Subliminal messages in Hawkeye pic, C64 version!

[Dunny]

Originally Posted by marco pedrana

i'm puzzled... how many colours could have on screen CBM64?
if it's 16, the GIF palette should be alike the original, or at least show only 15 colours used, while instead there are 16 different ones in this palette...

That's probably due to the GIF encoding - most encoders will try to compress as much as possible by removing hidden colours. Basically, if you have adjacent pixels of differing indexes, but which both have the same RGB values in the palette, then they can safely be removed and replaced by one index. This therefore increases the efficacy of the LZW compression by producing longer runs of the same colour.

Saving the image as a .bmp would probably retain the lost messages, unless the emulator itself is performing the optimisations.

D.

[Amiga1992]

C64 screens can have MANY more colors if you use interlace modes of others, like IFLI.

[MazinKaesar]

Originally Posted by T_hairy_bootson

Where can I buy Armalyte and how much does it cost. I gotta buy that game.

You can't... I've already bought all copies of this game!!!

[Skope]

Originally Posted by StevenJGore

Just to be picky... although undoubtedly cool, these aren't subliminal messages if they can't normally be seen!

Subliminal messages are, for example, altering 1 frame of a video with words such as "Buy this product!!". Although the brain doesn't register as seeing it (ie. you don't notice it) you subconsciously want to buy the product.

TV adverts have to follow guidelines that any text or images on screen should exist for a minimum of 4 frames, although this varies from country to country.

Steve.

I guess it's quite possible to flash the bg-color with another one for one frame and thus making the message perceptable subconsciously. (:

[mcbpete]

Hmm, I've just taken a screenshot from a .tap of Hawkeye and pasted it into Photoshop, replaced the black colour with white and no 'hidden' message found anywhere on the loading screen ....

[Dunny]

Originally Posted by mcbpete

Hmm, I've just taken a screenshot from a .tap of Hawkeye and pasted it into Photoshop, replaced the black colour with white and no 'hidden' message found anywhere on the loading screen ....

Depends how you did the screenshot. If you used the emulator's built-in screenshot facility then you've probably found that there is no hidden message. Mind you, it depends on how the screenshot is generated - if it's not a raw dump of screen memory then it might remove the hidden message in the saving process. If you use Prt-Scr then you definitely won't see the message.

D.

[Leffmann]

Originally Posted by mcbpete

Hmm, I've just taken a screenshot from a .tap of Hawkeye and pasted it into Photoshop, replaced the black colour with white and no 'hidden' message found anywhere on the loading screen ....

This color information only exists in the emulated C64's memory, and is effectively lost when you take a screenshot which will only contain what is immediately seen on the screen.

You can see the hidden message if you change the foreground color of the emulated C64 during the loading screen:

[Mad-Matt]

With a little help from good old action replay.

Edit: Damn it, Didnt see leffmans post while I was working on this .

[Retro1234]

We should have Subliminal messages here on EAB if there arnt already






Throw your PC away

[hitchhikr]

There's such hidden text in the title pic of this demo: http://bitworld.bitfellas.org/demo.php?id=212

[Leffmann]

Graphics artist's initials perhaps?

[StingRay]

Originally Posted by Leffmann

Graphics artist's initials perhaps?

M.A.D. = [ Show youtube player ], a cracking group that later became a part of Paradox IIRC.

[Nostalgeek]

We should have Subliminal messages here on EAB if there arnt already

EAB is already a Subliminal message in itself, which says: "you're getting old, pal"

[Retro1234]

Very True