FS-UAE Net Play - Page 2

AmigaOnline · 01 March 2012, 12:02

>FrodeSolheim: Do you know if the server can work using Windows XP?
I've tried to start a game locally (lan/localhost) and online (with 2 clients), and the server process seems to suddently stop when all clients are connected. It works well if the server process is started under Windows Seven (tested)

Python V3
Windows XP SP3
FS-UAE V0.9.10 (same problem with V0.9.9b4)

More infos (over a lan):

Then, the second client connects...
...
"game loop
stopping game_loop"

And all processes (clients+server) suddenly stop
Any idea?

Info: The same problem occurs with two different computers (with and without firewalls)

FrodeSolheim · 01 March 2012, 12:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmigaOnline

>FrodeSolheim: Do you know if the server can work using Windows XP?
I've tried to start a game locally (lan/localhost) and online (with 2 clients), and the server process seems to suddently stop when all clients are connected. It works well if the server process is started under Windows Seven (tested)

Python V3
Windows XP SP3
FS-UAE V0.9.10 (same problem with V0.9.9b4)

The server is not python 3-compatible. Use python 2, and it will work!

AmigaOnline · 01 March 2012, 12:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by FrodeSolheim

The server is not python 3-compatible. Use python 2, and it will work!

It works, thanks

AmigaOnline · 01 March 2012, 18:49

>FrodeSolheim: I. Do you think that it is possible to play online using the keyboard only instead of real joysticks? (Client 1 & Client 2=cursor+right alt/ctrl)
We've tried many combinations and the emulator always shuts down when we hit some keys (or move the mouse pointer)

Settings: auto/keyboard/mouse/amiga_mouse/amiga_joystick/nothing
Game tested: Speedball 2/no mouse required/2 joysticks

## Valid values for devices joystick ports:
## "mouse", "keyboard", "auto", in addition to gamepad / joystick devices,
## which are specified by names.

## The device connected to port 0. If set to auto (the default), a mouse
## will be configured in port 0.
joystick_port_0 = ?

## The device connected to port 0. If set to auto (the default), a the
## first joystick/gamepad connected to the computer will be used, if
## the joystick/gamepad is supported. Otherwise it defaults to keyboard
## emulation (cursor keys + right CTRL). To force keyboard emulation,
## specify "keyboard"
joystick_port_1 = ?

Of course, we always have to invert the settings for Client 1 & Client 2.

II. Is it possible to enable/disable/change a controller (mouse/joystick) within the emulator?

Thanks!

FrodeSolheim · 01 March 2012, 18:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmigaOnline

>FrodeSolheim: I. Do you think that it is possible to play online using the keyboard only instead of real joysticks? (Client 1 & Client 2=cursor+right alt/ctrl)
We've tried many combinations and the emulator always shuts down when we hit some keys (or move the mouse pointer)

Settings: auto/keyboard/mouse/amiga_mouse/amiga_joystick/nothing
Game tested: Speedball 2/no mouse required/2 joysticks

## Valid values for devices joystick ports:
## "mouse", "keyboard", "auto", in addition to gamepad / joystick devices,
## which are specified by names.

## The device connected to port 0. If set to auto (the default), a mouse
## will be configured in port 0.
joystick_port_0 = ?

## The device connected to port 0. If set to auto (the default), a the
## first joystick/gamepad connected to the computer will be used, if
## the joystick/gamepad is supported. Otherwise it defaults to keyboard
## emulation (cursor keys + right CTRL). To force keyboard emulation,
## specify "keyboard"
joystick_port_1 = ?

Of course, we always have to invert the settings for Client 1 & Client 2.

If both players want to have keyboard joystick emulation, player 1 should have:

Code:

joystick_port_0 = keyboard
joystick_port_1 = amiga_joystick

and player 2 should have:

Code:

joystick_port_0 = amiga_joystick
joystick_port_1 = keyboard

(or opposite, of course). amiga_joystick inserts a "dummy" joystick, so the result of this is that both players have configured joysticks in both joystick port 0 and 1. You could think of amiga_joystick as "remote joystick".

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmigaOnline

II. Is it possible to enable/disable/change a controller (mouse/joystick) within the emulator?
Thanks!

Not yet, but eventually!

AmigaOnline · 01 March 2012, 19:09

Thanks a lot!

FrodeSolheim · 01 March 2012, 19:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by FrodeSolheim

The server is not python 3-compatible. Use python 2, and it will work!

I have fixed the server so it is Python 3-compatible (now requires Python >= 2.6). Available at the usual place:
http://fengestad.no/wp/fs-uae/net-play

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmigaOnline

Thanks a lot!

Does this mean it worked for you? -Let me know in any case

AmigaOnline · 01 March 2012, 20:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by FrodeSolheim

I have fixed the server so it is Python 3-compatible (now requires Python >= 2.6). Available at the usual place:
http://fengestad.no/wp/fs-uae/net-play

Does this mean it worked for you? -Let me know in any case

About Python 3: Cool!

About the controllers: Yes it works well!

Is there a way to use the keyboard (cursor keys+right alt/ctrl) & the mouse in the same session? Some games require a joystick & a mouse (pointer and/or buttons) What would be the settings in this case?
It would be nice to add a chat feature within the emulator!

FrodeSolheim · 01 March 2012, 20:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmigaOnline

Is there a way to use the keyboard (cursor keys+right alt/ctrl) & the mouse in the same session? Some games require a joystick & a mouse (pointer and/or buttons) What would be the settings in this case?

Obviously, FS-UAE supports both mouse and joystick at the same time in separate ports, but I sense this is not what you ask about. Could you be more specific, ideally with an example of a game, and what you would like to be able to do?

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmigaOnline

It would be nice to add a chat feature within the emulator!

All in time

-have to wait and see if the basic net play functionality is a success before building more on top of it.

AmigaOnline · 01 March 2012, 20:39

in fact with these settings it's not possible to use the mouse (pointer):

joystick_port_0 = keyboard
joystick_port_1 = amiga_joystick

joystick_port_0 = amiga_joystick
joystick_port_1 = keyboard

Game: Dogfight
The player has to double-click an icon to start the game (it's difficult to move a mouse pointer with a joystick

). Then, all players use the joysticks to play the game.
There are a lot of other games that require a mouse+a joystick

It's particularly important that the mouse does not "interact" with one of the joysticks during a game

FrodeSolheim · 01 March 2012, 20:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmigaOnline

in fact with these settings it's not possible to use the mouse (pointer):

joystick_port_0 = keyboard
joystick_port_1 = amiga_joystick

joystick_port_0 = amiga_joystick
joystick_port_1 = [FONT=monospace]keyboard

Quite right; you need to think in terms of the amiga joystick ports, and here both ports are occupied by joysticks, so no Amiga mouse connected.

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmigaOnline

Game: Dogfight
The player has to double-click an icon to start the game (it's difficult to move a mouse pointer with a joystick

)

Very

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmigaOnline

Then, all players use the joysticks to play the game.

If the game requires mouse + joystick at one point during the game, and joystick + joystick at another, this is not currently possible with FS-UAE. It would need a input configuration menu in FS-UAE (planned anyway), but also distributed joystick port swapping (this is possible to do).

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmigaOnline

There are a lot of other games that require a mouse+a joystick

Yes, -but there are not that many that need a mouse+joystick at one time, and joystick+joystick at another time (?).

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmigaOnline

-It's slow (you already know and it's a beta)

How was the game play speed for you now?

AmigaOnline · 01 March 2012, 21:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by FrodeSolheim

If the game requires mouse + joystick at one point during the game, and joystick + joystick at another, this is not currently possible with FS-UAE. It would need a input configuration menu in FS-UAE (planned anyway), but also distributed joystick port swapping (this is possible to do).

How was the game play speed for you now?

Ok, that's the answer I wanted

About the speed: It's better now, we have probably had a ping issue two days ago.
We have to try some more games and try the tweaked version too

FrodeSolheim · 01 March 2012, 21:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmigaOnline

Game: Dogfight
The player has to double-click an icon to start the game (it's difficult to move a mouse pointer with a joystick

). Then, all players use the joysticks to play the game.

By the way, if this a workbench-launched game (the floppy boots into workbench, and you doubleclick the icon to start the game), you can fix the floppy to autostart the game... thus removing the need for the mouse.

(Edit StartupSequence or something -many years since I did this last..)

AmigaOnline · 01 March 2012, 21:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by FrodeSolheim

By the way, if this a workbench-launched game (the floppy boots into workbench, and you doubleclick the icon to start the game), you can fix the floppy to autostart the game... thus removing the need for the mouse.

(Edit StartupSequence or something -many years since I did this last..)

Yes I know, but the goal is to be able to start a game without having to modifiy these files

A lot of games require the left/right mouse button too (in order to skip intro menus) + a joystick for each player (the game itself)

FrodeSolheim · 01 March 2012, 21:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmigaOnline

About the speed: It's better now, we have probably had a ping issue two days ago.
We have to try some more games and try the tweaked version too

Just download the latest server here: http://fengestad.no/wp/fs-uae/net-play
-it is "pre-tweaked"

AmigaOnline · 01 March 2012, 22:01

Thanks!

AmigaOnline · 02 March 2012, 00:08

>FrodeSolheim: Are the parallel port joysticks already supported? http://www.vesalia.de/e_4playeradapter.htm
And how many simultaneous players can join a server (max)?

FrodeSolheim · 02 March 2012, 00:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmigaOnline

>FrodeSolheim: Are the parallel port joysticks already supported? http://www.vesalia.de/e_4playeradapter.htm
And how many simultaneous players can join a server (max)?

Emulated parallel port joysticks are not supported yet, but it is on the todo-list.

There is an artificial limit of 4 right now (but the limit could just as well be 8 or 16 or whatever, if there is a good reason for it). The reason I coded in the limit of 4 players on the server is that the FS-UAE debug HUD shows network status for 4 players currently.

AmigaOnline · 02 March 2012, 00:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by FrodeSolheim

Emulated parallel port joysticks are not supported yet, but it is on the todo-list.

There is an artificial limit of 4 right now (but the limit could just as well be 8 or 16 or whatever, if there is a good reason for it). The reason I coded in the limit of 4 players on the server is that the FS-UAE debug HUD shows network status for 4 players currently.

I see

Only a few games support 5 players or more. And most of the time, player 3&4 will have to use the parallel port joysticks

AmigaOnline · 02 March 2012, 12:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by FrodeSolheim

If the game requires mouse + joystick at one point during the game, and joystick + joystick at another, this is not currently possible with FS-UAE. It would need a input configuration menu in FS-UAE (planned anyway), but also distributed joystick port swapping (this is possible to do).

And if the game requires
-a joystick (cursor keys+right alt/ctrl) for the player 1

and

-normal cursor keys + other keyboard keys for the player 2

All this at one point
==> Same problem?

Game tested: North & South

Thanks

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01 March 2012, 12:02	#21
AmigaOnline Online Amiga Gaming Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Paris/France Posts: 280	>FrodeSolheim: Do you know if the server can work using Windows XP? I've tried to start a game locally (lan/localhost) and online (with 2 clients), and the server process seems to suddently stop when all clients are connected. It works well if the server process is started under Windows Seven (tested) Python V3 Windows XP SP3 FS-UAE V0.9.10 (same problem with V0.9.9b4) More infos (over a lan): Then, the second client connects... ... "game loop stopping game_loop" And all processes (clients+server) suddenly stop Any idea? Info: The same problem occurs with two different computers (with and without firewalls)

01 March 2012, 18:49	#24
AmigaOnline Online Amiga Gaming Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Paris/France Posts: 280	>FrodeSolheim: I. Do you think that it is possible to play online using the keyboard only instead of real joysticks? (Client 1 & Client 2=cursor+right alt/ctrl) We've tried many combinations and the emulator always shuts down when we hit some keys (or move the mouse pointer) Settings: auto/keyboard/mouse/amiga_mouse/amiga_joystick/nothing Game tested: Speedball 2/no mouse required/2 joysticks ## Valid values for devices joystick ports: ## "mouse", "keyboard", "auto", in addition to gamepad / joystick devices, ## which are specified by names. ## The device connected to port 0. If set to auto (the default), a mouse ## will be configured in port 0. joystick_port_0 = ? ## The device connected to port 0. If set to auto (the default), a the ## first joystick/gamepad connected to the computer will be used, if ## the joystick/gamepad is supported. Otherwise it defaults to keyboard ## emulation (cursor keys + right CTRL). To force keyboard emulation, ## specify "keyboard" joystick_port_1 = ? Of course, we always have to invert the settings for Client 1 & Client 2. II. Is it possible to enable/disable/change a controller (mouse/joystick) within the emulator? Thanks!

01 March 2012, 19:09	#26
AmigaOnline Online Amiga Gaming Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Paris/France Posts: 280	Thanks a lot!

01 March 2012, 20:39	#30
AmigaOnline Online Amiga Gaming Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Paris/France Posts: 280	in fact with these settings it's not possible to use the mouse (pointer): joystick_port_0 = keyboard joystick_port_1 = amiga_joystick joystick_port_0 = amiga_joystick joystick_port_1 = keyboard Game: Dogfight The player has to double-click an icon to start the game (it's difficult to move a mouse pointer with a joystick ). Then, all players use the joysticks to play the game. There are a lot of other games that require a mouse+a joystick It's particularly important that the mouse does not "interact" with one of the joysticks during a game

01 March 2012, 22:01	#36
AmigaOnline Online Amiga Gaming Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Paris/France Posts: 280	Thanks!

02 March 2012, 00:08	#37
AmigaOnline Online Amiga Gaming Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Paris/France Posts: 280	>FrodeSolheim: Are the parallel port joysticks already supported? http://www.vesalia.de/e_4playeradapter.htm And how many simultaneous players can join a server (max)?

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