icon.library 46.4 test versions

[PeterK]

Updated to icon.library 46.4.258:

Direct support for workbench.library v39/v40 by reintroducing the GetIcon() function mapping all newer icon formats to the 4 system colors.

[Calabazam]

Still not working, even with the new version that don't need the newer workbench.libray.

Could MCP or another fancy program from my SS be responsible?

[daxb]

Originally Posted by Calabazam

Could MCP or another fancy program from my SS be responsible?

Just comment (";") MCP out and reboot. Then you will see if that help.

[PeterK]

Originally Posted by Calabazam

Still not working, even with the new version that don't need the newer workbench.libray.

Could MCP or another fancy program from my SS be responsible?

Could be everything. Why don't you tell me at least what the Version command reported?

You can also try to comment out the first two lines in your s-s, because I don't know what they do. And if it doesn't help try to comment out one line after another until you find the reason.

[mfilos]

Peter my friend just checked the latest 258 version and it ROX.
Can't test for older workbench.library since I only use Kickstart 3.1+

I had an old version since I haven't updated for some time now, and I can say that icon loading (OS4, PNG) is A LOT faster (at least 2x-3x for sure) than the previous version that used datatypes.
Terrific job. I can't thank you enough for these constant and important updates.

/respect

[PeterK]

Update to icon.library 46.4.259

I've rewritten the GetIcon()/PutIcon() functions again which now preserve the OS 3.5 color mapping information even if you save the icons with the old workbench.library versions v39 or v40. Just the PNG and OS4 truecolor images are converted into the OS 3.5 format.

[mfilos]

And it works just fine as always!
Awesome work there mate

[PeterK]

Update to icon.library 46.4.260

I've done it again. Now the GetIcon()/PutIcon() functions will keep using all the 256 colors of the OS 3.5 image data instead of mapping to the 4 system colors only when workbench.library v39 or v40 are in use. Thus, it's sufficient to load the icon.library resident to get support for all icons in 256 colors. Use SwazInfo for icon information and Iconian as icon editor.

New IconDemoADF.rar

[Retrofan]

Great. We should give you a gift or something

[mfilos]

Peter for president
Nice news man... Just tested it in my 8 colors (MWB) ECS enviroment and it rox. Unbelievable how fast PNG and OS4 icons load in such limited machines without anything extra software and datatypes!!!
Epic work there man... /respect

[PeterK]

Thank you for your positive responses, my friends !!

But, did you really test this icon.library without using Scalos ?
If Scalos or DOpus5 are involved, then they always replace some icon.library and also workbench.library functions with their own code. In both cases the GetIcon() function, which I integrated now again, will not be called at all. It is only called when the workbench.library v39 or v40 is doing the complete GUI representation.

[mfilos]

I'm using ClassicWB 3.9 which doesn't use Scalos my friend.
Scalos is only used on ClassicWB Full/Adv/AdvSp (3.1 versions).
I also dislike DOpus5 so this was from a stock Workbench.library 45.131 on OS3.9

Gief more EPIC reworked modules like this. So much win in one thread!

[Akira]

OK I Gotta try this, NewIcons pisses me off and I got way too many "little square"icons on my Amiga.
Do you think it can be run in tandem with FBlit, Peter?

I love your MWB setup, mfilos. Is that visualprefs on the windows? I'd love to take a peek at such a setup.

[PeterK]

Yes, it really should be run together with FBlit.
Have a look into the IconDemoADF to see how that works.

@mfilos

Ok, so you could use your setup with workbench.library v39 or v40, too. But, of course, it's recommended to keep using the workbench.library v45, because it's much more powerful.

[Akira]

Nice!
So where can we get this latest version? Aminet version is .256

[PeterK]

The latest files are always attached to the first posting of this thread.

[Akira]

Ahhh punching myself on the face for being a tit.
I figure it out and it seems to be working, however, I can't seem to be able to remove icon borders (as I think NewIcons was taking care of that before). How should I do that? I run the iconsframeoff command and nothing happens.

[PeterK]

No, it seems to be impossible with the older workbench.libraries. They don't support frameless icons. At least, I couldn't find a way to achieve that yet. IconFramesOFF has no effect.

Btw, somebody reported a very old bug concerning disk icon snapshots with v39 or v40. The fix may come tomorrow or next days.

[Akira]

My RAM disk looks like a black dot, if that's the bug.
Is there any way you can look into NewIcons and see how they remove the frame, though? Everything is fantastic except that problem.

I wonder why they had icon borders to begin with, a totally shitty design decision by Commodore :P

[emufan]

PeterK: the new demo adf does not contain the workbench.library. can you add the newer again to it? thanks for all this.

[Akira]

Originally Posted by emufan

PeterK: the new demo adf does not contain the workbench.library. can you add the newer again to it? thanks for all this.

I thought the new version does not need workbench.library... am I wrong?

[emufan]

new icon.library is now working with normal workbench.library; but workbench.library 45.131 has some additional features and is working too with new icon.library.

[Akira]

I FOUND A SOLUTION TO BORDERS!
After trying all border removal apps on Aminet, only one really works.

OK, it does so after Workbench has started, as it is a WBStartup app, but it is working as far as I tested.
The app in question is this:
http://aminet.net/package/util/wb/2b_RemIBorder

Perhaps it helps Peter figure out how to add this into his library, but if it doesn't, at least we can all have borderless icons.
NOTE it doesn't remove icon filling though, so it's just for a plain background color workbench :/
I say it's better than nothing, for 3.X users.

[Retrofan]

Excuse me, but I've tried CWBAdvSP of one of my Cf's and I coudn't see for example the icon of my PCMCIA (just a dot). I've installed the last version that I had in the PCmcia Cf and I still can't see it and a lot of icons it has. What is the version of your library I should use for Scalos or should I change anything else? I have to say that I haven't tried this last beta but here.

[emufan]

retrofan: i downloaded the demo adf from first posting. put tools from df0:c to my harddrive, also icon.lib and wb.lib (from older demo adf). editing startup-sequence. and thats it. use artm tool from aminet, to check which version of icon and workbench library you use.

[Akira]

Originally Posted by Retrofan

Excuse me, but I've tried CWBAdvSP of one of my Cf's and I coudn't see for example the icon of my PCMCIA (just a dot).

I think it has to do with DefIcons. It's doing the same on every deficon I have. It doesn't do it on any file that has a .info file attached.
Is there a way around this, Peter?

[PeterK]

Update to icon.library 46.4.262 and to IconDemoADF.rar

Fixed some disk snapshot and def_icon problems. For details, see 1. posting.

Sorry, but there is no space on the ADF left for the big fat wblib. Use your own, plz.
If you need a patch for the latest workbench library v45 to let it work under OS 3.0:
http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=838432&postcount=1

@Akira, emufan & Retrofan

Are your problems solved now with the latest update ? Of course, I cannot remove the limitations of the older workbench.libraries. My intention was it to make possible to use the wblibs directly from ROM on OS 3.0/3.1 systems. But the workbench.library v44+ will always be the better choice.

[PeterK]

Update to icon.library 46.4.263

Now, I could improve the def_icon processing. It uses the DefIcons tool from the NewIcons46 package.

[mfilos]

Damn... this was some quick update there Peter my friend.
262 at night, 263 in the morning. Good thing I kick these via ACATune or I'd had to burn all day LOL

Awesome job as always man!!! \o/

[PeterK]

No my friend, mfilos,
a real Greek would grave important things like this into stone, that holds up for ever. How else could we know after more than 2000 years who the greatest men were in Greece at those days. Just writing blogs on the net is not enough. Think about it....

[Retrofan]

jeje... I don't use much my Scalos Workbench. I think I will wait a couple of days to see if you make an icon.miracle to store in libs...

[PeterK]

Ok Retrofan,
if nothing goes wrong and nobody is crying anymore that there are any bugs, issues, problems or some features missing, has demand for anything that could be solved then I will try to build up a new Aminet release in the next days.

[mfilos]

Awesome! You need to work on other ROM modules in order to remove copyright shiz like you did on icon.library and make them faster and more stable!!!

Omw to carve my Amiga Blog into stone... LOL

[Akira]

I need to give this a try and report back to you. The library is fantastic, got to say. And now that I use that tool I posted above to remove borders, I am happy, as I don't really use workbench or window background images or patterns.

[PeterK]

Unfortunately, I had a few little problems with this DontShowIBorder tool, since the first icons, the disks, came up to early for this tool to remove the frames. A delay for LoadWB caused the system to start in an unstable 4 color mode. The only solution seems to call ResetWB from the Workbench menu. But these issues could be just a timing problem, which may or may not appear, depending on the system configuration.

[Akira]

Yeah, I had those problems with most tools, but not with the one I posted, and I ran it in an "unlimited speed" system on WinUAE and everything worked fine. In any case, it's not a problem for you to fix

[PeterK]

I found another solution: NoIconBorder from Aminet.

 
Run >NIL: C:Wait 4       +
          C:NoIconBorder >NIL:
LoadWB
EndCLI >NIL:

That works reliable.

[Akira]

And it loads before Workbench, that's really cool. How did I miss that one?
Let me try it!

[PeterK]

No, it's just launched before LoadWB, but it is executed with 4 seconds delay to be sure that the workbench screen has already been opened.

The launching cannot be done after LoadWB, because the startup-sequence must be finished as soon as possible or you will run into the 4 color screen problem.

[Akira]

Well that's why the one I linked to works I guess, because it is loaded on WBStartup.

EDIT: tried out the new version, Deficons works great, everything is looking fine!