the big end? - Page 4

stainy · 15 September 2012, 00:27

4mb of source

med music

dlfrsilver · 15 September 2012, 00:42

excellent !!! well done folks

Galahad/FLT · 15 September 2012, 00:43

I'll let Stainy respond to this thread as its his find, but needless to say, its not good news folks.

dlfrsilver · 15 September 2012, 01:00

Why ? if you can assemble the source, it's ok ? don't you think ?

stainy · 15 September 2012, 01:01

Yeah, not good news..
Lots of stuff missing.. only one track

but it`s better than nothing..
I`ve got an email into the guy.. see if he remembers if this is all he has.. etc.
I read some reviews where they showed it off at some World of Amiga show. So this might be that preview

Galahad/FLT · 15 September 2012, 01:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlfrsilver

Why ? if you can assemble the source, it's ok ? don't you think ?

All the code is there for a one level CD32 preview. Theres megabytes and megabytes of data missing.

There should be 16 tracks, and theres only one.

There should be 16 different track music, and theres only one.

Hopefully Stainy can prod those guys to dig out more stuff, otherwise its a barely playable one level demo.

prowler · 15 September 2012, 01:18

It could be worse. Look on the bright side. At least there's no virus damage.

Galahad/FLT · 15 September 2012, 01:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by prowler

It could be worse. Look on the bright side. At least there's no virus damage.

And the disks didn't get lost.... ahem, i'll get my coat!

Codetapper · 15 September 2012, 02:58

Even a 1 level demo would be awesome, and I'm sure others here would help make new tracks if it's possible to incorporate them!

Galahad/FLT · 15 September 2012, 03:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Codetapper

Even a 1 level demo would be awesome, and I'm sure others here would help make new tracks if it's possible to incorporate them!

Theres no included tools for making anything. But i'll endeavour to get something running, so far its a bit messy.

wilshy · 21 September 2012, 09:33

Shame. Looks like it IS the demo I saw running at a show years ago.

I'm with Codetapper though, anything is better than nothing.

Codetapper · 22 September 2012, 02:27

Galahad: What's happening with the game? Surely by now you can at least tell us what you have. Is it a mess of source code? If so, what's the problem assembling it? Are there any executable demos of the level that does exist? I think lots of people are dying to see anything of it other than the screenshots Dr Bong uploaded as part of the HOL entry ages ago!

Galahad/FLT · 22 September 2012, 10:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Codetapper

Galahad: What's happening with the game? Surely by now you can at least tell us what you have. Is it a mess of source code? If so, what's the problem assembling it? Are there any executable demos of the level that does exist? I think lots of people are dying to see anything of it other than the screenshots Dr Bong uploaded as part of the HOL entry ages ago!

I thought I made it clear, its just a one level preview of the cd32 version, its not playable, you can move the car, but theres no collision detection whatsoever.

I can upload the assembled preview for people if its required, but as for a game, its not even that.

fryguy · 22 September 2012, 12:05

Please upload it anyway.

Codetapper · 22 September 2012, 12:14

I agree with Fryguy, we want to see the graphics at least for the demo level even if there's no game as such!

Galahad/FLT · 22 September 2012, 16:21

Ok, will endeavour to release it today, warts n all!

Codetapper · 22 September 2012, 20:32

Either Supervision have a far more advanced version somewhere, or someone really exaggerated what had been done. The big previews in The One stated that accurate laptimes within a split second of the real tracks were achieved!

If it was to hype the game up, it just feels wrong to blatantly make stuff like this up. I hope there's more but I've read enough "Games that Weren't" entries to know sometimes all you get is a few screenshots and an unplayable game!

Can't wait for the demo!

Galahad/FLT · 22 September 2012, 21:25

Now in the Zone.

Ensure you look at 'readmefirst' before trying to play

Codetapper · 23 September 2012, 11:17

It's a real shame the developers fell into the usual trap of developing the title screen, menu system, credits, options, music and forgetting to get the main game engine going first and a few tracks working properly.

After all, they could always have simplified all the excess fluff like picking drivers, teams, wing settings and just had a Super Sprint style racing game.

BTW a nicer startup script for the game is simply:

assign cd0: dismount >NIL:
assign cd0: ""
TheBigEnd

fryguy · 23 September 2012, 17:13

I only tried it under WinUAE but are you supposed to be able to drive on the track?
When i press "start race" it shows the track and then hangs.

Perhaps it works better on real hardware.

Galahad/FLT · 23 September 2012, 18:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by fryguy

I only tried it under WinUAE but are you supposed to be able to drive on the track?
When i press "start race" it shows the track and then hangs.

Perhaps it works better on real hardware.

I did it all under Winuae.

Make sure you are using an AGA configuration.

stainy · 23 September 2012, 20:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galahad/FLT

I did it all under Winuae.

Make sure you are using an AGA configuration.

Oh so it is AGA? remember you said you couldn`t see it being AGA

fryguy · 23 September 2012, 20:43

I'm pretty sure i had enabled full AGA emulation but it's probably some other setting which was wrong.

Galahad/FLT · 23 September 2012, 22:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by stainy

Oh so it is AGA? remember you said you couldn`t see it being AGA

Its AGA in the sense that thats the way its been coded, though with decent programming it shouldn't need to be AGA.

its AGA for the overlay sprites, it only uses an extra bitplane, but for that extra bitplane, i've frankly seen better looking OCS/ECS games than this.

The other reason for insisting on AGA is the ridiculous memory requirements for the maps and blocks and stuff.

Reynolds · 23 September 2012, 23:28

interesting stuff. It reminds me to Warm Up, although this one has more diversity in the track tileset and gives me the feel to look more far than in WU.

Codetapper · 24 September 2012, 01:07

The Hidden must have some more stuff somewhere as the Amiga Power preview of The Big End has what appears to be the Monaco track with tunnel showing.

I still can't believe that what we have here was shown as a demo at the World of Commodore 94 show, as the track doesn't even have all the blocks let alone any collision. And the car graphics look better in the magazines than on-screen. Also those huge status panels are far too distracting. A much smaller panel without all the fluff would have been far better and not required AGA sprites!

prowler · 24 September 2012, 01:22

Let's hope there is more coming Stainy's way soon.

stainy · 24 September 2012, 14:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by prowler

Let's hope there is more coming Stainy's way soon.

Emails are already in to the guy

prowler · 24 September 2012, 22:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by stainy

Emails are already in to the guy

A big thanks for all your effort and good luck mate.

wilshy · 07 October 2012, 12:34

I'm getting the attached error after trying to assign both ways, file is not executable.

Running on E-UAE, A4000 hard drive setup into Workbench.

Any thoughts, other than it's E-UAE but I don't believe that's the issue.

fryguy · 07 October 2012, 13:21

You could try protect +e TheBigEnd or if it is protect TheBigEnd +e
Can't remember

prowler · 07 October 2012, 21:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by fryguy

You could try protect +e TheBigEnd or if it is protect TheBigEnd +e
Can't remember

It's the latter: protect TheBigEnd +e

15 September 2012, 00:27	#121
stainy Zone Friend Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Stanstead Abbotts / Hertfordshire Age: 41 Posts: 1,215	4mb of source med music __________________ KO-GATHERING.COM - KICK OFF 2, PLAYER MANAGER and others. http://www.ko-gathering.com

15 September 2012, 00:42	#122
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-ExtADF Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 35 Posts: 4,524	excellent !!! well done folks __________________ Denis

15 September 2012, 00:43	#123
Galahad/FLT Going nowhere Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: United Kingdom Age: 39 Posts: 5,028	I'll let Stainy respond to this thread as its his find, but needless to say, its not good news folks. __________________ Former member of: LSD, Scoopex, Razor 1911, Dual Crew Shining, Rednex, Fairlight. www.southwestscrap.co.uk

15 September 2012, 01:00	#124
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-ExtADF Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 35 Posts: 4,524	Why ? if you can assemble the source, it's ok ? don't you think ? __________________ Denis

15 September 2012, 01:01	#125
stainy Zone Friend Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Stanstead Abbotts / Hertfordshire Age: 41 Posts: 1,215	Yeah, not good news.. Lots of stuff missing.. only one track but it`s better than nothing.. I`ve got an email into the guy.. see if he remembers if this is all he has.. etc. I read some reviews where they showed it off at some World of Amiga show. So this might be that preview __________________ KO-GATHERING.COM - KICK OFF 2, PLAYER MANAGER and others. http://www.ko-gathering.com

15 September 2012, 01:18	#127
prowler Global Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sidcup, England Posts: 8,700	It could be worse. Look on the bright side. At least there's no virus damage.

15 September 2012, 02:58	#129
Codetapper Moderator Join Date: May 2001 Location: Auckland / New Zealand Age: 38 Posts: 2,463	Even a 1 level demo would be awesome, and I'm sure others here would help make new tracks if it's possible to incorporate them!

21 September 2012, 09:33	#131
wilshy Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Aylesbury Posts: 293	Shame. Looks like it IS the demo I saw running at a show years ago. I'm with Codetapper though, anything is better than nothing.

22 September 2012, 02:27	#132
Codetapper Moderator Join Date: May 2001 Location: Auckland / New Zealand Age: 38 Posts: 2,463	Galahad: What's happening with the game? Surely by now you can at least tell us what you have. Is it a mess of source code? If so, what's the problem assembling it? Are there any executable demos of the level that does exist? I think lots of people are dying to see anything of it other than the screenshots Dr Bong uploaded as part of the HOL entry ages ago!

22 September 2012, 12:05	#134
fryguy Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Karlsborg, Sweden Age: 33 Posts: 464	Please upload it anyway.

22 September 2012, 12:14	#135
Codetapper Moderator Join Date: May 2001 Location: Auckland / New Zealand Age: 38 Posts: 2,463	I agree with Fryguy, we want to see the graphics at least for the demo level even if there's no game as such!

22 September 2012, 16:21	#136
Galahad/FLT Going nowhere Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: United Kingdom Age: 39 Posts: 5,028	Ok, will endeavour to release it today, warts n all! __________________ Former member of: LSD, Scoopex, Razor 1911, Dual Crew Shining, Rednex, Fairlight. www.southwestscrap.co.uk

22 September 2012, 20:32	#137
Codetapper Moderator Join Date: May 2001 Location: Auckland / New Zealand Age: 38 Posts: 2,463	Either Supervision have a far more advanced version somewhere, or someone really exaggerated what had been done. The big previews in The One stated that accurate laptimes within a split second of the real tracks were achieved! If it was to hype the game up, it just feels wrong to blatantly make stuff like this up. I hope there's more but I've read enough "Games that Weren't" entries to know sometimes all you get is a few screenshots and an unplayable game! Can't wait for the demo!

22 September 2012, 21:25	#138
Galahad/FLT Going nowhere Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: United Kingdom Age: 39 Posts: 5,028	Now in the Zone. Ensure you look at 'readmefirst' before trying to play __________________ Former member of: LSD, Scoopex, Razor 1911, Dual Crew Shining, Rednex, Fairlight. www.southwestscrap.co.uk

23 September 2012, 11:17	#139
Codetapper Moderator Join Date: May 2001 Location: Auckland / New Zealand Age: 38 Posts: 2,463	It's a real shame the developers fell into the usual trap of developing the title screen, menu system, credits, options, music and forgetting to get the main game engine going first and a few tracks working properly. After all, they could always have simplified all the excess fluff like picking drivers, teams, wing settings and just had a Super Sprint style racing game. BTW a nicer startup script for the game is simply: assign cd0: dismount >NIL: assign cd0: "" TheBigEnd

23 September 2012, 17:13	#140
fryguy Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Karlsborg, Sweden Age: 33 Posts: 464	I only tried it under WinUAE but are you supposed to be able to drive on the track? When i press "start race" it shows the track and then hangs. Perhaps it works better on real hardware.

23 September 2012, 20:43	#143
fryguy Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Karlsborg, Sweden Age: 33 Posts: 464	I'm pretty sure i had enabled full AGA emulation but it's probably some other setting which was wrong.

23 September 2012, 23:28	#145
Reynolds Alien Breeder Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Szigetszentmiklos / Hungary Age: 35 Posts: 445	interesting stuff. It reminds me to Warm Up, although this one has more diversity in the track tileset and gives me the feel to look more far than in WU.

24 September 2012, 01:07	#146
Codetapper Moderator Join Date: May 2001 Location: Auckland / New Zealand Age: 38 Posts: 2,463	The Hidden must have some more stuff somewhere as the Amiga Power preview of The Big End has what appears to be the Monaco track with tunnel showing. I still can't believe that what we have here was shown as a demo at the World of Commodore 94 show, as the track doesn't even have all the blocks let alone any collision. And the car graphics look better in the magazines than on-screen. Also those huge status panels are far too distracting. A much smaller panel without all the fluff would have been far better and not required AGA sprites!

24 September 2012, 01:22	#147
prowler Global Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sidcup, England Posts: 8,700	Let's hope there is more coming Stainy's way soon.

07 October 2012, 12:34	#150
wilshy Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Aylesbury Posts: 293	I'm getting the attached error after trying to assign both ways, file is not executable. Running on E-UAE, A4000 hard drive setup into Workbench. Any thoughts, other than it's E-UAE but I don't believe that's the issue. Attached Thumbnails

07 October 2012, 13:21	#151
fryguy Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Karlsborg, Sweden Age: 33 Posts: 464	You could try protect +e TheBigEnd or if it is protect TheBigEnd +e Can't remember

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