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wonder what config you tested on and when. |
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I understand that you, or anyone else other than Hyperion, don't make that final decision. I'm asking what you THINK may happen based on your understanding of the situation. Of course the answer could quite simply be "I don't know" |
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@wawa, If I remember correctly, I have tried it on MiST - quite some time ago. As far as I heard, not much has improved since then, so I'm not wasting time on it any more; I've got quite large directory of packages from Aminet still to try out.
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15 January 2019, 18:02 | #605 |
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Meanwhile, in Microsoft land...
https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell |
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It seems like some people don't understand that a great deal of work has been done with relatively miniscule resources. When Commodore was maintaining the software, they had a team of people working on it. FULL TIME people whose sole job was to do this. They had full time developers and testers. This update has been done with a handful of people working on this in their spare time. They spent most of their time in the real world doing the things needed to pay bills and putting food on the table. Every release that Commodore did introduced several new bugs. They had the advantage of having to develop for a very small number of models. This update serves all of those plus machines with much more variables like two different RTG systems. They did this from source code with screwey logic and in some cases no documentation. Trying to do this with code in obsolete or obscure forms, code with no internal comments, code that the original developers had intimate experience with, is not at all the easiest thing in the world. That is a major understatement! Personally I would never want to attempt it! |
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If you are so unhappy with this, go away and play with Windows, Linux or whatever. Please stop whining about the same thing over and over in dozens of posts on several forums. You have been given the answers. Repeatedly. |
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15 January 2019, 18:18 | #608 |
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The point was to show the failure of open sourcing things.
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15 January 2019, 18:21 | #609 |
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There is just one world we all live in. It is not about Amiga or Windows, but about the benefits of open source. PowerShell on Github shows: even Microsoft get's it more and more. |
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Yeah, meanwhile, in Amiga land, there is various incarnations of Amiga Shell, AROS Shell, MorphOS Shell, and this thing I think best is described as ThoR Shell. All different in all their ways, no common standard. Well, with MorphOS, OS4 and AROS one can expect users to keep their systems updated, on AmigaOS 68k it is a mess.
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Hyperion already has the rights and sources for ReAction, I would imagine, since it is part of OS4. I for one would be more than happy to buy or even help with the development of an OS3.91 or whatever it would be called.
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If you think you and your teammates alone can improve AmigaOS in a good way, stop complaining about the lack of contribution from others. That you do this for free doesn't mean that others who pay for the result of your work don't have the right to complain. |
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It's not that single people make decisions on the Os at large here. Don't want to come on board? No problem either, write something nice, put it up on Aminet. If you believe you can create software without bugs, it also works with me. Demonstrate! Quote:
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That's a fair contribution, and I'm happy to receive bug reports to fix them. What I am not happy about are people that scan for every little bug, and then make a rumble about every little bug just to drive people away. Criticism can be both positive or negative. If positive, it is an excellent contribution. If negative, it helps no-one. |
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To others: See, this is exactly what I mean by "complaining for the means of complaining". |
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The 3.9 HDToolBox and the hdwrench.library was written by Joanne. She sold the component to a third party. So we don't have it. So please, could you please leave it to the people that actually *do* have access to the subversion to check what is present and what is not? Thank you. |
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The classes are the important part, preferences editors etc. can be re-ReActionized later. Of course I don't know what is on the subversion; I was just making a guess so you could correct me. Last edited by Minuous; 15 January 2019 at 19:41. |
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You are of course right if you observe that all the legal b*llsh*t is not helping in any particular way. No matter whom to trust. We will see what the judgement will be - and whatever it will be, it will unfortunately not be the final one. But then, unlike you, I do not believe that OSS helps in this particular case. If you want to help an OSS project, you are of course welcome to do so. |
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The "mess" I talk about is all the incarnations of Amiga shell you can expext to find on 68k Amiga systems. Someone running "OS 3.9" can be running anything from v40 to v46, depending on what kickstart and ROM updates the person has bothered/been capable of installing. Writing scripts that cover all, means dropping all "modern" features and working around various bugs that may exist
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