IPF image database

[dlfrsilver]

indeed they titles i own and that even if requesting they won't have the time to give me the one i miss.

[BarryB]

That's the problem, TIME! There aren't enough volunteers with the knowledge needed to help SPS analyse all those dumps

[dlfrsilver]

you're kidding !!! The fact is the CTA tool is not available to the public, that is the main problem !

The knowledge about the disks format is not easy, true, but there is quite enough guys around which could help about this, and no, it won't happen.

[BarryB]

If the CTA was available to the public how many people would know how to use it correctly so they didn't create broken IPFs? That's the main reason it's not available, training people to use it correctly would take too much time.

[TCD]

Originally Posted by BarryB

...training people to use it correctly would take too much time.

Like more than 2 years maybe? Making one person invaluable and not have him write proper howtos makes projects hit a dead end. Sorry, but there's a major flaw in that logic. I'm sure after the analyze code has been added identifying 'good' dumps isn't rocket science and can be achived by mere humans with a proper set of background information. I'll shut it now, but all these arguments to make it look like SPS isn't doing anything wrong (at least communication wise) regarding their preservation activities is kinda hilarious.

[dlfrsilver]

to be honest, aside the disk using special scheme like copylock BarryB, i'm doing the very same thing with powercopy. What is it exactly ? Just say to the amiga, here, the track is X in length, the sync on this track is Y.

The CTA tool works more or less the same, the difference is actually the fact that if datas on the disk are good, but the disk is physically flawed, then the disk can't be preserved, because it gets feet in the carpet each time an error is encountered.
Oh well.......

[BarryB]

It's their project, their time, their effort and their money and theirs to run how they like. If I'd developy the Kryoflux and the Analyser do you think I'd be falling over myself to give it to any Tom, Dick or Harry?

Best lock this thread as arguing between each other won't solve anything except get everyone pissed off with each other.

[kipper2k]

Originally Posted by BarryB

It's their project, their time, their effort and their money and theirs to run how they like. If I'd developy the Kryoflux and the Analyser do you think I'd be falling over myself to give it to any Tom, Dick or Harry?

Best lock this thread as arguing between each other won't solve anything except get everyone pissed off with each other.

Why lock the thread? Do you not agree that an ADF should in theory be treated the same as an IPF, after all it is the authors code, not the presentation that is in question. If an ADF is permissable then this rule should apply to all. If people submit their files to assist in the private preservation of their images then they should get the image

[dlfrsilver]

Originally Posted by BarryB

It's their project, their time, their effort and their money and theirs to run how they like. If I'd developy the Kryoflux and the Analyser do you think I'd be falling over myself to give it to any Tom, Dick or Harry?

Best lock this thread as arguing between each other won't solve anything except get everyone pissed off with each other.

There's no problem here I won't argue with you, because it's not the point here BarryB. extended ADF are only good for some games not using nasty schemes, only IPF unfortunately allows full preservation......

Only way would be to develop another format.....

[Avanze]

dlfrsilver, how many other extended adfs images do you have?

[dlfrsilver]

quite a bit until now, i made them public each time i could (I'd say 30s something like that, do you have a particular title in mind ?)

The last one is universal warrior from zeppelin software, it uses a strange sync ($3489 lol).

I'll upload it a bit later in the day (i'm f*cking sick AGAIN grrrrr :S)

[alexh]

I have no problem with the idea that they no longer have the time. Nor do I have no problem believing that they are busy doing other things their 68000 accelerator, their commercial preservation work etc.

But just a 2 minute status update once a year to the world / contributors would be nice. As it looks today, the SPS effort seems stalled.

I cannot believe that there is nothing left to preserve. Nor that the team no longer have the fire in their hearts for preservation. The SPS team had just started to process and preserve atari dumps and released Kryoflux for many other formats and then stopped.

Too bad.

[dlfrsilver]

the fact is the task is just too big for 4 or 5 peoples. If they were picking people they can trust, those could help them in.

And the story about releasing broken IPF, who wants to create and make those ? Nobody wants not working softwares.

Indeed.......

[Avanze]

Originally Posted by dlfrsilver

quite a bit until now, i made them public each time i could (I'd say 30s something like that, do you have a particular title in mind ?)

If possible, could I trouble you for a list of those games? Thanks.

[TCD]

Originally Posted by Avanze

If possible, could I trouble you for a list of those games? Thanks.

You can have a look on the file server in 'Commodore_Amiga/Game/Disk/Extended ADF' for now.

[Avanze]

Nice one, CyberDruid. I didn't think to look there.

[TCD]

You're welcome I think some more might show up soon IIRC

[Avanze]

Is it possible, and acceptable, to make a few game request for extended adf images?

[TCD]

It's surely not against any rules here to ask for them Would be better to open a new thread for it though.

[dlfrsilver]

Please yes, open a new thread, and ask which games you'd like to see in exADF.