Workbench, Kickstart 3.1 ROMS help. - Page 2

Daedalus · 15 December 2016, 21:33

Right, crashes like that can happen for a few reasons - misbehaving or damaged software, running out of memory, mixing up library versions, hardware issues etc. It's possible it happened for one of those reasons, maybe because you tried running something that shouldn't be run until the OS is installed properly. Hopefully the installation goes smoothly now and you can reboot into a nice, fast Workbench

Edit: There's too much editing of posts going on to keep track of things

I see, they have an installation script installed already, good to know. Although it shouldn't cause an installation from the Install floppy to fail.

digitalx · 15 December 2016, 21:37

After a few disks, 62% "Locale has a read error on disk block 1614"

I've given the internals a blast of canned air a few days ago, is it time for a new floppy drive?

Daedalus · 15 December 2016, 21:47

Ugh... That could either be a problem with the floppy or the drive. Have you got a floppy drive cleaning disk? That might help. You can retry a couple of times and see if it gets it, but if not it could be the disks. Make a new drawer on the hard drive and try copying the contents of several disks to it to test them. If you get an error in the same place on Locale, it points at the disk. If you get other errors it could be the drive.

-Acid- · 15 December 2016, 21:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by digitalx

After a few disks, 62% "Locale has a read error on disk block 1614"

I've given the internals a blast of canned air a few days ago, is it time for a new floppy drive?

More likely a new floppy disk... since the other disks read fine to this point I would say it's the Locale disk which is most likely to be knackered.

digitalx · 15 December 2016, 21:49

Oh bugger. Ok. I'll order a new set.

No floppy drive cleaning disks, it was a used A1200 and lumps of dumps inside, I haven't the drive apart yet properly to clean.

New workbench disks, opening the drive thoroughly, or new drive? What would be best?

Arnie · 15 December 2016, 21:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daedalus

Edit: There's too much editing of posts going on to keep track of things

Sorry about that

I didn't want the op formatting anything on the HD as it can't be recovered to it's original state afterwards.

The OS-Install disk is really poor at detecting whether a HD is present. It's supposed to install to ADH0: if it detects SYS:c/os-install, but never does.

digitalx · 15 December 2016, 21:51

OK ordered a complete set of workbench disks, error free said the Ebay ad. Fingers crossed!

Gonna pack it up now, nothing I can do it. Can carry on building my Stepdad's DOS pc.

Daedalus · 15 December 2016, 21:59

If you bought the disks and there was an error, return them rather than ordering a new set. Alternatively, find someone nearby where you live with an Amiga who can verify that the disk is indeed faulty, and who might possibly be able to write a working image to a new disk for you.

digitalx · 15 December 2016, 22:01

Bit late now. I'll try and contact the store online but they never even gave a confirmation email or order, registration etc. I tried TWO emails..

idrougge · 15 December 2016, 22:22

Why does Amigakit sell a botch job like this?

digitalx · 15 December 2016, 22:29

It's more likely an error on my part, must have messed up something.

Problem is here I know no one who can help me in real life, hence why I tried foruims, my stepdad is into programming and did part of rockstars website back in the day and all sorts, but I'd have to put an ad up or something to get this done at this rate.

I know a load about modern day gaming computers as I've built many but this is beyond me.

idrougge · 15 December 2016, 22:31

Most likely it's due to several errors on their part.

Daedalus · 15 December 2016, 22:34

Well, welcome to EAB anyway, and hopefully this doesn't sour your enjoyment of an excellent machine. I'm into my "modern" computers too, but I've also had the same A1200 since about 1996, expanded way beyond recognition, and still use it regularly for software development. Where are you in England? You'd be surprised - there are many users scattered all over the country - one might be quite nearby!

digitalx · 15 December 2016, 22:37

Dover in Kent. I'll this is another bash if not pack it up and try the new disks when they come.

Daedalus · 15 December 2016, 22:37

As for why there's an error, it's hard to tell. It could well be from using old, recycled floppy disks, or maybe they're using nice, new drives to test/write their disks and so missed a minor issue that only shows up when they're tried in a tired and dirty, almost-quarter-of-a-century old drive.

crazyc · 15 December 2016, 22:42

Oh you are only an hour or so from me. Whilst far far far less knowledgeable then the guys here I do have a couple of a 1200 s and I can help if you can get here over the holidays. I am in Gravesend.

Sent from my S7 Edge

digitalx · 15 December 2016, 22:57

I might be able to yeah, I just want it installed. Bit of a bus journey but I will see what I can do.

digitalx · 15 December 2016, 23:00

Scratch gravesend, not doable sorry.

Have to be phone, text or email.

digitalx · 15 December 2016, 23:08

Oh for christs sake.. trying the OS install, swapping disks like mad.

os install has a read error on disk block 1100

I am getting ready to throw in the towel at this rate.

crazyc · 15 December 2016, 23:27

Ok. So just to summarise for those of us who may have had a drink tonight....
You have an unexpected a 1200. You have purchased a set of 3.1 workbench disks. And a cf card and adapter from Amiga kit. The card should have come formatted but presumably without the operating system installed or you wouldn't have these issues?

Sent from my S7 Edge

15 December 2016, 21:37	#22
digitalx Registered User Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Dover Age: 34 Posts: 40	After a few disks, 62% "Locale has a read error on disk block 1614" I've given the internals a blast of canned air a few days ago, is it time for a new floppy drive? Last edited by digitalx; 15 December 2016 at 21:44.

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15 December 2016, 21:33	#21
Daedalus Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Dublin, then Glasgow Posts: 6,374	Right, crashes like that can happen for a few reasons - misbehaving or damaged software, running out of memory, mixing up library versions, hardware issues etc. It's possible it happened for one of those reasons, maybe because you tried running something that shouldn't be run until the OS is installed properly. Hopefully the installation goes smoothly now and you can reboot into a nice, fast Workbench Edit: There's too much editing of posts going on to keep track of things I see, they have an installation script installed already, good to know. Although it shouldn't cause an installation from the Install floppy to fail.

15 December 2016, 21:47	#23
Daedalus Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Dublin, then Glasgow Posts: 6,374	Ugh... That could either be a problem with the floppy or the drive. Have you got a floppy drive cleaning disk? That might help. You can retry a couple of times and see if it gets it, but if not it could be the disks. Make a new drawer on the hard drive and try copying the contents of several disks to it to test them. If you get an error in the same place on Locale, it points at the disk. If you get other errors it could be the drive.

15 December 2016, 21:49	#25
digitalx Registered User Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Dover Age: 34 Posts: 40	Oh bugger. Ok. I'll order a new set. No floppy drive cleaning disks, it was a used A1200 and lumps of dumps inside, I haven't the drive apart yet properly to clean. New workbench disks, opening the drive thoroughly, or new drive? What would be best?

15 December 2016, 21:51	#27
digitalx Registered User Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Dover Age: 34 Posts: 40	OK ordered a complete set of workbench disks, error free said the Ebay ad. Fingers crossed! Gonna pack it up now, nothing I can do it. Can carry on building my Stepdad's DOS pc.

15 December 2016, 21:59	#28
Daedalus Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Dublin, then Glasgow Posts: 6,374	If you bought the disks and there was an error, return them rather than ordering a new set. Alternatively, find someone nearby where you live with an Amiga who can verify that the disk is indeed faulty, and who might possibly be able to write a working image to a new disk for you.

15 December 2016, 22:01	#29
digitalx Registered User Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Dover Age: 34 Posts: 40	Bit late now. I'll try and contact the store online but they never even gave a confirmation email or order, registration etc. I tried TWO emails..

15 December 2016, 22:22	#30
idrougge Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Stockholm Posts: 4,344	Why does Amigakit sell a botch job like this?

15 December 2016, 22:29	#31
digitalx Registered User Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Dover Age: 34 Posts: 40	It's more likely an error on my part, must have messed up something. Problem is here I know no one who can help me in real life, hence why I tried foruims, my stepdad is into programming and did part of rockstars website back in the day and all sorts, but I'd have to put an ad up or something to get this done at this rate. I know a load about modern day gaming computers as I've built many but this is beyond me.

15 December 2016, 22:31	#32
idrougge Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Stockholm Posts: 4,344	Most likely it's due to several errors on their part.

15 December 2016, 22:34	#33
Daedalus Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Dublin, then Glasgow Posts: 6,374	Well, welcome to EAB anyway, and hopefully this doesn't sour your enjoyment of an excellent machine. I'm into my "modern" computers too, but I've also had the same A1200 since about 1996, expanded way beyond recognition, and still use it regularly for software development. Where are you in England? You'd be surprised - there are many users scattered all over the country - one might be quite nearby!

15 December 2016, 22:37	#34
digitalx Registered User Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Dover Age: 34 Posts: 40	Dover in Kent. I'll this is another bash if not pack it up and try the new disks when they come.

15 December 2016, 22:42	#36
crazyc Registered User Join Date: May 2012 Location: Gravesend - UK Posts: 927	Oh you are only an hour or so from me. Whilst far far far less knowledgeable then the guys here I do have a couple of a 1200 s and I can help if you can get here over the holidays. I am in Gravesend. Sent from my S7 Edge

15 December 2016, 22:57	#37
digitalx Registered User Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Dover Age: 34 Posts: 40	I might be able to yeah, I just want it installed. Bit of a bus journey but I will see what I can do.

15 December 2016, 23:00	#38
digitalx Registered User Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Dover Age: 34 Posts: 40	Scratch gravesend, not doable sorry. Have to be phone, text or email.

15 December 2016, 23:08	#39
digitalx Registered User Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Dover Age: 34 Posts: 40	Oh for christs sake.. trying the OS install, swapping disks like mad. os install has a read error on disk block 1100 I am getting ready to throw in the towel at this rate.

15 December 2016, 23:27	#40
crazyc Registered User Join Date: May 2012 Location: Gravesend - UK Posts: 927	Ok. So just to summarise for those of us who may have had a drink tonight.... You have an unexpected a 1200. You have purchased a set of 3.1 workbench disks. And a cf card and adapter from Amiga kit. The card should have come formatted but presumably without the operating system installed or you wouldn't have these issues? Sent from my S7 Edge

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