TOSEC Amiga Correction Thread - Page 16

mai · 13 October 2012, 11:29

Quote:

File selected : R.B.I. Two Baseball (1991)(Tengen - Domark).adf
CRC32 : $3B6B2085
WARNING: Possible bad doscopy on NoDOS disk! Type DiskCopy WB2.1+

Nice one

, now i see its rather a dos-copied Disk of the unprotected budget release by "Hit Squad".

Crashdisk · 13 October 2012, 11:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by mai

Nice one

, now i see its rather a dos-copied Disk of the unprotected budget release by "Hit Squad".

this is to kill two birds with one stone

PandMonium · 13 October 2012, 13:20

I see you guys have been identifying problems with a lot of sets in ADF Games, with most being some kind of bad dump, right?
Just to have some kind of notion, my question is if there are original (without errors) versions of all these games or not and to what extend are these bad dumps affected - are they unplayable, crash, some possible gfx errors, an so on.

mai · 13 October 2012, 13:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by PandMonium

I see you guys have been identifying problems with a lot of sets in ADF Games, with most being some kind of bad dump, right?
Just to have some kind of notion, my question is if there are original (without errors) versions of all these games or not and to what extend are these bad dumps affected - are they unplayable, crash, some possible gfx errors, an so on.

I have posted here(with screenshots) some examples, where the result of this doscopy is visible, when playing the game.
Maybe in some cases this type of corruption is not noticeable, when playing the whole game, i have not the time to play every single game.

PandMonium · 13 October 2012, 13:55

Thanks. Just saw the gfx in "Blast <something>", these identified problems can in some cases (or most since nobody is playing/testing them all to find out) introduce visible/audible errors that really affect the software.

May i suppose that for some of these cases we don't have original, 100% preserved sets?

It's great to see such progresses and get the infinite alternates correctly renamed

Crashdisk · 13 October 2012, 14:38

mai, I look forward to see your correction work ;-)

mai · 13 October 2012, 14:55

Some progress is done.
Another problem:
I do not agree to replace [b checksum error] with [errdms].
If the disk is a real DOS DISK, i prefer to use [b checksum error], if any file is affected, but i have said it before, if i remember right.

Crashdisk · 13 October 2012, 15:21

Personally I prefer [b corrupt file]. On FFS disk, there is no "checksum error" (This is just a visible consequence on OFS)!

prowler · 13 October 2012, 15:30

Apologies for butting in here, but Crashdisk's preference is more elegant IMHO for the reason he has given.

mai · 13 October 2012, 15:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crashdisk

Personally I prefer [b corrupt file]. On FFS disk, there is no "checksum error" (This is just a visible consequence on OFS)!

Can you please post an example?

Crashdisk · 13 October 2012, 15:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by mai

Can you please post an example?

on The Zone! Launch DiskSalv for a little Guru ^^

mai · 13 October 2012, 18:49

Quote:

File selected : Stormlord (1989)(Spotlight)(US).adf
CRC32 : $DB9432F4
WARNING: Possible bad doscopy on NoDOS disk! Type DiskCopy WB1.x

File selected : Stormlord (1989)(Spotlight)(US)[cr SR - Valhalla].adf
CRC32 : $0BD75DFB
WARNING: Possible bad doscopy on NoDOS disk! Type DiskCopy WB1.x

File selected : Stormlord (1989)(Spotlight)(US)[cr SR - Valhalla][h Spaikers].adf
CRC32 : $70506786
WARNING: Possible bad doscopy on NoDOS disk! Type DiskCopy WB1.x

File selected : Stormlord (1989)(Spotlight)(US)[cr SR - Valhalla][t +4 TMF].adf
CRC32 : $5B2AD1D6
WARNING: Possible bad doscopy on NoDOS disk! Type DiskCopy WB1.x

It seems all US-versions have this issue.
Stormlord (1989)(Spotlight)(US)[cr SR - Valhalla].adf
is also not original "SR" release, this set has also another issue, which causes the game to crash.
I have also added now original "SR" release, it is also dos-copied, but probably no noticeable effect, when playing the game.

Crashdisk · 14 October 2012, 01:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by mai

It seems all US-versions have this issue.
Stormlord (1989)(Spotlight)(US)[cr SR - Valhalla].adf
is also not original "SR" release, this set has also another issue, which causes the game to crash.
I have also added now original "SR" release, it is also dos-copied, but probably no noticeable effect, when playing the game.

Could you put this version in the zone?

mai · 14 October 2012, 09:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crashdisk

Could you put this version in the zone?

Its in the zone now, i have grabbed from original scene archive "The Boilerroom".

Crashdisk · 14 October 2012, 10:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by mai

Its in the zone now, i have grabbed from original scene archive "The Boilerroom".

Ok thanks. the $0BD75DFB version is a very bad dump ...
doscopy fixed on The Zone!

mai · 14 October 2012, 10:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crashdisk

Ok thanks. the $0BD75DFB version is a very bad dump ...
doscopy fixed on The Zone!

This time fixed for yourself. i suppose?
I suppose you have taken correct values from the European version?

Crashdisk · 14 October 2012, 10:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by mai

This time fixed for yourself. i suppose?
I suppose you have taken correct values from the European version?

Yes indeed, this block is identical between NTSC and PAL version.

mai · 14 October 2012, 11:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crashdisk

Yes indeed, this block is identical between NTSC and PAL version.

So, call it [f]ix?

Crashdisk · 14 October 2012, 11:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by mai

So, call it [f]ix?

Given the fact that the two derived versions have from the same defect, we can assume that there is no correct version of [cr SR - Valhalla] (and maybe even the original?), so [f] is appropriate.

mai · 14 October 2012, 11:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crashdisk

Given the fact that the two derived versions have from the same defect, we can assume that there is no correct version of [cr SR - Valhalla] (and maybe even the original?), so [f] is appropriate.

Have also checked the WHDLOAD installed version of Stormlord NTSC, they used also TOSEC version
Stormlord (1989)(Spotlight)(US)[b doscopy]

its the same Diskimage.
Either the NTSC version was unprotected or someone has removed "SR - Valhalla" text from the image to claim it as Original or unmodified.

mai · 14 October 2012, 17:05

Stormlord (1989)(Spotlight)(US)[cr SR - Valhalla][f]
or
Stormlord (1989)(Spotlight)(US)[cr SR - Valhalla][f doscopy]
or any more suitable descriptor?

Quote:

File selected : Rat Trap (1991)(Audiogenic)(Disk 1 of 2).adf
CRC32 : $7E4684FB
WARNING: Possible bad doscopy on NoDOS disk! Type DiskCopy WB1.x

File selected : Rat Trap (1991)(Audiogenic)(Disk 1 of 2)[a2].adf
CRC32 : $E24F5D66
WARNING: Possible bad doscopy on NoDOS disk! Type DiskCopy WB1.x

File selected : Rat Trap (1991)(Audiogenic)(Disk 1 of 2)[a].adf
CRC32 : $3F2C5181
WARNING: Possible bad doscopy on NoDOS disk! Type DiskCopy WB1.x (duplicated several times)

File selected : Rat Trap (1991)(Audiogenic)(Disk 1 of 2)[cr NMS][f AGA CRX][t +2 CRX].adf
CRC32 : $9EFCA3F2
WARNING: Possible bad doscopy on NoDOS disk! Type DiskCopy WB1.x

File selected : Rat Trap (1991)(Audiogenic)(Disk 1 of 2)[cr NMS][t +5 ATX].adf
CRC32 : $655467CB
WARNING: Possible bad doscopy on NoDOS disk! Type DiskCopy WB1.x

No Data affected, WHDLoad version contains also similar image.
Probably never officially released this gme.

emufan · 14 October 2012, 22:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crashdisk

FrameMaster (1993)(BSC)(Disk 2 of 2)
crc 7ef1761f
=> FrameMachine v2.0 (1993)(Electronic-Design)(AGA)(Disk 2 of 2)
Note: Disk 1 is corrupt (bad release)

disk #1 is still missing? i found one in those BBS archives. look into the zone.

Crashdisk · 15 October 2012, 10:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by mai

Stormlord (1989)(Spotlight)(US)[cr SR - Valhalla][f]
or
Stormlord (1989)(Spotlight)(US)[cr SR - Valhalla][f doscopy]
or any more suitable descriptor?

correction only concerns damages caused by doscopy so it would be logical to indicate.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mai

No Data affected, WHDLoad version contains also similar image.
Probably never officially released this gme.

Indeed, the damage should not have an impact.

Quote:

Originally Posted by emufan

disk #1 is still missing? i found one in those BBS archives. look into the zone.

Added, thank you

Quote:

Originally Posted by absence

Budbrain Megademo 1 (1990)(Budbrain Productions)[a] (crc32 e1620155) has wrong name, should be Budbrain Megademo 1 (1990)(Budbrain Productions)[Disk 1 of 2][a]

Budbrain Megademo 1 (1990)(Budbrain Productions) (crc32 7930c9ed) has wrong name, should be Budbrain Megademo 1 (1990)(Budbrain Productions)[Disk 1 of 2]

Psychotic Demo (1991)(Budbrain Productions)(Disk 2 of 2)[a] (crc32 714d5fde) has wrong name, should be Budbrain Megademo 1 (1990)(Budbrain Productions)[Disk 2 of 2]

...fixed, Crashdisk
Major cleanup in Budbrain productions

mai · 19 October 2012, 20:28

Quote:

File selected : Naughty Ones (1994)(Interactivision)[cr Kingdom][t +6 HLM].adf
CRC32 : $B11225F5
WARNING: Possible bad doscopy on NoDOS disk! Type DiskCopy WB2.1+

This one crashes on Scene 3.

mai · 20 October 2012, 12:59

Another example, that a doscopy on NDOS disk destroys the game:

Quote:

File selected : Neighbours (1991)(Impulze)[cr SR][t +4 LGD].adf
CRC32 : $0FCB0F90
WARNING: Possible bad doscopy on NoDOS disk! Type DiskCopy WB2.1+

This time heavy graphic corruptions.

PandMonium · 20 October 2012, 16:21

Is it always related with being a doscopy on NDOS? :P

mai · 20 October 2012, 18:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by PandMonium

Is it always related with being a doscopy on NDOS? :P

100% sure.
In the examples i have posted, the reason for the corruption is always a dos-copied NDOS disk.
I have compared against the good version(playing both).

Crashdisk · 20 October 2012, 19:03

Ancient Battles (1990)(CCS)[h CLS - RZR][a]
crc ff48fe04

...fixed, mai

Ancient Battles (1990)(CCS)[h CLS - RZR][a2]
crc 252a2f17

...fixed, mai

Ancient Battles (1990)(CCS)[h CLS - RZR][a3]
crc 38173314

...fixed, mai

Ancient Battles (1990)(CCS)[h CLS - RZR][a4]
crc fc501ffb

...fixed, mai

=> [v Virus Amor v1.0]

It's a "unknown" bootblock virus. It seems that the virus was introduced by the release crc ff48fe04 and others are only virus mutations. I have not found other disks infected by this virus.
Note: Requires slow RAM (it did not help to be popular ^^ ) and damages rootblock (eg change disk name "Ana_Laura") :-(

mai · 20 October 2012, 19:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crashdisk

It's a "unknown" bootblock virus. It seems that the virus was introduced by the release crc ff48fe04 and others are only virus mutations. I have not found other disks infected by this virus.
Note: Requires slow RAM (it did not help to be popular ^^ ) and damages rootblock (eg change disk name "Ana_Laura") :-(

Good job again.

BTW:I am now able to recognize dos-copied NDOS disks manually.
Do you have created tool to recognize this type of error
automatical?

Crashdisk · 21 October 2012, 00:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by mai

Good job again.

BTW:I am now able to recognize dos-copied NDOS disks manually.
Do you have created tool to recognize this type of error
automatical?

I use my Tool : DMS Workshop (eternal WiP

) for which I work on many peripheral matter (eg database bootblock, Bypass compression bug of DMS...) So I do not have much time for TOSEC dats but it helps

mai · 21 October 2012, 15:59

Quote:

File selected : Prince of Persia v1.0 (1991)(Domark)(GB)[cr Angels][t +2 Angels][a3].adf
CRC32 : $A1C4EB00
WARNING: Possible bad doscopy on NoDOS disk! Type DiskCopy WB1.x

Graphic corruption in game-intro, but it works.

Quote:

File selected : Leander (1991)(Psygnosis)(Disk 1 of 3)[cr SR][t +15 DC].adf
CRC32 : $A35B1102
WARNING: Possible bad doscopy on NoDOS disk! Type DiskCopy WB2.1+ (duplicated several times)

Graphic corruption in game-intro, but it works.

mai · 24 October 2012, 17:51

Quote:

Fallen Angel (1989)(Screen 7)[cr VF]
43A0166F

@Crashdisk:Is this also a Doscopy?

Crashdisk · 24 October 2012, 17:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by mai

@Crashdisk:Is this also a Doscopy?

File selected : Fallen Angel (1989)(Screen 7)[cr VF].adf
File size : 901.120 bytes
CRC32 : $43A0166F

WARNING: Possible bad doscopy on NoDOS disk! Type DiskCopy WB1.0

mai · 24 October 2012, 18:06

OK, thanks for the fast reply.

Crashdisk · 24 October 2012, 18:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by mai

OK, thanks for the fast reply.

This would not have happened if I had not forgotten this defect

I guess there will be other but I waiting the next release of TOSEC to make a second pass (including viruses)

Crashdisk · 01 November 2012, 10:11

@mai
Please move :
Demos - Various [ADF] to Games - [ADF]

Code:

File selected         : Unreal (19xx)(Blaze)[b].adf
File size             : 901.120 bytes
CRC32                 : $AD8E33D7
=> Unreal  (demo-rolling) (1990)(Ubi Soft).adf

mai · 01 November 2012, 20:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crashdisk

@mai
Please move :
Demos - Various [ADF] to Games - [ADF]

Code:

File selected         : Unreal (19xx)(Blaze)[b].adf
File size             : 901.120 bytes
CRC32                 : $AD8E33D7
=> Unreal  (demo-rolling) (1990)(Ubi Soft).adf

...done.

Retroplay · 01 November 2012, 20:31

Mai, in case you haven't seen the "For 9 years stuck in Leander" thread.

Disk 2 of the Melnok crack is a bad image.
http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=837798&postcount=65

and dlfsilvers reply
http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=837828&postcount=66

mai · 01 November 2012, 20:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retroplay

Mai, in case you haven't seen the "For 9 years stuck in Leander" thread.

Disk 2 of the Melnok crack is a bad image.
http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=837798&postcount=65

and dlfsilvers reply
http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=837828&postcount=66

...done.

mai · 02 November 2012, 18:20

@Crashdisk: Are you busy with Demos dats?
If so, please grab "Party Remix 1990" from my private FTP.
Someone has uploaded this images and told me, that this version is error-free, unlike the versions currently in TOSEC:

Quote:

TOSEC Version (wie alle im Netz) hat Fehler:
Disk 1: "911 is a Joke" Samples teilweise fehlerhaft z.B. "Don't believe the hype"
Disk 2: "Rich in Paradise" lädt nicht

Party Remix 1990.zip enthält fehlerfreie Images

13 October 2012, 13:20	#603
PandMonium Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Portugal Posts: 396	I see you guys have been identifying problems with a lot of sets in ADF Games, with most being some kind of bad dump, right? Just to have some kind of notion, my question is if there are original (without errors) versions of all these games or not and to what extend are these bad dumps affected - are they unplayable, crash, some possible gfx errors, an so on. __________________ www.tosecdev.org

13 October 2012, 13:55	#605
PandMonium Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Portugal Posts: 396	Thanks. Just saw the gfx in "Blast <something>", these identified problems can in some cases (or most since nobody is playing/testing them all to find out) introduce visible/audible errors that really affect the software. May i suppose that for some of these cases we don't have original, 100% preserved sets? It's great to see such progresses and get the infinite alternates correctly renamed __________________ www.tosecdev.org

13 October 2012, 14:55	#607
mai ModCollector TOSEC member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Stendal/Germany Age: 44 Posts: 3,616	Some progress is done. Another problem: I do not agree to replace [b checksum error] with [errdms]. If the disk is a real DOS DISK, i prefer to use [b checksum error], if any file is affected, but i have said it before, if i remember right. __________________ A1200, Blizzard 68030/50, 32MB Fast, Kick 3.1, 2GB IDE>CF-Card, 4GB PCMCIA CF-Card

20 October 2012, 16:21	#626
PandMonium Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Portugal Posts: 396	Is it always related with being a doscopy on NDOS? :P __________________ www.tosecdev.org

20 October 2012, 19:03	#628
Crashdisk Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: France Age: 35 Posts: 584	Ancient Battles (1990)(CCS)[h CLS - RZR][a] crc ff48fe04 ...fixed, mai Ancient Battles (1990)(CCS)[h CLS - RZR][a2] crc 252a2f17 ...fixed, mai Ancient Battles (1990)(CCS)[h CLS - RZR][a3] crc 38173314 ...fixed, mai Ancient Battles (1990)(CCS)[h CLS - RZR][a4] crc fc501ffb ...fixed, mai => [v Virus Amor v1.0] It's a "unknown" bootblock virus. It seems that the virus was introduced by the release crc ff48fe04 and others are only virus mutations. I have not found other disks infected by this virus. Note: Requires slow RAM (it did not help to be popular ^^ ) and damages rootblock (eg change disk name "Ana_Laura") :-( Last edited by mai; 20 October 2012 at 19:33.

13 October 2012, 14:38	#606
Crashdisk Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: France Age: 35 Posts: 584	mai, I look forward to see your correction work ;-)

13 October 2012, 15:21	#608
Crashdisk Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: France Age: 35 Posts: 584	Personally I prefer [b corrupt file]. On FFS disk, there is no "checksum error" (This is just a visible consequence on OFS)!

13 October 2012, 15:30	#609
prowler Global Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sidcup, England Posts: 8,694	Apologies for butting in here, but Crashdisk's preference is more elegant IMHO for the reason he has given.

24 October 2012, 18:06	#634
mai ModCollector TOSEC member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Stendal/Germany Age: 44 Posts: 3,616	OK, thanks for the fast reply. __________________ A1200, Blizzard 68030/50, 32MB Fast, Kick 3.1, 2GB IDE>CF-Card, 4GB PCMCIA CF-Card

01 November 2012, 10:11	#636
Crashdisk Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: France Age: 35 Posts: 584	@mai Please move : Demos - Various [ADF] to Games - [ADF] Code: File selected : Unreal (19xx)(Blaze)[b].adf File size : 901.120 bytes CRC32 : $AD8E33D7 => Unreal (demo-rolling) (1990)(Ubi Soft).adf

01 November 2012, 20:31	#638
Retroplay Lemon Curry ? Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Frederikshavn, Denmark Age: 38 Posts: 1,937	Mai, in case you haven't seen the "For 9 years stuck in Leander" thread. Disk 2 of the Melnok crack is a bad image. http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=837798&postcount=65 and dlfsilvers reply http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=837828&postcount=66 __________________ RIP mom (1953-2008)

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