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CSMKII ram is not in the zorro space.
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22 April 2020, 23:03 | #3863 |
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PCI memory is aligned on same boundary as its size.
So 256MB MB for the Radeon is aligned on a 256MB boundary. This leaves one 256MB block. Already a 1MB config block will reduce the next biggest block to be 128MB as there is no longer a 256MB boundary to align on. So something like: $60000000-$70000000 Radeon mem $70000000-$71000000 Radeon config ...more small stuff... $78000000-$80000000 PPC card memory $60000000-$62000000 Voodoo mem $62000000-$64000000 more voodoo mem $64000000-$64100000 voodoo config .....more small stuff.... $70000000-$7C000000 Sonnet memory or: $68000000-$70000000 Harrier mem 1 (128MB) $70000000-$80000000 Harrier mem 2 (256MB for a total of 384MB) The A1200 mediator does MMU trickery which places all the memory at $20000000. The same trickery that makes the library fail on anything but very simple stuff. |
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Sonnet 7200 PCI programming
Very interesting and explains why MuScan shows a difference on the A1200 to the A4000
So That’s why it only works with MMU = yes in the ENVARC:Mediator folder on the A1200 Now I don’t know much about memory addressing but will MMULibs allow me to adjust what the mediator is addressing the reason I ask is user Fitzsteve A1200 Killer build show little differences in his MuScan and I would of thought it would have been more or less the same Is there a list of all the ENVARC: Settings ,I’ve seen the ones shown in the good config section of the GitHub, but it doesn’t say where they should go ie the gfxaddr only found out that it should live in the PowerPC folder and not the Mediator folder by accident, and it would be good to have an idea of what what they do Last edited by Timtheloon; 23 April 2020 at 08:15. |
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OK, so I take it that is the same for the terminator and force options? @grelbfarlk do you have a “good config” setup for me to follow for my A4000? I currently have an Apocalypse 128MB in mine and although it can be stable with most apps I have tried it can be a bit temperamental at times. So basically all the option I should have in the mediator/PowerPC/Sonnet section of ENVARC The MMU-Configurations options at the end of the GitHub “good config” I take it are only viable on the A4000 then and no good on the A1200 due to the way the A1200 Mediator maps its memory |
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real WOS options like gfxaddr, termination etc are not part or needed for the PCI PPC cards.
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Also stuff like which video card you have and what slots and in what order the PCI cards are installed. |
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Off course, right when I want to install my Apocalypse the Jenkins with the software is down for maintenance or some other issue Anybody has an alternative download location for the Sonnet software?
Is 17.2 on Aminet the latest? Last edited by spudje; 25 April 2020 at 21:43. |
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Hooray! I finally got my apocalypse working today. It was all down to the order of the cards which I never realised was such a problem until I read back through the thread. Current order which works for me in my 4000D (in tower) from bottom to top 1- Mediator bridge board, 2- SpiderUSB, 3- Apocalypse, 4- 10mb NIC, 5- empty, 6- Radeon. Just need to finding a working voodoo as the one I bought recently was Dead on Arrival. Tested though with the warpup demos and seems to be working well.
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Thanks to johhnybarker I could make my entry into the Apocalypse
So I first had it setup like this: Mediator logic card Nothing Voodoo Apocalypse NIC But that gave me random readouts with PCIInfo. Sometimes sort of correct, sometimes with many "illegal vendor name" PCI devices. Some examples below. Then I switched to Mediator logic card Nothing Voodoo Nothing Apocalypse That at least was more consistent. All demos ran. Tried Quake2 and it all seemed fine, but alas, a Guru: 810000FF : A quick interrupt has happened to an uninitialised vector So it actually works in the last slot. No real warmup times needed, but not (yet) stable. May still be my Mediator causing the Guru? The only bad thing about the Apocalypse is the terrible fan on the carrier board, that sometimes simply stops spinning. Requires some help to keep going again, so I guess it needs replacing. This one seems correct: Code:
Pci Device 1: VendorID: $121a VendorName: 3Dfx Interactive, Inc. DeviceID: $5 DeviceName: Voodoo 3 ClassCode: $30000 RevisionID: $1 InterruptPin: 2 SubsystemVendorID: $121a SubsystemID: $57 MemSpace0: $40000000 - $41ffffff MemSpace1: $42000000 - $43ffffff IOSpace2: $60c06000 - $60c060ff RomSpace: $44000000 - $4400ffff Pci Device 2: VendorID: $1057 VendorName: Motorola DeviceID: $480b DeviceName: Unknown ClassCode: $60000 RevisionID: $2 InterruptPin: 3 SubsystemVendorID: $0 SubsystemID: $1057 Pci Device 3: VendorID: $10ec VendorName: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. DeviceID: $8029 DeviceName: RTL-8029(AS) ClassCode: $20000 RevisionID: $0 InterruptPin: 4 SubsystemVendorID: $0 SubsystemID: $0 IOSpace0: $60c06100 - $60c0611f RomSpace: $44100000 - $44107fff Code:
CPU: PPC 7410 (PVR = 800C1104) CPU clock: 450.000000 MHz Bus clock: 100.000000 MHz Instruction Cache: ON and UNLOCKED Data Cache: ON and UNLOCKED Page table location: 07F00000 Page table size: 1024 KBytes PPC Uptime: 31.642127 seconds CPU load: 0.00% System load: 0.00% L2 Cache: ENABLED L2 State: COPY-BACK L2 Size: 1024 KBytes FPU Align Emulation: 0 times DSI Emulation: 186 times Run68K called: 1 times These are a couple of weird ones: Code:
Pci Device 1: VendorID: $1057 VendorName: Motorola DeviceID: $480b DeviceName: Unknown ClassCode: $ffffff RevisionID: $ff InterruptPin: 0 SubsystemVendorID: $ffff SubsystemID: $ffff IOSpace1: $60c06000 - $60c06003 IOSpace2: $60c06100 - $60c06103 IOSpace3: $60c06200 - $60c06203 IOSpace4: $60c06300 - $60c06303 IOSpace5: $60c06400 - $60c06403 RomSpace: $60c06500 - $60c0650f Pci Device 2: VendorID: $121a VendorName: 3Dfx Interactive, Inc. DeviceID: $5 DeviceName: Voodoo 3 ClassCode: $30000 RevisionID: $1 InterruptPin: 2 SubsystemVendorID: $121a SubsystemID: $57 MemSpace0: $40000000 - $41ffffff MemSpace1: $42000000 - $43ffffff IOSpace2: $60c06600 - $60c066ff RomSpace: $44000000 - $4400ffff Pci Device 3: VendorID: $1057 VendorName: Motorola DeviceID: $480b DeviceName: Unknown ClassCode: $60000 RevisionID: $2 InterruptPin: 3 SubsystemVendorID: $0 SubsystemID: $1057 Pci Device 4: VendorID: $10ec VendorName: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. DeviceID: $8029 DeviceName: RTL-8029(AS) ClassCode: $20000 RevisionID: $0 InterruptPin: 4 SubsystemVendorID: $0 SubsystemID: $0 IOSpace0: $60c06700 - $60c0671f RomSpace: $44100000 - $44107fff Pci Device 5: VendorID: $ffff VendorName: Illegal Vendor ID DeviceID: $9fff DeviceName: Unknown ClassCode: $ffffff RevisionID: $ff InterruptPin: 0 SubsystemVendorID: $1057 SubsystemID: $480b IOSpace0: $60c06800 - $60c06803 IOSpace1: $60c06900 - $60c06903 IOSpace2: $60c06a00 - $60c06a03 IOSpace3: $60c06b00 - $60c06b03 IOSpace4: $60c06c00 - $60c06c03 IOSpace5: $60c06d00 - $60c06d03 RomSpace: $60c06e00 - $60c06e0f Code:
Pci Device 1: VendorID: $1057 VendorName: Motorola DeviceID: $480b DeviceName: Unknown ClassCode: $ffffff RevisionID: $ff InterruptPin: 0 SubsystemVendorID: $ffff SubsystemID: $ffff IOSpace3: $60c06000 - $60c06003 RomSpace: $60c06100 - $60c0610f Pci Device 2: VendorID: $1057 VendorName: Motorola DeviceID: $480b DeviceName: Unknown ClassCode: $105700 RevisionID: $0 InterruptPin: 0 SubsystemVendorID: $ffff SubsystemID: $d92b IOSpace2: $60c06200 - $60c06203 IOSpace4: $60c06300 - $60c06303 Pci Device 3: VendorID: $c00 VendorName: Unknown DeviceID: $0 DeviceName: Unknown ClassCode: $105700 RevisionID: $0 InterruptPin: 0 SubsystemVendorID: $0 SubsystemID: $1057 IOSpace0: $60c06400 - $60c06403 IOSpace1: $60c06500 - $60c06503 IOSpace4: $60c06600 - $60c06603 RomSpace: $60c06700 - $60c0670f Pci Device 4: VendorID: $104 VendorName: Unknown DeviceID: $42a0 DeviceName: Unknown ClassCode: $dbbcff RevisionID: $ff InterruptPin: 0 SubsystemVendorID: $ffff SubsystemID: $ffff IOSpace2: $60c06800 - $60c06803 IOSpace3: $60c06900 - $60c06903 RomSpace: $60c06a00 - $60c06a0f Pci Device 5: VendorID: $104 VendorName: Unknown DeviceID: $42a0 DeviceName: Unknown ClassCode: $60000 RevisionID: $4 InterruptPin: 0 SubsystemVendorID: $ffff SubsystemID: $ffff IOSpace0: $60c06b00 - $60c06b03 IOSpace3: $60c06c00 - $60c06c03 IOSpace4: $60c06d00 - $60c06d03 Pci Device 6: VendorID: $104 VendorName: Unknown DeviceID: $42a0 DeviceName: Unknown ClassCode: $42a0ff RevisionID: $ff InterruptPin: 0 SubsystemVendorID: $ffff SubsystemID: $ffff IOSpace3: $60c06e00 - $60c06e03 IOSpace5: $60c06f00 - $60c06f03 RomSpace: $60c07000 - $60c0700f Pci Device 7: VendorID: $121a VendorName: 3Dfx Interactive, Inc. DeviceID: $5 DeviceName: Voodoo 3 ClassCode: $30000 RevisionID: $1 InterruptPin: 2 SubsystemVendorID: $121a SubsystemID: $57 MemSpace0: $40000000 - $41ffffff MemSpace1: $42000000 - $43ffffff IOSpace2: $60c07100 - $60c071ff RomSpace: $44000000 - $4400ffff Pci Device 8: VendorID: $1057 VendorName: Motorola DeviceID: $480b DeviceName: Unknown ClassCode: $60000 RevisionID: $2 InterruptPin: 3 SubsystemVendorID: $0 SubsystemID: $1057 Pci Device 9: VendorID: $800 VendorName: Unknown DeviceID: $0 DeviceName: Unknown ClassCode: $ffffff RevisionID: $ff InterruptPin: 0 SubsystemVendorID: $1057 SubsystemID: $480b IOSpace0: $60c07200 - $60c07203 IOSpace1: $60c07300 - $60c07303 IOSpace2: $60c07400 - $60c07403 IOSpace3: $60c07500 - $60c07503 IOSpace4: $60c07600 - $60c07603 IOSpace5: $60c07700 - $60c07703 Pci Device 10: VendorID: $ffff VendorName: Illegal Vendor ID DeviceID: $dbac DeviceName: Unknown ClassCode: $d92bff RevisionID: $ff InterruptPin: 0 SubsystemVendorID: $1057 SubsystemID: $480b IOSpace0: $60c07800 - $60c07803 IOSpace1: $60c07900 - $60c07903 IOSpace3: $60c07a00 - $60c07a03 IOSpace4: $60c07b00 - $60c07b03 RomSpace: $60c07c00 - $60c07c0f Pci Device 11: VendorID: $ffff VendorName: Illegal Vendor ID DeviceID: $dbbc DeviceName: Unknown ClassCode: $ffffff RevisionID: $ff InterruptPin: 0 SubsystemVendorID: $1057 SubsystemID: $480b IOSpace0: $60c07d00 - $60c07d03 IOSpace1: $60c07e00 - $60c07e03 IOSpace2: $60c07f00 - $60c07f03 IOSpace5: $60c08000 - $60c08003 Pci Device 12: VendorID: $ffff VendorName: Illegal Vendor ID DeviceID: $dfff DeviceName: Unknown ClassCode: $ffffff RevisionID: $ff InterruptPin: 0 SubsystemVendorID: $1057 SubsystemID: $480b IOSpace0: $60c08100 - $60c08103 IOSpace3: $60c08200 - $60c08203 IOSpace5: $60c08300 - $60c08303 RomSpace: $60c08400 - $60c0840f Pci Device 13: VendorID: $0 VendorName: Unknown DeviceID: $400b DeviceName: Unknown ClassCode: $480b10 RevisionID: $57 InterruptPin: 0 SubsystemVendorID: $1057 SubsystemID: $480b IOSpace0: $60c08500 - $60c08503 IOSpace2: $60c08600 - $60c08603 IOSpace3: $60c08700 - $60c08703 Pci Device 14: VendorID: $8200 VendorName: Unknown DeviceID: $0 DeviceName: Unknown ClassCode: $105700 RevisionID: $0 InterruptPin: 0 SubsystemVendorID: $ffff SubsystemID: $42a0 IOSpace0: $60c08800 - $60c08803 IOSpace2: $60c08900 - $60c08903 IOSpace3: $60c08a00 - $60c08a03 IOSpace4: $60c08b00 - $60c08b03 IOSpace5: $60c08c00 - $60c08c03 Pci Device 15: VendorID: $ffff VendorName: Illegal Vendor ID DeviceID: $42a0 DeviceName: Unknown ClassCode: $ffffff RevisionID: $ff InterruptPin: 0 SubsystemVendorID: $1057 SubsystemID: $480b IOSpace0: $60c08d00 - $60c08d03 IOSpace1: $60c08e00 - $60c08e03 IOSpace2: $60c08f00 - $60c08f03 IOSpace5: $60c09000 - $60c09003 RomSpace: $60c09100 - $60c0910f Last edited by spudje; 26 April 2020 at 01:26. |
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This is typical behavior of either power problems or PCI data bus corruption due to card order or having a problematic PCI card plugged in. You have the swap jumper closed?
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Or incorrectly seated cards, or lack of contact due to dirt/dust.
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You mean the guru or the weird pciinfo listing.
Well, power issues I don't believe anymore, I have 3 different PSUs now. The CSPPC is out and replaced by a a3640 so no RAM issues from there. All jumpers are closed on the mediator. So it's either card order or in the end still that damn 3V mediator. But I have a practical issue too, the fan on the carrier board is only connected with 1 too short screw. What diameter screws would go in there typically m2 or m1.6? Last edited by spudje; 26 April 2020 at 12:01. |
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Different positions again:
logic board nothing apocalypse nothing voodoo PCIinfo now gives correct info on a pretty consistent basis, no weird info seen yet. Tried Wipeout this time, but again after about 15 minutes guru 8100 00FF. This time no zorro cards in (no BigRAM+ and USB card, not on purpose, simply because I forgot) and no PCI NIC. But as seen, no difference really. I'll try again with the latest build of the library now that the site is up again. |
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spudje, if you send me your mediator logic card I will be happy to test it
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Thanks for the offer. I may consider that. But prefer to send the whole thing then, including daughter board, just to be sure. I'll wait a bit if I don't get another one offered or loaned for myself, then I'll probably come back to you.
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