Amiga questions you've always been too embarrassed to ask

[No.3]

Many commodities quit when they are run a second time.

[Torti-the-Smurf]

Not Copper-Demon

[No.3]

kay... read the .guide

[Torti-the-Smurf]

I did...; thats why i ask if such a cli tool exist

[No.3]

then read again

the "tool" is delivered with the OS

Signals
quit
debug messages
CTRL/E force refresh all screens
popup
Signals can be sent by pressing the keys or by Break.

[Torti-the-Smurf]

It says, you can quit it with a Hotkey, a CTRL Signal, with Exchange or closing it with its closing gatget.

You can check the arguments with Copper-Demon ?

There is no Quit option via Cli.

Of what do i miss here ?

Yeah, it mentions the Break Command. (i think i never used that in my 35 years with AMIGA)

How ? hmmmm....

[Torti-the-Smurf]

AHA ...!!!! so. ... the CLI command

Break C Process 2

is killing Copper-Demon.

The Guide did not tell me that... well, not really ...

So i have finally a use for the Break command...after over 35 years.

Thanks No.3

[kremiso]

Originally Posted by ghosty777

I've got one :-

Why didn't Kickstart 2.04+ file-system disks have many custom bootblocks like earlier Kickstart disks?

I've got a pack of around 650 bootblocks (Working my way through looking at them) & most appear to be for OFS disks. Thanks.

i think mainly due the early boot introducted with Kickstart2.x; i mean, many custom OCS bootblock shared the same options afterall, like disable extra drives, Fast RAM, PAL/NTSC switch etc

the essential ones were added in the early boot

[No.3]

Originally Posted by Torti-the-Smurf

So i have finally a use for the Break command...after over 35 years.

It's never to late to learn something about the Amiga (and actually I also never used Break in my daily Amiga life).

Originally Posted by Torti-the-Smurf

Break C Process 2

If you run Copper-Demon in the Startup-Sequence (or the like) Copper-Demon most likely will always be Process 2, but it would be a good idea to Break by the Name?!

[fryguy]

Originally Posted by nogginthenog

Project romdisk - Boot your Amiga from ROM

https://github.com/cnvogelg/romdisk

Thanks, looks like exactly what I need

[Torti-the-Smurf]

Originally Posted by No.3

It's never to late to learn something about the Amiga (and actually I also never used Break in my daily Amiga life).

If you run Copper-Demon in the Startup-Sequence (or the like) Copper-Demon most likely will always be Process 2, but it would be a good idea to Break by the Name?!

Hi 3

Yeah, its good to learn something new. Maybe i never wanted to "break" something on the Amiga...
... or had ever the need to use it...; until now

I have tried it with the name, but that did not work
(double checked with sys infos task list)

Besides, the Number 2 is shorter than a Word; so that saves a few bytes in the script file

I use it just for one game .. and after exiting the game, Copper-Demon is back with its beautiful Copper Background

Thanks 3 !

[Captain_ Kal]

Questions I am to embarrassed to ask:

1) We have Emu68K which is a fine piece of software!! How difficult is to create a EmuPPC and run OS4 on Pi?

2) Hardware requirements for OS4 (or other derivatives ),point to obsolete and expensive hardware!! How difficult is to port them to Pi4/Pi5.

If the above questions, don't make sense to anyone, please disregard them !!! I had too many glasses of wine!!!!!

[jman]

This has bugged me for a long time: what for is a real-time clock actually useful in an Amiga classic computer?


I can think of showing the right date and time on Workbench and keep consistent timestamps of modified user files (documents or other config files).


I feel there's more behind this, though, but for an offline-first platform like the Amiga I cannot imagine for what else could that be useful.



Thanks!

[NLS]

Erm, no. You pretty much replied yourself.

[Daedalus]

That's pretty much the function of the RTC. On the A3000 it can also store setting for the SCSI controller for example, but keeping track of the time independent of any external source (e.g. internet time server) is the main function of the real-time clock. And that's very useful IMHO - having accurate file modification dates can be quite useful when you use the Amiga for creating anything.

[grond]

Having the right times set for files is useful also when you are using makefiles and a make type program for compiling larger programming projects and only want to recompile those source files that actually changed since the last exectuable was generated.

[appiah4]

Originally Posted by jman

This has bugged me for a long time: what for is a real-time clock actually useful in an Amiga classic computer?

I can think of showing the right date and time on Workbench and keep consistent timestamps of modified user files (documents or other config files).

I feel there's more behind this, though, but for an offline-first platform like the Amiga I cannot imagine for what else could that be useful.

Thanks!

The lack of RTC in the Amiga is a reflection of how the business environment was a complete oversight in its design IMO.

[grond]

Originally Posted by appiah4

The lack of RTC in the Amiga is a reflection of how the business environment was a complete oversight in its design IMO.

Speaking of this I have a question that fits this thread: which Amiga models came with a pre-installed RTC? The A3000 and the A500+, right? Any more?

[Daedalus]

Yep, the A3000 and A500+, and the A2000 (and its variants, e.g. A1500) and A4000.

[grond]

Originally Posted by Daedalus

Yep, the A3000 and A500+, and the A2000 (and its variants, e.g. A1500) and A4000.

OK, so the big-boxes that addressed the professional market had it (not counting the A1000) as did the A500+ which basically was just the A500 with its most popular add-on included from the factory. This seems plausible.

Thanks!