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Old 03 November 2018, 05:22   #201
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it was a freaking joke, perhaps in bad taste, but good christ
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Old 03 November 2018, 07:14   #202
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I won't abide facism in any form anywhere, and I certainly won't abide having to read or think about it in a place like EAB.
Then I suggest you look into the political activities of the people who run Hyperion. Just saying.
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Old 03 November 2018, 07:46   #203
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Seriously, don't bring MAGA anything into this forum.
The very abbreviation, meant as a joke or otherwise, is divisive. I won't abide facism in any form anywhere, and I certainly won't abide having to read or think about it in a place like EAB.

Congratulations, you were just added to my ignore list. A first on this forum.
Dude, you really need to calm down.
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Old 03 November 2018, 07:58   #204
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Seriously, don't bring MAGA anything into this forum.
The very abbreviation, meant as a joke or otherwise, is divisive. I won't abide facism in any form anywhere, and I certainly won't abide having to read or think about it in a place like EAB.
Do us all a favour and leave then...
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Old 03 November 2018, 08:24   #205
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Do us all a favour and leave then...
Maybe you can show the door?
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Old 03 November 2018, 10:08   #206
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Seriously, don't bring MAGA anything into this forum.
The very abbreviation, meant as a joke or otherwise, is divisive. I won't abide facism in any form anywhere, and I certainly won't abide having to read or think about it in a place like EAB.

Congratulations, you were just added to my ignore list. A first on this forum.
That was way too bold for having 45 or so comments.
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Old 03 November 2018, 13:00   #207
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Back on-topic, please.
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Old 03 November 2018, 13:15   #208
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Problem Solved

Instead of arguing over who own the rights, they should form Joint Venture. This would benefit the Amiga Community as a whole.
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Old 03 November 2018, 14:24   #209
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Especially, that their products do not really compete (with the exception of Hyperion 40.72 version of OS 3.1):

- Cloanto AmigaForever is a package you install on a Windows machine and can run AmigaOS, it provides all the ROMs and OS versions Cloanto is able to provide, very little is spent on developing the OS itself; only small but important patches are applied; just a few clicks and you have Amiga on your Windows PC

- Hyperion team wants to develop OS 3 further, to fix bugs, annoyances, and to add new features, OS 3.1.4 is geared towards advanced Amiga user, who might want to combine it with OS 3.9, who might want to use symlinks and new shell features in the scripts they write, etc.

And many Amiga users will want to have BOTH packages (unless they prefer to use pirated software, of course). So - why to fight?
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Old 03 November 2018, 17:33   #210
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Well that's just great. I was just about to order a 16G CF card to try out 3.1.4. Gutted. Anyone got a download link ;-)
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Old 03 November 2018, 22:50   #211
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Is 3.1.4 available for purchase via digital dl anywhere?
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Old 04 November 2018, 09:43   #212
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I suspect one of two things has happened..

1. Either they've been hit with a copyright claim as some people suggest (not sure i buy this)
2. The Amiga dealers have said they'd only carry the chips/disks in stock if Hyperion stopped the digital download option (or some variation of this theme).

I think 2 is more likely. But there may be a third option i'm missing.

You can definitely buy other things on their site.
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Old 04 November 2018, 15:05   #213
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@plasmab: the legal documents are linked in this thread for everybody to read.
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Old 04 November 2018, 18:53   #214
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@plasmab: the legal documents are linked in this thread for everybody to read.
Yeah im not following links. Too much effort. can someone summarise without mad bias?
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Old 04 November 2018, 19:04   #215
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Hyperion promised they would do some things, and that they would not do other things. They've been caught doing the opposite of those things, so they've palmed some of their things off on other people in order to avoid having to explain to some very scary people what they have and have not been doing.

Time will tell whether that strategy is successful or not.
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Old 04 November 2018, 19:56   #216
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Hehehe, love your summary!
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Old 05 November 2018, 08:09   #217
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Is 3.1.4 available for purchase via digital dl anywhere?

Wondering similar. Hopefully we haven't missed the opportunity.
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Old 05 November 2018, 09:19   #218
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Yeah im not following links. Too much effort. can someone summarise without mad bias?
Hyperion, Cloanto and Amiga Inc. are in court about AmigaOS 3.1.4 among others. 3.1.4 is explicitly mentioned as infringing copyrights and the infamous "Settlement Agreement" in the linked documents. So there is little room for your doubt. Of course, you would have to make the effort and read it yourself...
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Hyperion, Cloanto and Amiga Inc. are in court about AmigaOS 3.1.4 among others. 3.1.4 is explicitly mentioned as infringing copyrights and the infamous "Settlement Agreement" in the linked documents. So there is little room for your doubt. Of course, you would have to make the effort and read it yourself...

Thanks for the summary. I really don’t care enough to read these. You need to pay me to read legalese.

I just found it curious that some of the vendors are still offering it in physical media. Perhaps they wouldn’t actually fulfill the order.

What I would say is that it might be useful if someone found a way of presenting these documents in a timeline.
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Old 05 November 2018, 10:38   #220
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They could all save (and make) a lot of money if they bury the hatchet somewhere other than in eachother's backs.
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