High-resolution games

Minuous · 10 October 2012, 09:54

I was just idly wondering if there is a list anywhere of high-resolution (640*200 or more) games? I can think of Citadel of Vras, Balance of Power, and Infocom and Magnetic Scrolls adventures, but that is about it.

I was surprised and annoyed at the time, and now, that 99% of games used 320*256 or less when the miggy is capable of considerably higher resolutions.

The reasons against are: (a) The details would be difficult to see on a TV, (b) the game would use more memory, (c) it would run more slowly, and (d) be limited to 16 colours (in the case of OCS/ECS). But there are a lot of games where it would still have been worthwhile, eg. most strategy, adventure, and RPG games. Probably (e) lazy ports from other machines was also a large factor, but use of low-res is common in Amiga-only games too.

s2325 · 10 October 2012, 10:08

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CodyJarrett · 10 October 2012, 10:27

Games like Sim Life and Sim Earth have high resolution versions. Also, Sim City 2000.

TheCyberDruid · 10 October 2012, 10:31

'Nam 1965-1975

Predseda · 10 October 2012, 10:34

Harpoon series. Also a lot of text-based games (many from Rainbird for example). I personally don't like 640x256 in games. Suitable for workbench & programs, but i prefer 320x256 for games.

deicidal · 10 October 2012, 10:37

A Train (I Think) http://hol.abime.net/3339

clauddio · 10 October 2012, 12:19

there are tons of games that runs in high res...generally 640x512
in most cases you can't notice it
some examples

simon the sorcerer
dark seed
penthouse hot numbers
cover girls strip poker
six sense investigations

TheCyberDruid · 10 October 2012, 12:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by clauddio

simon the sorcerer
six sense investigations

I don't really get you mean. That the game sets up a screen with a doubled resolution and then doubles every pixel? Both examples are 320x256...

Edit: Both examples are even 320x200.

alkis21 · 10 October 2012, 12:42

Wonderland: Dream The Dream...

High resolution is one of the options.

clauddio · 10 October 2012, 13:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheCyberDruid

I don't really get you mean. That the game sets up a screen with a doubled resolution and then doubles every pixel? Both examples are 320x256...

Edit: Both examples are even 320x200.

those games uses interlaced screens
dont know very well which one it can be 320x480 or 320x512 or 640x512
I know it because I used on my A1200 for a long time a 29' TV very sensitive to interlaced screens...those games flickers a lot

killergorilla · 10 October 2012, 13:42

The title screen for uridium 2 is hires.

TheCyberDruid · 10 October 2012, 13:46

I know that Darkseed uses interlace, but I can't see anything special about Simon. Just ran it within WinUAE with the LoRes display setting, non-doubled in a 320x256 window and here's the result:

The game is LoRes.

Mrs Beanbag · 10 October 2012, 13:50

Sim City 2000

Akira · 10 October 2012, 14:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheCyberDruid

I know that Darkseed uses interlace, but I can't see anything special about Simon. .

Simon the Sorcerer isn't high res.

TheCyberDruid · 10 October 2012, 14:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Akira

Simon the Sorcerer isn't high res.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheCyberDruid

The game is LoRes.

I came to the same conclusion

killergorilla · 10 October 2012, 14:11

Simon the Sorcerer isn't interlaced.

Retroplay · 10 October 2012, 14:17

Pinball Illusions has a hires mode.

killergorilla · 10 October 2012, 14:30

It does, as does Slam Tilt.

PopoCop · 10 October 2012, 16:55

"Pinball Brain Damage" uses 640x256 and 1280x512 for multiball.

sir_xeno · 10 October 2012, 17:07

IIRC Burnout and Evil's Doom run at 640x512.

PopoCop · 11 October 2012, 12:37

"Napalm",
"Exodus: The Last War",
"Nemac IV",
"Gloom Deluxe",
"Pinball Prelude",
"Virtual Ball Fighters",
"Foundation",
"Virtual GP".

clauddio · 11 October 2012, 13:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheCyberDruid

I know that Darkseed uses interlace, but I can't see anything special about Simon. Just ran it within WinUAE with the LoRes display setting, non-doubled in a 320x256 window and here's the result:

The game is LoRes.

simon is a rare game...I know it now
works in low res if you run it from whdload or if you run it directly from floppy
but if you install it on hardisk on the normal way (not whdload) and if you run the game from a workbench in laced mode example 640x512 ....the game will run in a laced screen

seems the command runit opens the game in a WB background or something like that
also it seems the game can run in DBL pal or VGA mode....you do not need a 15hz monitor to run the game...will confirm later...tested only in winuae...will make more tests on my A1200 later

TheCyberDruid · 11 October 2012, 13:41

I still don't think that Minuous was thinking about the screenmode, but rather the used resolution of the game.

Samurai_Crow · 11 October 2012, 19:02

When Total Chaos made the jump to AGA, it also made the jump to high-res laced as well.

Predseda · 11 October 2012, 19:27

Skidmarks

rsn8887 · 12 October 2012, 03:28

Super Stardust AGA uses some weird hi-res overlay for the shield and energy counters... at least

Mrs Beanbag · 12 October 2012, 11:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by rsn8887

Super Stardust AGA uses some weird hi-res overlay for the shield and energy counters... at least

AGA can put hi-res and super-hi-res sprites on top of low-res screens. It can also hardware scroll a low-res screen by one super-hi-res pixel's worth. So Mr Beanbag features "quarter pixel scrolling" and "quarter pixel sprite placement" as well (the sprites aren't hi-res, but their screen co-ordinates are!).

Akira · 12 October 2012, 12:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheCyberDruid

I still don't think that Minuous was thinking about the screenmode, but rather the used resolution of the game.

True, even if Simon can open in a 640x512 laced screen, it's still a blown up 320x256 game.

Ms. Beanbag: Such a fantastic machine. So that's what sub-pixel scrolling is. I didn't know exactly what it was until now. Thanks for that clarification.
Any other game that uses these super high res/high res sprites over lowres backgrounds?

Retro-Nerd · 12 October 2012, 22:41

Simon the Sorcerer II
Biing AGA

clauddio · 12 October 2012, 22:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retro-Nerd

Simon the Sorcerer II
Biing AGA

do you know if there is a PC version of Biing in english language and where I can download it?

Retro-Nerd · 12 October 2012, 22:57

http://coreduo.me.uk/biing-sex-intri...scalpels-1995/

clauddio · 12 October 2012, 23:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retro-Nerd

http://coreduo.me.uk/biing-sex-intri...scalpels-1995/

thanks master

you know I was googling for Biing before and even I can't found anything related to this this game...seems the game was forgotten by all

rare_j · 12 October 2012, 23:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Predseda

Skidmarks

I think the original skidmarks is a low res game but all the follow ups (super skidmarks etc) were hi res.

desiv · 13 October 2012, 00:42

I'll have to try it again, but I'm pretty sure Fighter Duel is hi-res.
Then again, Flight Sims might not count.. ;-)

desiv

NovaCoder · 13 October 2012, 00:52

How about 1280x200 in AGA -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWYnd...ature=youtu.be

Akira · 13 October 2012, 01:31

What a weird resolution

frikilokooo · 13 October 2012, 13:19

Air Warrior

Harry · 14 October 2012, 05:22

Fourmaze, a Pacman clone available on aminet:game/actio/fourmaze.lha, uses a 640x263 ingame resolution.

10 October 2012, 09:54	#1
Minuous Coder/webmaster/gamer Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Canberra/Australia Posts: 1,147	High-resolution games I was just idly wondering if there is a list anywhere of high-resolution (640200 or more) games? I can think of Citadel of Vras, Balance of Power, and Infocom and Magnetic Scrolls adventures, but that is about it. I was surprised and annoyed at the time, and now, that 99% of games used 320256 or less when the miggy is capable of considerably higher resolutions. The reasons against are: (a) The details would be difficult to see on a TV, (b) the game would use more memory, (c) it would run more slowly, and (d) be limited to 16 colours (in the case of OCS/ECS). But there are a lot of games where it would still have been worthwhile, eg. most strategy, adventure, and RPG games. Probably (e) lazy ports from other machines was also a large factor, but use of low-res is common in Amiga-only games too. __________________ Programmer, Amigan Software

10 October 2012, 10:31	#4
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10 October 2012, 10:34	#5
Predseda Puttymoon inhabitant Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Prague, CZ Age: 35 Posts: 2,396	Harpoon series. Also a lot of text-based games (many from Rainbird for example). I personally don't like 640x256 in games. Suitable for workbench & programs, but i prefer 320x256 for games. __________________ Download Downfall AGA for free for your Amiga! Last edited by Predseda; 10 October 2012 at 10:40.

10 October 2012, 12:42	#9
alkis21 Zone Friend Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Athens, Greece Age: 38 Posts: 1,111	Wonderland: Dream The Dream... High resolution is one of the options. __________________ Do you like classic adventure games? Check out Diamonds in the Rough!

10 October 2012, 13:42	#11
killergorilla Lesser Talent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Age: 31 Posts: 7,888	The title screen for uridium 2 is hires. __________________ I'm totally gratified that people find Interceptor worthy of being downloaded and played after so many years especially in light of its rather rudimentary visual content by standards constantly increasing over time.

10 October 2012, 10:08	#2
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10 October 2012, 10:27	#3
CodyJarrett Global Moderator Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: UK Age: 35 Posts: 5,439	Games like Sim Life and Sim Earth have high resolution versions. Also, Sim City 2000.

10 October 2012, 10:37	#6
deicidal Registered Insane Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Ununited Kingdom Posts: 748	A Train (I Think) http://hol.abime.net/3339

10 October 2012, 12:19	#7
clauddio Banned Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Saturn Age: 41 Posts: 279	there are tons of games that runs in high res...generally 640x512 in most cases you can't notice it some examples simon the sorcerer dark seed penthouse hot numbers cover girls strip poker six sense investigations

10 October 2012, 13:46	#12
TheCyberDruid Moderator Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 35 Posts: 22,446	I know that Darkseed uses interlace, but I can't see anything special about Simon. Just ran it within WinUAE with the LoRes display setting, non-doubled in a 320x256 window and here's the result: The game is LoRes. __________________ "I am Polka and that's why I don't like accordions" - CrazyOne, April 2013

10 October 2012, 13:50	#13
Mrs Beanbag Glastonbridge Software Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Edinburgh/Scotland Posts: 344	Sim City 2000

10 October 2012, 14:11	#16
killergorilla Lesser Talent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Age: 31 Posts: 7,888	Simon the Sorcerer isn't interlaced. __________________ I'm totally gratified that people find Interceptor worthy of being downloaded and played after so many years especially in light of its rather rudimentary visual content by standards constantly increasing over time.

10 October 2012, 14:17	#17
Retroplay Lemon Curry ? Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Frederikshavn, Denmark Age: 38 Posts: 1,937	Pinball Illusions has a hires mode. __________________ RIP mom (1953-2008)

10 October 2012, 14:30	#18
killergorilla Lesser Talent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Age: 31 Posts: 7,888	It does, as does Slam Tilt. __________________ I'm totally gratified that people find Interceptor worthy of being downloaded and played after so many years especially in light of its rather rudimentary visual content by standards constantly increasing over time.

10 October 2012, 16:55	#19
PopoCop Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Poland Posts: 193	"Pinball Brain Damage" uses 640x256 and 1280x512 for multiball. __________________ Amiga 1200, Apollo 1240/40 Mhz, OS 3.1, AGA, E/Box Tower, 32 MB Fast RAM

10 October 2012, 17:07	#20
sir_xeno Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: amigaland Posts: 17	IIRC Burnout and Evil's Doom run at 640x512.

11 October 2012, 12:37	#21
PopoCop Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Poland Posts: 193	"Napalm", "Exodus: The Last War", "Nemac IV", "Gloom Deluxe", "Pinball Prelude", "Virtual Ball Fighters", "Foundation", "Virtual GP". __________________ Amiga 1200, Apollo 1240/40 Mhz, OS 3.1, AGA, E/Box Tower, 32 MB Fast RAM

11 October 2012, 13:41	#23
TheCyberDruid Moderator Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 35 Posts: 22,446	I still don't think that Minuous was thinking about the screenmode, but rather the used resolution of the game. __________________ "I am Polka and that's why I don't like accordions" - CrazyOne, April 2013

11 October 2012, 19:02	#24
Samurai_Crow Team Chaos Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Pierre, SD USA Age: 38 Posts: 235	When Total Chaos made the jump to AGA, it also made the jump to high-res laced as well. __________________ Member: Total Chaos team and AROS Development Team.

11 October 2012, 19:27	#25
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12 October 2012, 03:28	#26
rsn8887 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Germantown, Maryland / USA, born in Hannover / Germany Posts: 587	Super Stardust AGA uses some weird hi-res overlay for the shield and energy counters... at least

12 October 2012, 22:41	#29
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13 October 2012, 00:42	#34
desiv Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Salem, OR Posts: 849	I'll have to try it again, but I'm pretty sure Fighter Duel is hi-res. Then again, Flight Sims might not count.. ;-) desiv

13 October 2012, 00:52	#35
NovaCoder Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Melbourne/Australia Posts: 2,328	How about 1280x200 in AGA -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWYnd...ature=youtu.be

13 October 2012, 01:31	#36
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