TOSEC Amiga Correction Thread - Page 15

TCD · 07 March 2011, 21:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sektor 83

Is that right? First time doing this, y'see!

Much better

mai · 09 March 2011, 18:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sektor 83

TOSEC/Diskmags/G

Grapevine - Issue 19 (1994-04-12)(LSD)(Disk 1 of 3) - crc: 7BA17A22
-> Grapevine - Issue 19 (1994-04-12)(LSD)(Disk 1 of 3)[v Eleni]

TOSEC/Compilations/Applications

ACU Compact Disk 05 (19xx)(ACU) - crc: 98E4E89D
-> ACU Compact Disk 05 (19xx)(ACU)[v CList]

Tribe Utilities 05 (19xx)(Tribe) - crc: DC07FA31
-> Tribe Utilities 05 (19xx)(Tribe)[v CCCP]

Member "Crashdisk" has reportrd this viruses already, see post:
http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=...&postcount=228
Its fixed in current WIP, thanks anyway.

MethodGit · 13 March 2011, 05:47

Some extended information regarding the Embryo ADFs (the "Disk 1"s anyway)...

There are two known revisions of the game, 196 and 197. The following ADFs below seem to vary with these two. They are also cracked differently from one another.

Embryo (1994)(Black Legend)(M3)(Disk 1 of 5)[cr PDX].adf c4305162
Revision 197, cracktro, all patch code in executable, but gurus upon pressing Return on the manual protection screen due to a bad BRA setting in said code.

Embryo (1994)(Black Legend)(M3)(Disk 1 of 5)[cr PDX][a].adf 87e9526e
Revision 196, no cracktro, patch code divided between executable and seperate patch file, both protection and checksum cracked so game starts okay.

Embryo (1994)(Black Legend)(M3)(Disk 1 of 5)[cr PDX][a2].adf 029fa494
Revision 196, no cracktro, patch file, exe matches that of [a].

Embryo (1994)(Black Legend)(M3)(Disk 1 of 5)[cr PDX][a3].adf e9ec57ff
Revision 197, cracktro, exe matches that of the first one (including the BRA cockup, so this also gurus).

Embryo (1994)(Black Legend)(M3)(Disk 1 of 5)[cr PDX][a4].adf bf9975c5
This is actually another copy of the ATX trained disk, so should at least have "[t +2 ATX]" in the name. Aside from that:
Revision 196, cracktro, patch file, exe matches that of [a]. Only problem with loading both a cracktro and a trainer is that they both eat up enough memory on a 512k/512k/AR3 setup for the game to complain of not finding enough spare memory (after the company logos) and will quit out upon pressing LMB.

Embryo (1994)(Black Legend)(M3)(Disk 1 of 5)[cr PDX][t +2 ATX].adf
Revision 196, no cracktro but the ATX trainer loads instead, patch file, exe matches that of [a]. Looking at the contents of this disk suggests that this uses files from Prodigy's crack fix for the Paradox release (presumably they must have noticed the typo in the code also =P), which must explain the "doit" file I've come across previously. So while they fudged up the German crack they also managed to correct PDX's own little gaffe!

Another interesting note: with all the r196 disks, you have to fill the code space in full on the protection screen before the Return/Enter key will do anything, whereas with the r197 disks you can press Return/Enter at any time (after the scrolling has finished) to trigger the rest of the code.

TCD · 13 March 2011, 09:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by mai

MethodGit, you are using an old TOSEC release, the [cr SR] bit is already added, try to update your TOSEC collection.

For example :

Quote:

Originally Posted by MethodGit

Embryo (1994)(Black Legend)(M3)(Disk 1 of 5)[cr PDX][a4].adf bf9975c5
This is actually another copy of the ATX trained disk, so should at least have "[t +2 ATX]" in the name. Aside from that:
Revision 196, cracktro, patch file, exe matches that of [a]. Only problem with loading both a cracktro and a trainer is that they both eat up enough memory on a 512k/512k/AR3 setup for the game to complain of not finding enough spare memory (after the company logos) and will quit out upon pressing LMB.

is already 'Embryo (1994)(Black Legend)(M3)(Disk 1 of 5)[cr PDX][f crack PDY][t +2 ATX]' in the latest DAT.

MethodGit · 13 March 2011, 20:03

I can only get by what's currently available at eab.whdownload.com.

Having already spent an epic age downloading the last major collection, I'm not really in a rush to do the same for another update so soon. Perhaps if someone were to mirror the latest TOSEC collection file-by-file (if they had the resources of course), I wouldn't be so desperately out-of-date with my findings. =P

TCD · 13 March 2011, 20:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by MethodGit

I can only get by what's currently available at eab.whdownload.com.

You could at least rename the ones you have with the DATs form the TOSEC page. You can even just download the DATs and check the CRC32 in a text viewer/editor before reporting. So many options not to make useless posts

mai · 13 March 2011, 20:23

@MethodGit:
Dont understand me wrong, i like your investigations, but as TCD wrote, you wasting your time

, if you post corrections, which are already done in last TOSEC release.
It is required, that you first update your TOSEC collection.

BippyM · 13 March 2011, 20:23

Methodgit that is the lamest excuse ever.

Man up you Wuss

MethodGit · 13 March 2011, 20:38

So how much of a hammering has your ratio taken grabbing the TOSEC set on UG, bippy?

BippyM · 13 March 2011, 20:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by MethodGit

So how much of a hammering has your ratio taken grabbing the TOSEC set on UG, bippy?

It hasn't. I don't us ug. I use pleasuredome if a need to and all my sets are torrentzipped. This means I will only Dl what I need and even so I can upload at 500kb/s so errr it isn't an issue.

And finally if you update using the dats and you won't post wrong information.

MethodGit · 13 March 2011, 20:45

I could DAT-update the set, sure, but wouldn't I still be without any new ADFs that may have been added to the set since then?

Anyhow, looking inside the latest Amiga TOSEC DAT, I can see many of the things I mentioned have been acknowledged in the new filenames, with the exception of one thing: the revision numbers. Surely that's still worth taking into account?

TCD · 13 March 2011, 20:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by MethodGit

I could DAT-update the set, sure, but wouldn't I still be without any new ADFs that may have been added to the set since then?

No, fairies will sprinkle some dust on your HDD and the files will be created

BippyM · 13 March 2011, 21:01

Does it matter if you don't have the missing files. If they are missing you won't be renaming them again which is th3 whole point isn't it.

mai · 16 March 2011, 18:11

Can anyone tell me, what "BAM-copy" means, for example in set:
A-10 Tank Killer v1.5 (1991)(Dynamix)(Disk 3 of 3)[m BAM-copy]
??

PandMonium · 16 March 2011, 18:34

good question! I have the same doubts, i thought it could be a scene group but i excluded that option:

Quote:

"BAM-copy" used in:
Tactical Manager (1994)(Black Legend)(Disk 1 of 2)[cr ATX][m BAM-copy]
A-10 Tank Killer v1.5 (1991)(Dynamix)(Disk 2 of 3)[m BAM-copy]
A-10 Tank Killer v1.5 (1991)(Dynamix)(Disk 2 of 3)[m BAM-copy][a]
A-10 Tank Killer v1.5 (1991)(Dynamix)(Disk 3 of 3)[m BAM-copy].
Its not a group or scener. Its a [m] descriptor.

I have this note, don't know who checked to see if it was a scene group. Hope someone can solve this so i can save the information

mai · 16 March 2011, 18:50

I suppose its any type of copy method.

PandMonium · 16 March 2011, 19:37

Maybe it is "BAMCOPY" / "BAMCOPY+". One of 4 different copy methods of a tool named XCopy, at least according to this: http://amiga-manuals.xiik.net/applic...Manual-ENG.pdf

mai · 16 March 2011, 19:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by PandMonium

Maybe it is "BAMCOPY" / "BAMCOPY+". One of 4 different copy methods of a tool named XCopy, at least according to this: http://amiga-manuals.xiik.net/applic...Manual-ENG.pdf

Yes, (but i have no clue, how to investigate it)for me is the question, if there is any reason to call it "modified".
A-10 Tank Killer v1.5 (1991)(Dynamix)(Disk 3 of 3)[m BAM-copy]
for example is
original disk 3 of "SR" release.

Crashdisk · 16 March 2011, 20:02

may be [a BAM-copy] is better. The problem is that outside the areas of data used by original disk, the data are random!
Faster but not a really good copy...

StingRay · 16 March 2011, 20:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by mai

Can anyone tell me, what "BAM-copy" means, for example in set:
A-10 Tank Killer v1.5 (1991)(Dynamix)(Disk 3 of 3)[m BAM-copy]
??

BAM = B.lock A.llocation M.ap, BAM-Copy simply copies only allocated blocks and skips the rest which means less time is needed to copy a disk.

13 March 2011, 20:23	#287
mai Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Federativnaya Respublika Germaniya Posts: 4,994	@MethodGit: Dont understand me wrong, i like your investigations, but as TCD wrote, you wasting your time, if you post corrections, which are already done in last TOSEC release. It is required, that you first update your TOSEC collection.

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13 March 2011, 05:47	#283
MethodGit Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: The Streets Age: 40 Posts: 2,731	Some extended information regarding the Embryo ADFs (the "Disk 1"s anyway)... There are two known revisions of the game, 196 and 197. The following ADFs below seem to vary with these two. They are also cracked differently from one another. Embryo (1994)(Black Legend)(M3)(Disk 1 of 5)[cr PDX].adf c4305162 Revision 197, cracktro, all patch code in executable, but gurus upon pressing Return on the manual protection screen due to a bad BRA setting in said code. Embryo (1994)(Black Legend)(M3)(Disk 1 of 5)[cr PDX][a].adf 87e9526e Revision 196, no cracktro, patch code divided between executable and seperate patch file, both protection and checksum cracked so game starts okay. Embryo (1994)(Black Legend)(M3)(Disk 1 of 5)[cr PDX][a2].adf 029fa494 Revision 196, no cracktro, patch file, exe matches that of [a]. Embryo (1994)(Black Legend)(M3)(Disk 1 of 5)[cr PDX][a3].adf e9ec57ff Revision 197, cracktro, exe matches that of the first one (including the BRA cockup, so this also gurus). Embryo (1994)(Black Legend)(M3)(Disk 1 of 5)[cr PDX][a4].adf bf9975c5 This is actually another copy of the ATX trained disk, so should at least have "[t +2 ATX]" in the name. Aside from that: Revision 196, cracktro, patch file, exe matches that of [a]. Only problem with loading both a cracktro and a trainer is that they both eat up enough memory on a 512k/512k/AR3 setup for the game to complain of not finding enough spare memory (after the company logos) and will quit out upon pressing LMB. Embryo (1994)(Black Legend)(M3)(Disk 1 of 5)[cr PDX][t +2 ATX].adf Revision 196, no cracktro but the ATX trainer loads instead, patch file, exe matches that of [a]. Looking at the contents of this disk suggests that this uses files from Prodigy's crack fix for the Paradox release (presumably they must have noticed the typo in the code also =P), which must explain the "doit" file I've come across previously. So while they fudged up the German crack they also managed to correct PDX's own little gaffe! Another interesting note: with all the r196 disks, you have to fill the code space in full on the protection screen before the Return/Enter key will do anything, whereas with the r197 disks you can press Return/Enter at any time (after the scrolling has finished) to trigger the rest of the code.

13 March 2011, 20:03	#285
MethodGit Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: The Streets Age: 40 Posts: 2,731	I can only get by what's currently available at eab.whdownload.com. Having already spent an epic age downloading the last major collection, I'm not really in a rush to do the same for another update so soon. Perhaps if someone were to mirror the latest TOSEC collection file-by-file (if they had the resources of course), I wouldn't be so desperately out-of-date with my findings. =P

13 March 2011, 20:23	#288
BippyM Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 48 Posts: 9,355	Methodgit that is the lamest excuse ever. Man up you Wuss

13 March 2011, 20:38	#289
MethodGit Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: The Streets Age: 40 Posts: 2,731	So how much of a hammering has your ratio taken grabbing the TOSEC set on UG, bippy?

13 March 2011, 20:45	#291
MethodGit Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: The Streets Age: 40 Posts: 2,731	I could DAT-update the set, sure, but wouldn't I still be without any new ADFs that may have been added to the set since then? Anyhow, looking inside the latest Amiga TOSEC DAT, I can see many of the things I mentioned have been acknowledged in the new filenames, with the exception of one thing: the revision numbers. Surely that's still worth taking into account?

13 March 2011, 21:01	#293
BippyM Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 48 Posts: 9,355	Does it matter if you don't have the missing files. If they are missing you won't be renaming them again which is th3 whole point isn't it.

16 March 2011, 18:11	#294
mai Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Federativnaya Respublika Germaniya Posts: 4,994	Can anyone tell me, what "BAM-copy" means, for example in set: A-10 Tank Killer v1.5 (1991)(Dynamix)(Disk 3 of 3)[m BAM-copy] ??

16 March 2011, 18:50	#296
mai Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Federativnaya Respublika Germaniya Posts: 4,994	I suppose its any type of copy method.

16 March 2011, 19:37	#297
PandMonium Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Portugal Posts: 408	Maybe it is "BAMCOPY" / "BAMCOPY+". One of 4 different copy methods of a tool named XCopy, at least according to this: http://amiga-manuals.xiik.net/applic...Manual-ENG.pdf

16 March 2011, 20:02	#299
Crashdisk Moderator Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: France Age: 46 Posts: 1,990	may be [a BAM-copy] is better. The problem is that outside the areas of data used by original disk, the data are random! Faster but not a really good copy...

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