KTRL CD32 - Amiga CD32 custom gamepad - Page 15

wairnair · 25 June 2018, 10:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by MickGyver

That would be 44€ with airmail shipping, same price for entire Europe. Should I add you to my list?

Yes, please do. Thanks!

Twiggy · 28 June 2018, 10:14

Amazing work! Keep it up! \m/

scoopex · 28 June 2018, 12:28

interestet in 2 Full-Kit´s

LoneWolf · 28 June 2018, 15:55

Interested in the Assembled and tested gamepad. Please message me the payment info when you have a chance.

x56h34 · 28 June 2018, 16:18

How much for a fully assembled pad with shipping to Toronto, Ontario, Canada?

Thanks.

28 June 2018, 22:48

I am getting excited with everyone's good comments on it.. I wonder where I am on the list..

Just watched one of Dan Wood's videos and he had one.. looked pretty sweet

MickGyver · 29 June 2018, 11:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by wairnair

Yes, please do. Thanks!

Done!

Quote:

Originally Posted by twiggy

Amazing work! Keep it up! \m/

Thanks!

Quote:

Originally Posted by scoopex

interestet in 2 Full-Kit´s

Cool, I have added you to my list!

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoneWolf

Interested in the Assembled and tested gamepad. Please message me the payment info when you have a chance.

10-4, I have added you to my list!

Quote:

Originally Posted by x56h34

How much for a fully assembled pad with shipping to Toronto, Ontario, Canada?

Thanks.

That would be 55€ including express shipping.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bonoedgey

I am getting excited with everyone's good comments on it.. I wonder where I am on the list..

Just watched one of Dan Wood's videos and he had one.. looked pretty sweet

You are lucky number 13!

str0m · 29 June 2018, 11:36

Have I moved up the list?

Think I also saw the same video which reminded me!

kriz · 29 June 2018, 11:39

Nice stuff, how long waiting list is it now and do you pay before getting them or when you send them ? Thanks..

LoneWolf · 29 June 2018, 16:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by MickGyver

Done!

Cool, I have added you to my list!

10-4, I have added you to my list!

Awesome thanks!

strygo · 30 June 2018, 14:34

Hi there! I'm interested in one fully assembled controller. Thank you!

lmimmfn · 30 June 2018, 16:40

Also interested in an Assembled and Tested one, message me for payment etc. Thanks

phantomphanatic · 02 July 2018, 00:10

Hi MickGyver, sorry about not getting back to you earlier. Yes I'm still interested in a tested pad. Would be great if you could add me to the list.
Thanks

Daedalus · 02 July 2018, 22:13

@MickGyver

Thanks for the kit, received and built

It's a very well presented kit, well done! 2-button mode works perfectly here (A1200 1D4), but I'm having a slight problem with it in CD32 mode. The buttons seem jittery and shifted slightly, almost as if the timing was off. For example, pressing pause will cause the response to flicker between left shoulder button and pause, left shoulder button will flicker to right shoulder button and so on. It's as if the readings are shifted half a clock pulse late. I was trying this with my own test software, so just in case it was me I tried Systest and JoyPortTest and found they're also doing the same thing. Red and blue continue to work fine in CD32 pad mode.

To investigate I connected up my scope... only to find that it worked perfectly with the probe connected to pin 6. Obviously the probe will only present a very small load, but there must be something in it (impedance, capacitance or both?) that's just enough to drag the timing into spec. Any thoughts on what might be happening?

Edit: I've tried it on an A500 with Systest and it's working fine, so it appears my A1200 is a little funky after all, but in a different way to the button 2 thing that lots of other people are seeing... Damn Amigas!

MickGyver · 03 July 2018, 00:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daedalus

@MickGyver

Thanks for the kit, received and built

It's a very well presented kit, well done! 2-button mode works perfectly here (A1200 1D4), but I'm having a slight problem with it in CD32 mode. The buttons seem jittery and shifted slightly, almost as if the timing was off. For example, pressing pause will cause the response to flicker between left shoulder button and pause, left shoulder button will flicker to right shoulder button and so on. It's as if the readings are shifted half a clock pulse late. I was trying this with my own test software, so just in case it was me I tried Systest and JoyPortTest and found they're also doing the same thing. Red and blue continue to work fine in CD32 pad mode.

To investigate I connected up my scope... only to find that it worked perfectly with the probe connected to pin 6. Obviously the probe will only present a very small load, but there must be something in it (impedance, capacitance or both?) that's just enough to drag the timing into spec. Any thoughts on what might be happening?

Edit: I've tried it on an A500 with Systest and it's working fine, so it appears my A1200 is a little funky after all, but in a different way to the button 2 thing that lots of other people are seeing... Damn Amigas!

Sorry to hear it's not working for you.

I don't know the reason for the problem, but it seems to affect some A1200 machines. I recently borrowed an 1D4 machine and the gamepad was working perfectly on that (I wished it wouldn't have). It is confirmed working on some 1D4 machines but not on others.

It probably has something to do with signal integrity, maybe the capacitance of the scope probe is enough to make it work on your machine. I don't have access to an A1200 that the gamepad is not working on so I haven't been able to do much troubleshooting. I was hoping it wouldn't have worked on the 1D4 I borrowed.

You could try piggybacking the other 22pF to C9 if you already didn't do that (or replace C9 with a 47pF cap), alternatively add a 22pf between pin 6 and ground.

A1200/A600 machines have 68ohm resistors for pins 5,6 and 9 instead of ferrites (all other Amigas have ferrites, which I guess is better for signal integrity).

Since you have the skillz and an A1200 that the gamepad is not working on, you could provide very useful troubleshoting information if you are willing to help me.

Daedalus · 03 July 2018, 11:32

Absolutely, I'd be very happy to help if I can. I had intended to grab some waveforms to send you, but the scope had other ideas

I tried piggybacking the second 22pF capacitor at C9, but I can try adding various capacitors and resistors across pin 6 to see how it reacts.

03 July 2018, 13:43

Hi,

My pad arrived over the weekend and it works on my CD32 perfectly.

It is an absolute delight to use and I am over the moon with it!

Thank you so much Mick, amazing work

MickGyver · 04 July 2018, 08:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by str0m

Have I moved up the list?

Think I also saw the same video which reminded me!

Yep, you are number 5.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kriz

Nice stuff, how long waiting list is it now and do you pay before getting them or when you send them ? Thanks..

The list is not too long but I can't really estimate how much time I have to assemble controllers. I don't accept any payment before I have a controller ready, I add you to my list and will contact you when I have a controller ready for shipping.

Quote:

Originally Posted by strygo

Hi there! I'm interested in one fully assembled controller. Thank you!

Ok, I added you to my list!

Quote:

Originally Posted by lmimmfn

Also interested in an Assembled and Tested one, message me for payment etc. Thanks

I added you to my list and will be in contact later!

Quote:

Originally Posted by phantomphanatic

Hi MickGyver, sorry about not getting back to you earlier. Yes I'm still interested in a tested pad. Would be great if you could add me to the list.
Thanks

I added you to my list already when I got your first message.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcflyio

Hi,

My pad arrived over the weekend and it works on my CD32 perfectly.

It is an absolute delight to use and I am over the moon with it!

Thank you so much Mick, amazing work

Nice, glad to hear that, thanks!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daedalus

Absolutely, I'd be very happy to help if I can. I had intended to grab some waveforms to send you, but the scope had other ideas

I tried piggybacking the second 22pF capacitor at C9, but I can try adding various capacitors and resistors across pin 6 to see how it reacts.

Thank you, much appreciated! Do you have another power supply to try? I had problems when developing the KTRL before I recapped my power supply.

MarkBogaard · 04 July 2018, 18:57

Hi, I hope I haven’t been forgotten. My cd32 is coming back from a recap this week and would love to stop using the crappy PlayStation converter haha

thairacerjp · 04 July 2018, 19:36

I MickGyver ! and congratulation for your nice product success , I have a psx with converter and a crappy Amipad32 , did I will have more satisfaction with your pad ? I think yes but can you tell me the advantage ? (multi buttons, setup), thanks !! , it's for CD32, any compatibility problem ?
jean

02 July 2018, 22:13	#294
Daedalus Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Dublin, then Glasgow Posts: 6,368	@MickGyver Thanks for the kit, received and built It's a very well presented kit, well done! 2-button mode works perfectly here (A1200 1D4), but I'm having a slight problem with it in CD32 mode. The buttons seem jittery and shifted slightly, almost as if the timing was off. For example, pressing pause will cause the response to flicker between left shoulder button and pause, left shoulder button will flicker to right shoulder button and so on. It's as if the readings are shifted half a clock pulse late. I was trying this with my own test software, so just in case it was me I tried Systest and JoyPortTest and found they're also doing the same thing. Red and blue continue to work fine in CD32 pad mode. To investigate I connected up my scope... only to find that it worked perfectly with the probe connected to pin 6. Obviously the probe will only present a very small load, but there must be something in it (impedance, capacitance or both?) that's just enough to drag the timing into spec. Any thoughts on what might be happening? Edit: I've tried it on an A500 with Systest and it's working fine, so it appears my A1200 is a little funky after all, but in a different way to the button 2 thing that lots of other people are seeing... Damn Amigas! Last edited by Daedalus; 02 July 2018 at 22:53.

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28 June 2018, 10:14	#282
Twiggy \m/ Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Devon, U.K. Posts: 573	Amazing work! Keep it up! \m/

28 June 2018, 12:28	#283
scoopex Registered User Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: Hannover Posts: 1	interestet in 2 Full-Kit´s

28 June 2018, 15:55	#284
LoneWolf Registered User Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: San German,PR Posts: 33	Interested in the Assembled and tested gamepad. Please message me the payment info when you have a chance.

28 June 2018, 16:18	#285
x56h34 Registered User Join Date: May 2014 Location: Toronto / Canada Posts: 19	How much for a fully assembled pad with shipping to Toronto, Ontario, Canada? Thanks.

28 June 2018, 22:48	#286
bonoedgey Posts: n/a	I am getting excited with everyone's good comments on it.. I wonder where I am on the list.. Just watched one of Dan Wood's videos and he had one.. looked pretty sweet

29 June 2018, 11:36	#288
str0m Registered User Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Newcastle, UK Posts: 266	Have I moved up the list? Think I also saw the same video which reminded me!

29 June 2018, 11:39	#289
kriz Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: No(R)Way Age: 42 Posts: 3,210	Nice stuff, how long waiting list is it now and do you pay before getting them or when you send them ? Thanks..

30 June 2018, 14:34	#291
strygo Registered User Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: Woodinville, WA Posts: 1	Hi there! I'm interested in one fully assembled controller. Thank you!

30 June 2018, 16:40	#292
lmimmfn Registered User Join Date: May 2018 Location: Ireland Posts: 684	Also interested in an Assembled and Tested one, message me for payment etc. Thanks

02 July 2018, 00:10	#293
phantomphanatic Registered User Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: BIRMINGHAM Posts: 23	Hi MickGyver, sorry about not getting back to you earlier. Yes I'm still interested in a tested pad. Would be great if you could add me to the list. Thanks

03 July 2018, 11:32	#296
Daedalus Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Dublin, then Glasgow Posts: 6,368	Absolutely, I'd be very happy to help if I can. I had intended to grab some waveforms to send you, but the scope had other ideas I tried piggybacking the second 22pF capacitor at C9, but I can try adding various capacitors and resistors across pin 6 to see how it reacts.

03 July 2018, 13:43	#297
mcflyio Posts: n/a	Hi, My pad arrived over the weekend and it works on my CD32 perfectly. It is an absolute delight to use and I am over the moon with it! Thank you so much Mick, amazing work

04 July 2018, 18:57	#299
MarkBogaard Registered User Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Netherlands Posts: 11	Hi, I hope I haven’t been forgotten. My cd32 is coming back from a recap this week and would love to stop using the crappy PlayStation converter haha

04 July 2018, 19:36	#300
thairacerjp Registered User Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: FRANCE Posts: 375	I MickGyver ! and congratulation for your nice product success , I have a psx with converter and a crappy Amipad32 , did I will have more satisfaction with your pad ? I think yes but can you tell me the advantage ? (multi buttons, setup), thanks !! , it's for CD32, any compatibility problem ? jean

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