Lollypop

macce2 · 16 May 2007, 00:48

-Lollypop- :-)

Isn't WHDfied, according to HOL, anyway .. (?)
Seems to be a rare game.

Codetapper · 16 May 2007, 08:30

DJ Mike and myself have been working on it, it kind of works but there are bizarre access faults on several levels and one of the files on the original we were supplied is corrupt.

Unless you own the original you can send us, there isn't much use asking for the game to be installed.

macce2 · 16 May 2007, 11:23

Sorry, I don't have the original.
Maybe someone here in EAB has ?

DJ Mike · 17 May 2007, 01:17

Lollypop is screwed up big time. There are freak access faults that occur at random points, on ANY version of the game - no easy explanation other than just bad coding. I spent ages trying to track the problem down without much success

Whitesnake · 18 May 2007, 15:42

One thing I noticed about Lollypops HD Install is the amount of ram it requires to run the game.

I think it was 1.96mb chip or somewhere in that region, which isn't that practical to free up for casual Amiga users. Especially when most would have had a base Amiga.

I bet there was probably a lot of complaints back in the day trying to get this game to run from the HD.

Joe Maroni · 08 June 2007, 22:51

ok Dj mike i have the original too..but it isn´t useful due to the fact of the access faults, am i right..???

DJ Mike · 03 July 2007, 01:49

This evening I've released the install for Lollypop, warts and all. Sadly we were never able to track down the source of the random bugs in the game (to do so would require taking apart the entire game piece by piece which just isn't worth it), so I'm afraid this isn't a 100% release, but it's as good as it gets - and at least I've installed it as real files for you

Decrunch them to speed up loading if you want.

M;.

Retro-Nerd · 03 July 2007, 01:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ Mike

This evening I've released the install for Lollypop, warts and all. Sadly we were never able to track down the source of the random bugs in the game (to do so would require taking apart the entire game piece by piece which just isn't worth it), so I'm afraid this isn't a 100% release, but it's as good as it gets - and at least I've installed it as real files for you

Decrunch them to speed up loading if you want.

M;.

Yeah, just seen this some minutes ago on the WHDLoad page. Excellent news, guys.

Could you upload a preinstalled version, Mike?

edit: No checksum check? The cracked version works fine.

DJ Mike · 03 July 2007, 17:11

The game had no protection to begin with, so I would hardly think of any warez version as a crack!

Retro-Nerd · 03 July 2007, 17:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ Mike

The game had no protection to begin with, so I would hardly think of any warez version as a crack!

Thanks for the Info, Mike. But what they tried to crack then?

Lollypop (1995)(Rainbow Arts)[cr PDY][t +28 SXI](Disk 1 of 5)

killergorilla · 03 July 2007, 17:29

Cracking unprotected games... interesting stuff!

I used the un-cracked first disk, then various other images I found. It seems to work fine but it is dull!

DJ Mike · 03 July 2007, 23:23

I think the [cr PDY] is simply because PDY released it (although maybe they tried to take credit for cracking it - pretty lame if they did!) - TOSEC, however, doesn't make any distinction between a real crack and a cracking group simply releasing a unprotected game.

Ironclaw · 04 July 2007, 07:50

I own the original of Lollypop.... but spilled honey over it once

. So, who wants to lick my lollypop?

Retro-Nerd · 04 August 2007, 22:21

@Codetapper, DJ Mike:

You can choose a "Sega Pad" in the options. Is there a button intend for jumping? I have a Sega Mega Drive Pad, but the jump with the Button A-C doesn't work.

mai · 09 October 2012, 19:32

Why not updating this one?(replacing the corrupt packed data)

Retroplay · 09 October 2012, 20:09

I have installed the game using SPS 2864 and it seems to work fine.
It's in the zone if anybody wants to give it a more thorough testing session.

mai · 09 October 2012, 20:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retroplay

I have installed the game using SPS 2864 and it seems to work fine.

This original release is faulty.

Retroplay · 09 October 2012, 20:18

Bugger.

mai · 09 October 2012, 20:24

There seems to be differences using different configurations.
A1200 - no Track 40 access, so it works.
A500 - Track 40 access - GURU

dlfrsilver · 09 October 2012, 22:24

i have this game in original, must i image it ?

prowler · 09 October 2012, 22:32

You know you want to.

Kitty · 10 October 2012, 01:00

Just tested the zoned version, with WinUAE 2.4.1, Classic Workbench UAE, A4000 Power settings, had a few graphics glitches before gameplay until I set it to cycle exact.
The games seems to play pretty well and looks like a nice game too. I have some sound glitching on it though, crackling.

Edit: Seems cycle exact causes the sound to crackle so I disabled it again, the graphics glitches are there before you start the game, very minor though.

mai · 10 October 2012, 17:38

File "6E" in WHDLoad installed game is corrupt.
Try to unpack this file, it does not.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlfrsilver

i have this game in original, must i image it ?

Submit to SPS, if you are not the one, who has contributed existing SPS release, maybe you have good version.
I can check it too.

dlfrsilver · 10 October 2012, 21:54

i have lollypop IPF

if it's what you mean

ok, i'll generate ADF of the game

mai · 11 October 2012, 18:05

If you are the contributor of available IPF, then there is no need to convert to ADF.
Available IPF has 1 corrupted file, fault of the developer/publisher.

dlfrsilver · 11 October 2012, 18:27

you need to use the update disk as disk 1 (available on internet).

Retroplay · 11 October 2012, 19:03

See if the WHD installed version in the zone is better.
It's installed using the updated disk 1.
File 6E has same filesize but different crc.

TjLaZer · 12 October 2012, 05:12

it is an absolute shame this game does not work in NTSC! Why does it REQUIRE PAL to work???? Does not even use the whole screen! Not to mention it runs like arse in PAL

mai · 12 October 2012, 18:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retroplay

See if the WHD installed version in the zone is better.
It's installed using the updated disk 1.
File 6E has same filesize but different crc.

Updated Disk 1 corrects this error.

Retroplay · 12 October 2012, 19:01

Excellent, I have uploaded the game to FTP now.

Oh and thanks a bunch for the info Denis, I never noticed there was an update disk until you mentioned it.

mai · 12 October 2012, 19:29

Is the original updated Disk on Aminet?

Retroplay · 12 October 2012, 19:50

No not as far as I know.

I just used "Lollypop (1995-02-01)(Rainbow Arts)(Disk 1 of 5)[h Motion][updated disk]" from TOSEC.

dlfrsilver · 13 October 2012, 00:38

someone has reported the error to rainbow arts, and we have indeed the patch disk

mai · 13 October 2012, 10:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlfrsilver

someone has reported the error to rainbow arts, and we have indeed the patch disk

In Original, i am aware about the scene release?

Sektor 83 · 13 October 2012, 13:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by killergorilla

Cracking unprotected games... interesting stuff

Indeed, like this one!

MegaBall (1994)(Hawkeye Soft)[cr Extreme][AGA & ECS version].adf

1. MegaBall isn't by "Hawkeye Software", it was (as it well known) an independent production by Ed & Al Mackey. First versions were actually Shareware, and only the last version was a 'commercial' release (distributed through IAM) that had nothing to do with this "Hawkeye Software". Seems like some idiots removed all the original text from the game referring to the original authors and changed all the text to this 'Hawkeye Software' nonsense.

2. There is nothing here to crack, but this version has a crack intro saying that it's been 'cracked'... D'oh!!

16 May 2007, 00:48	#1
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16 May 2007, 11:23	#3
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18 May 2007, 15:42	#5
Whitesnake Martin Shaw Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 318	One thing I noticed about Lollypops HD Install is the amount of ram it requires to run the game. I think it was 1.96mb chip or somewhere in that region, which isn't that practical to free up for casual Amiga users. Especially when most would have had a base Amiga. I bet there was probably a lot of complaints back in the day trying to get this game to run from the HD. __________________ Hi, I'm Martin Shaw. This is Run The Gauntlet. If you want to see Action Sports.... This is the place to be! EFNet #Amiga

03 July 2007, 17:29	#11
killergorilla Lesser Talent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Age: 31 Posts: 7,888	Cracking unprotected games... interesting stuff! I used the un-cracked first disk, then various other images I found. It seems to work fine but it is dull! __________________ I'm totally gratified that people find Interceptor worthy of being downloaded and played after so many years especially in light of its rather rudimentary visual content by standards constantly increasing over time.

04 August 2007, 22:21	#14
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 41 Posts: 8,372	@Codetapper, DJ Mike: You can choose a "Sega Pad" in the options. Is there a button intend for jumping? I have a Sega Mega Drive Pad, but the jump with the Button A-C doesn't work. Last edited by Retro-Nerd; 04 August 2007 at 22:45.

16 May 2007, 08:30	#2
Codetapper Moderator Join Date: May 2001 Location: Auckland / New Zealand Age: 38 Posts: 2,463	DJ Mike and myself have been working on it, it kind of works but there are bizarre access faults on several levels and one of the files on the original we were supplied is corrupt. Unless you own the original you can send us, there isn't much use asking for the game to be installed.

17 May 2007, 01:17	#4
DJ Mike Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 30 Posts: 53	Lollypop is screwed up big time. There are freak access faults that occur at random points, on ANY version of the game - no easy explanation other than just bad coding. I spent ages trying to track the problem down without much success

08 June 2007, 22:51	#6
Joe Maroni Moderator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Germany Age: 33 Posts: 1,052	ok Dj mike i have the original too..but it isn´t useful due to the fact of the access faults, am i right..???

03 July 2007, 01:49	#7
DJ Mike Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 30 Posts: 53	This evening I've released the install for Lollypop, warts and all. Sadly we were never able to track down the source of the random bugs in the game (to do so would require taking apart the entire game piece by piece which just isn't worth it), so I'm afraid this isn't a 100% release, but it's as good as it gets - and at least I've installed it as real files for you Decrunch them to speed up loading if you want. M;.

03 July 2007, 17:11	#9
DJ Mike Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 30 Posts: 53	The game had no protection to begin with, so I would hardly think of any warez version as a crack!

03 July 2007, 23:23	#12
DJ Mike Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 30 Posts: 53	I think the [cr PDY] is simply because PDY released it (although maybe they tried to take credit for cracking it - pretty lame if they did!) - TOSEC, however, doesn't make any distinction between a real crack and a cracking group simply releasing a unprotected game.

04 July 2007, 07:50	#13
Ironclaw Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: ... Age: 34 Posts: 3,315	I own the original of Lollypop.... but spilled honey over it once . So, who wants to lick my lollypop?

09 October 2012, 19:32	#15
mai ModCollector TOSEC member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Stendal/Germany Age: 44 Posts: 3,618	Why not updating this one?(replacing the corrupt packed data) __________________ A1200, Blizzard 68030/50, 32MB Fast, Kick 3.1, 2GB IDE>CF-Card, 4GB PCMCIA CF-Card

09 October 2012, 20:09	#16
Retroplay Lemon Curry ? Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Frederikshavn, Denmark Age: 38 Posts: 1,937	I have installed the game using SPS 2864 and it seems to work fine. It's in the zone if anybody wants to give it a more thorough testing session. __________________ RIP mom (1953-2008)

09 October 2012, 20:18	#18
Retroplay Lemon Curry ? Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Frederikshavn, Denmark Age: 38 Posts: 1,937	Bugger. __________________ RIP mom (1953-2008)

09 October 2012, 20:24	#19
mai ModCollector TOSEC member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Stendal/Germany Age: 44 Posts: 3,618	There seems to be differences using different configurations. A1200 - no Track 40 access, so it works. A500 - Track 40 access - GURU __________________ A1200, Blizzard 68030/50, 32MB Fast, Kick 3.1, 2GB IDE>CF-Card, 4GB PCMCIA CF-Card

09 October 2012, 22:24	#20
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-ExtADF Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 35 Posts: 4,508	i have this game in original, must i image it ? __________________ Denis

09 October 2012, 22:32	#21
prowler Global Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sidcup, England Posts: 8,696	You know you want to.

10 October 2012, 01:00	#22
Kitty Stay a while,Stay Forever Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK London Age: 30 Posts: 1,308	Just tested the zoned version, with WinUAE 2.4.1, Classic Workbench UAE, A4000 Power settings, had a few graphics glitches before gameplay until I set it to cycle exact. The games seems to play pretty well and looks like a nice game too. I have some sound glitching on it though, crackling. Edit: Seems cycle exact causes the sound to crackle so I disabled it again, the graphics glitches are there before you start the game, very minor though. __________________ http://awesome.commodore.me http://awesome.commodore.me/forum http://twitter.com/CommodoreBlog http://www.facebook.com/pages/Commod...169766?sk=wall Last edited by Kitty; 10 October 2012 at 01:35.

10 October 2012, 21:54	#24
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-ExtADF Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 35 Posts: 4,508	i have lollypop IPF if it's what you mean ok, i'll generate ADF of the game __________________ Denis

11 October 2012, 18:05	#25
mai ModCollector TOSEC member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Stendal/Germany Age: 44 Posts: 3,618	If you are the contributor of available IPF, then there is no need to convert to ADF. Available IPF has 1 corrupted file, fault of the developer/publisher. __________________ A1200, Blizzard 68030/50, 32MB Fast, Kick 3.1, 2GB IDE>CF-Card, 4GB PCMCIA CF-Card

11 October 2012, 18:27	#26
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-ExtADF Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 35 Posts: 4,508	you need to use the update disk as disk 1 (available on internet). __________________ Denis

11 October 2012, 19:03	#27
Retroplay Lemon Curry ? Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Frederikshavn, Denmark Age: 38 Posts: 1,937	See if the WHD installed version in the zone is better. It's installed using the updated disk 1. File 6E has same filesize but different crc. __________________ RIP mom (1953-2008)

12 October 2012, 05:12	#28
TjLaZer Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Tacoma, WA USA Age: 41 Posts: 619	it is an absolute shame this game does not work in NTSC! Why does it REQUIRE PAL to work???? Does not even use the whole screen! Not to mention it runs like arse in PAL

12 October 2012, 19:01	#30
Retroplay Lemon Curry ? Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Frederikshavn, Denmark Age: 38 Posts: 1,937	Excellent, I have uploaded the game to FTP now. Oh and thanks a bunch for the info Denis, I never noticed there was an update disk until you mentioned it. __________________ RIP mom (1953-2008)

12 October 2012, 19:29	#31
mai ModCollector TOSEC member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Stendal/Germany Age: 44 Posts: 3,618	Is the original updated Disk on Aminet? __________________ A1200, Blizzard 68030/50, 32MB Fast, Kick 3.1, 2GB IDE>CF-Card, 4GB PCMCIA CF-Card

12 October 2012, 19:50	#32
Retroplay Lemon Curry ? Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Frederikshavn, Denmark Age: 38 Posts: 1,937	No not as far as I know. I just used "Lollypop (1995-02-01)(Rainbow Arts)(Disk 1 of 5)[h Motion][updated disk]" from TOSEC. __________________ RIP mom (1953-2008)

13 October 2012, 00:38	#33
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-ExtADF Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 35 Posts: 4,508	someone has reported the error to rainbow arts, and we have indeed the patch disk __________________ Denis

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