Sonnet 7200 PCI programming

[grelbfarlk]

Originally Posted by amigoun

Does anyone know the correct commandline for the warpmess emu?
for example I tried: warpkickstart -mess nes -cart 1942.nes , but it does not work.
And another thing, how to run amigenerator with correct colors? I mean the full version that needs hicolor, the turbo one runs in correct colors, but the full not.

I'll check the command line stuff tonight. Amigenerator uses BE mode like most of Amidog's releases, so don't use a mode that says PC next to it.

@grelbfarlk No error message and I get the same experience using the last v3.21 AmigaAMP and v2.20 WUP decoder from Amigaamp.de. See the register dump attached.

I use the older version of AmigaAMP, but I'll try 3.21 tonight.

[amigoun]

Originally Posted by grelbfarlk

Amigenerator uses BE mode like most of Amidog's releases, so don't use a mode that says PC next to it.

Amigenerator does not list non-PC 16bit resolution upon selection. Maybe it is not possible with the Radeon driver?

[grelbfarlk]

Originally Posted by amigoun

Amigenerator does not list non-PC 16bit resolution upon selection. Maybe it is not possible with the Radeon driver?

Do you have non-PC modes list anywhere at at? Under PVS in Prefs Showmodes should be set to "ALL". It won't say "non-pc" it'll just say 16-bit with another 16-bit PC below or above it.

Here's my launch for Amidog's MESS selecting Megadrive/Genesis with game Sonic

stack 500000
mess.exe GENESIS CARTRIDGE SONIC REQUESTER JOYPAD FRAMESKIP 2 RATE 22050

And here's my WES MESS for Megadrive/Geneis also

stack 200000
warpkickstart GENESIS -CARTRIDGE sonic.bin -mess -blithack -sr 22050

[amigoun]

I have tried GetmodeID but only PC modes are showed. I also tried to change P96 ENV variable ShowModes from Essential to All, and 15bit modes appear too, but also marked PC.
So it seems Radeon driver does not support BigEndian modes. Now I can understand why FPSE cannot use screenmode under Radeon, where Voodoo3 was fine.

[grelbfarlk]

Originally Posted by amigoun

I have tried GetmodeID but only PC modes are showed. I also tried to change P96 ENV variable ShowModes from Essential to All, and 15bit modes appear too, but also marked PC.
So it seems Radeon driver does not support BigEndian modes. Now I can understand why FPSE cannot use screenmode under Radeon, where Voodoo3 was fine.

Ok do this, under your Picasso96 install where it installed the "tools" that has like drivers that you'd never use, there should be a program called "Debug" run that and it should say how much GFX RAM you have and list the modes your hardware supports. Which P96 version are you using, I've been using the unofficial 2.1e forever.

I'm not sure what's going on with AmigaAMP 3.xx. I have 3.18 on the HDD and I launched it once and it bugged since I still had sonnet.library patched External driver. I quit and copied the External driver from my 2.25 install and now I can't select WarpUP version. It still works on 2.25 but for some reason even if I delete AmigaAmp.prefs from ENV: it still will not let me select External driver. Weird.

[amigoun]

here is the debug output:
Looking through all boards installed for Picasso96
--------------------------------------------------
Board 0: Radeon
Chip: 3dfx Voodoo
DAC: 3dfx Voodoo (internal)
RegisterBase: 0x40c06000
MemoryBase: 0x60000000
MemorySize: 33538048
BitsPerCannon: 8

This board supports:
following rgb formats:
CHUNKY
R5G5B5PC
R5G6B5PC
B8G8R8A8
Y4U2V2
Y4U1V1
hardware sprite,
no software sprite buffer,
planar and chunky memory exclusive,
hardware vblank interrupt can not be caused,
User selectable flags:
overclocking disabled,
memory clock set to 400.0 MHz,
big sprite not used,
system borderblank used,
board is part of the display chain,

Bringing board 0 to front for about 2 seconds...

-----------------------


and here the history for radeon from latest mediator mmcd update:

--------------------
Radeon.card history
--------------------
1.0 (14 Jan 2008) - the first version
all 2D functions accelerated in hardware
support for the following screen modes:
8-bit (CHANKY)
15-bit PC (R5G5B5PC)
16-bit PC (R5G6B5PC)
32-bit PC (B8G8R8A8)
Y4U2V2
Y4U1V1
1.5 (19 May 2008) - new Radeon models added
see: http://www.elbox.com/mdg.html
NO_MMU mode added
1.6 (15 Jun 2008) - new Radeon models added
1.7 (25 Jul 2008) - new Radeon models added

(...)

2.12 (09 Sep 2010) - support for Radeon 9000 series added
- adding the Radeon memory to Amiga 3/4000 memory system
(...)

2.22 (09 Dec 2014) - acceleration of Draw () function in NO_MMU mode


Note: Radeon.card ver.2.12 requires pci.library ver.9.0 as minimum.

[grelbfarlk]

Originally Posted by amigoun

here is the debug output:

Board 0: Radeon
Chip: 3dfx Voodoo
DAC: 3dfx Voodoo (internal)


This board supports:
following rgb formats:
CHUNKY
R5G5B5PC
R5G6B5PC
B8G8R8A8
Y4U2V2
Y4U1V1
hardware sprite,
no software sprite buffer,
planar and chunky memory exclusive,
hardware vblank interrupt can not be caused,
User selectable flags:
overclocking disabled,
memory clock set to 400.0 MHz,
big sprite not used,
system borderblank used,
board is part of the display chain,

Whoa I didn't know that it saw the Radeon.card as a Voodoo. I don't have a Radeon system to compare right now, but maybe it really doesn't have BE modes, that's ultra-lame. This is also going to be a problem for WarpSNES and I think Amidog's MAME.

[Magic]

My configuration is A4000D (3640) Buster 11 Mediator 4000DI Black 3.3v and Sonnet 7200. After trying both a Voodoo 3 16 meg card and a Radeon 9250 with every combination of settings I still get freezing mouse pointer and system re-boots every time I try and run anything on the Sonnet card.

Finally I bought an old Powermac 7200/90 on Ebay to test the Sonnet 7200 card with the 64 meg DIMMs that I have. The Sonnet card makes a HUGE difference in the Mac. Now I know the Sonnet card and memory are both good. I am still not sure what is wrong with my Amiga 4000 Mediator A4000DI Sonnet setup. I have also tried (3) different Amiga 4000 power supplies.

I have an older 5 volt green mediator setup, should I try that? Thank everyone for their help so far. Hedeon has been a great help. He spent lots of time with me via email. I would really like to get this running.

[grelbfarlk]

Originally Posted by Magic

My configuration is A4000D (3640) Buster 11 Mediator 4000DI Black 3.3v and Sonnet 7200. After trying both a Voodoo 3 16 meg card and a Radeon 9250 with every combination of settings I still get freezing mouse pointer and system re-boots every time I try and run anything on the Sonnet card.

Finally I bought an old Powermac 7200/90 on Ebay to test the Sonnet 7200 card with the 64 meg DIMMs that I have. The Sonnet card makes a HUGE difference in the Mac so I know the Sonnet card and memory is good. I am still not sure what is wrong with my Amiga 4000 Mediator A4000DI Sonnet setup. I have also tried (3) different Amiga 4000 power supplies.

I have an older 5 volt green mediator setup, should I try that? Thank everyone for their help so far. Hedeon has been a great help. He spent lots of time with me via email. I would really like to get this running.

What 68040 library are you using? Recommendation is to use Thor's libraries with his mmulib distribution.

5V Mediator is a possibility but you'll have to modify your Sonnet card, there's a page on the wiki about that.

Does the system freeze and crash with simple command line programs like CyberPI or Dnetc?

Also are you sure your 64MB DIMMs are 2k refresh? Put up a pic of them or get the chip part numbers off it. Reason I ask is that the Mac Sonnet driver does support 4k refresh while this one doesn't yet.

[Magic]

The system freezes up solid (mouse pointer stops moving) right after the Sonnet memory is added to the system. I can see the memory get added to the title bar on the Workbench screen. This happens anytime I try and run a program that uses the Sonnet card. I have tried Thors 040 libs as well.

[amigoun]

And if you use atx-adapter from akit it will not work stable with loaded desktop 4000 unless you modify the adapter and connect multiple 5V lines from psu to that single pin on amiga mobo.

[Magic]

Originally Posted by amigoun

And if you use atx-adapter from akit it will not work stable with loaded desktop 4000 unless you modify the adapter and connect multiple 5V lines from psu to that single pin on amiga mobo.

It sounds like it's time to get the DVOM out and start probing the 5 volt lines. Thanks for the advice

[grelbfarlk]

Originally Posted by Magic

It sounds like it's time to get the DVOM out and start probing the 5 volt lines. Thanks for the advice

I still wonder about the memory specs on your DIMMs.

[Magic]

Originally Posted by grelbfarlk

I still wonder about the memory specs on your DIMMs.

I have (3) of these modules;

http://www.memoryx.com/apl168b644k1.html

P.S. These memory modules work fine in the real Powermac 7200/90 machine if that helps.

[grelbfarlk]

Originally Posted by Magic

I have (3) of these modules;

http://www.memoryx.com/apl168b644k1.html

P.S. These memory modules work fine in the real Powermac 7200/90 machine if that helps.

Hard to say but it says in the description 64MB Apple PowerMac 168-pin FPM 4K 5V Buffered DIMM (p/n APL168B64/4K)



4K refresh. If you can take a high resolution picture of the DIMMs, and I'll check the chips are actually 4k refresh.

[Magic]

I'll put one of them on the scanner this weekend when I try it again

[grelbfarlk]

Originally Posted by Magic

I'll put one of them on the scanner this weekend when I try it again

Or just get the part number off of the chips, whatever works.

[Hedeon]

Originally Posted by Magic

The system freezes up solid (mouse pointer stops moving) right after the Sonnet memory is added to the system. I can see the memory get added to the title bar on the Workbench screen. This happens anytime I try and run a program that uses the Sonnet card. I have tried Thors 040 libs as well.

You used InitPPC first? Does it hang then?

[Magic]

Originally Posted by Hedeon

You used InitPPC first? Does it hang then?

Yes it does.

[Wrangler]

@grelbfarlk: Yep AmigaAMP v2.25 works fine. Thanks for the tip!

@Magic: Have you sent the environment variable VoodooMemOS to Yes?

@All: Could someone who has got Warp3D working with a Sonnet on a Voodoo 3 please post their env variables (Mediator, Warp3D, PowerPC, anything else)? Warp3D works for me on 68K but I get recoverable or unrecoverable alerts on PPC depending on the variables I set. I think I am missing something on the PPC side but I'm not sure what.