC-Engine Soundfile. It always results in a crashing HIP-Sample Task.

Timidity is installed and working and vgm2wav too.

Im am running HIP on an A4000 with 68060 cpu and OS 3.2.2.1

To clarify, can you succesfully run Timidity and vgm2wav in shell (remember to set stack 10000 before trying vgm2wav)?

Is it possible for you to try out the "Prefs/Play-2/MIDI mode: GMPlay" so it will try to use GMPlay for midi playback?
Does MP3 playback work?