Amikit 16 Colors conversion

[Retrofan]

Ok, thank you very much PeterK. Anyway as I told you I never would have noticed it as yesterday I was using it for real and I was having 82% of free chip (and that's with HighGFX, with Superplus is around 85%).
Ok, so now I will delete it, but I've got curiosity as you say for such a "big memleak"...
Tried right now. It stays with the same free chip after booting with or without it enabled: 1642648, no difference at all. Another thing is that PowerIcon could be giving some other problem of incompatibility.
Edit: Yes, I've got the same chip ram, but 1% more free, so I'm gaining with the other.
Another thing is that till the software update of the indivision will be available it's very hard to be using HighGfx, as after only some minutes it starts having vertical bars, worse as long as I keep using it. BUT as Gibs said, disabling FBlit it seems to stay right or at least for longer. I'll have to try .

[PeterK]

PowerIcons was eating up all the FastMem first. As long as that happened the ChipMem didn't go down. But when all FastMem was consumed by PowerIcons it started to kill the ChipMem too. Usually, PowerIcons has really no memleak, but it doesn't like to work with DOpus Magellan II as it is clearly stated in the readme from Elena Novaretti.

[Retrofan]

Really I shoudn't have used it and less without reading the manual. Now I will try updating also your library, but as you said surely I won't notice anything.

Edit: This is the wallpaper I'm going to use for HighGfx. It isn't rar, but that I can't upload an iff file. Rename it to iff.
Edit: Now it seems I've configured SongPlayer to play fast in the miggy. It was working right in WinUAE though.
The ham videos I did are huge in screen size, but the sound was only good in WinUAE. I will have to remake them.
Edit: Videos working right now for real.
But... SongPlayer doesn't play as fast as it should. I think it's all a fault of not having ACATune working. In another CWB39 it plays better.

[cosmicfrog]

never really been a fan of opus5

was simple edit out opus 5 thoug and put loadwb in SS, no probs so far, well apart from icons haveing no text you can see but a quick drive by the fonts prefs sorted that out.

also ACA I dont have ACA so that went as well hehehehe ;;;;;;;;;;;;;

EDIT:

what are the "_UAEFSDB.___" files for ? as there are nearly 4000 of them, Ive deleted them at moment as then dont seem to do anything useful

[Retrofan]

So cosmicfrog, mate you've done a disaster with my version. This is how it should be:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpDw8...ature=youtu.be




Edit: Today has been released ACATune17 and now it recognizes the ACA, so I've got some mips more.
Also I've changed Songplayer to load first in ram, and changed the priority, and now seems to work better, but isn't perfect yet.

[PeterK]

Originally Posted by cosmicfrog

never really been a fan of opus5

was simple edit out opus 5 thoug and put loadwb in SS, no probs so far, well apart from icons haveing no text you can see but a quick drive by the fonts prefs sorted that out.....

A very reasonable and intelligent modification, IMHO. Nothing is more compatible and faster than the original Workbench

Btw, the _UAEFS.... files are required for WinUAE only.

[Retrofan]

Originally Posted by PeterK

A very reasonable and intelligent modification, IMHO. Nothing is more compatible and faster than the original Workbench

Btw, the _UAEFS.... files are required for WinUAE only.

Yes I know. There is a lot of rubbish like that anyway, libraries to delete, and some program too.

Edit: Now I noticed that I had left the Fast Ata disabled. Now it's working at Pio 3, but I must fix a problem with the Cf Hd, as I get messages of DH0 attempt outside partition if I try to use Pio4.

[Amiten]

Congratulations Retrofan! I have my A1200 Runing Your Mod of Amikit real good in my ACA1230/42

I take a Sandisk CF 8GB partition in 3,8GB SFS for the SYS run very well quicker i think than FFS and another 2 partition in FFS for APPS & Multimedia
at the moment I dont´t Change nothing I check with time What I can Add to this Amazing Distro for our forget machines


I try on my A1200 68060 Apollo but RamLibs and others Crash appears ,gonna be amazing if is posible to run in a plenty Ram machine 68060 and the super resolution of indivision AGA MKII any IDEA how to modify your distro to make usable on this cain of AMIGAs?...

Cheers mate...

[Retrofan]

Yes, you should first think if you want it to use 16 or more colors.
If you want more you could try with the real Amikit, disable the WBStartup and leave only what I left, and try using my s-s and user-startup and surely copying C, monitors and... better see this guide:

http://amikit.amiga.sk/download/misc...real_Amiga.pdf

If you just want it with 16 colors running right you can rename Libs and Datatypes and put your owns from another system you've got running, and copying the ones you don't have from the real Amikit.

Another thing: about the version I sent you, you should disable or better delete Power Icons at the end of the s-s, and songplayer needs adjustments to play right. Also the ham videos were recorded with 24fps, and it's too much for the miggy and the sound. The last I've made plays right with 22fps (yes, I know you have made your own tutorial). You should use or smart file system or Professional File System, that is the best and faster.
http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?...+install+guide

Edit: 3,8Gb for the first partition? That's too much. Never use more than 1Gb. Mine has around 850mb.
Ah, and check ACATune -status. Surely it isn't working. Install the latest (yesterday) ACATune v1.7 http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=55059&page=65

Edit: Yes, my diary, Lol. SongPlayer works almost perfect with the Fast Ata at Pio3 and now that I'm using the ACATune V1.7. Well, it could work better, with Scopes even if I can use at least Pio 4. Pio 3 is around 5Mb/s, and Pio 4 around 8Mb/s. Pio 5 around 10Mb/s. I've just bought an 8Gb Sandisk Cf. Also I've changed the mobo. The vertical bars I was having after a time using HighGFX seem (still is soon to tell, but) a problem of the mobo.

Editing my diary: Yes, the vertical bars of the Indi are now something of the past. Today I've had good news that I will tell in a time. I've got Voyager V3 working really nice with my setup, and I've been installing Shapeshifter to work really well, although still coudn't get it to connect Internet. Today I've changed the Help of WB2000, as it wasn't working right. Now it opens right with IBrowse.

Edit: This is important. I'm doing (starting) now all from the beginning. I want to make an Amikit 16 Colors just like the original 1.6.2 (well, more or less), without so much "improvements" of mine; just like it should be. Well, when you use only 16 colors and no FPU you lose some things, so I think I must use anothers to gain that way. I've began an installation over a fresh Amikit and the good news are that I've got less problems with Enforcer. Now even Morpheuz works. The bad news are that I don't know where I was getting so much chip ram with the other (really, that's incredible).

Edit: Jeje. I've got now 1.777.000 (around) chip mem. It was I hadn't installed right CyberBugfix. Still a little less than in the other, but I believe enough.
This new Amikit 16 colors is very similar to the original one; not so beautiful as my last, but more "original".

Edit: Now another song to choose while booting, although it has to be very short. Right now I'm installing this new Amikit in a Sandisk CF to try it. I think that if it goes right I'll make another video.

[paulo_becas]

I can't wait to try the final version of your modded Amikit.
Really top class work.

[Retrofan]

Originally Posted by cosmicfrog

never really been a fan of opus5

was simple edit out opus 5 thoug and put loadwb in SS, no probs so far, well apart from icons haveing no text you can see but a quick drive by the fonts prefs sorted that out.

Just to tell that now my Amikit runs perfectly MorpheuZ, so I can select in 2 seconds (and a reboot) to change it to use Magellan or Scalos or Workbench, as you like.

The only problem I've got now is a message booting Scalos (http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=66526) , but it runs perfectly anyway.

Video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SNOM...ature=youtu.be

Ah, and take a look at the final seconds of the video how fast the icons are shown.

Edit: I've fixed Scalos. Don't ask me how; just an hour later after the video. Now I've got no pen allocated (0/16) and all is ok, without any message and the images right.

Edit: I've left 3 pens that work, so now everything looks fine (the colors of the letters viewing the drawers by name weren't right before). Today I've had to remake all the menus of Scalos, as they weren't the same of Amikit, dunno why, so I've made them manually and now they are just like the original. What's left? Perhaps to change some library to avoid some problems using Enforcer, but they aren't so much like at the beginning. Tomorrow I think I will install it again in my Cf to see how all works for real.

[cosmicfrog]

been out of it for a while, glad see you still active with this

[paulo_becas]

So when do you think you can have this ready for the guys? I'm really curious about it and can't wait to try it on my 1200.

[Retrofan]

Still something important can be improved. I was thinking in changing the Themes Amikit has (using MorpheuZ), that although remapped to 16 colors, only BlackChrome looks good (but could be improved).

Edit: I've included Rebel's skins (SilverBlue and SilverGreen) in the MorpheuZ menu. I've left them as the others are, and with a message telling Mod of Theme by Rebel_CD32 as I'm using AmiKit's logos. I would like him to tell me if he likes it.

I also have to see if I can change the 24bits Themes to work as the others (actually they don't work, they use afa prefs).

New video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Rwl0...ature=youtu.be

Edit: Now I've deleted/disabled the option for 24bit Themes, as they can't work. Anyway they aren't necessary, what I would need are better Themes than the existing in Classic themes.

Edit: Today I've remade all the top screen Scalos menus to be the same of Amikit, although I've left an option for undo and redo as I think they are great, changed the Shut down to Reboot, and I've remade all of the Gui prefs of the Themes, as they are wrong in Amikit; they must have a difference of 2 points between Border Sizes, top/bottom (I use 8) and Titlebar Height (6). You notice that when you open IBrowse for example; if it's wrong it won't show the letters and images starting and closing IBrowse, like it happens in Amikit.

Edit: I've disabled from MorpheuZ 5 Themes, as they don't look nice. I always can add more if someday Rebel_CD32 wants to share any other. BTW I'm trying to get in contact with him and I can't.

[cosmicfrog]

well I`ve got it to boot in winuae, can I ask you to add the dblPal monitor driver as that the one i use most of the time 640x512 No flicker

I going try it on my A2000 040 but first problem is the boot picture, it seems to want an aga machine. For the time being I`ve just commented out Bootscreen from startup-sequence but it be nice if this could be solved

[Retrofan]

Originally Posted by cosmicfrog

well I`ve got it to boot in winuae, can I ask you to add the dblPal monitor driver as that the one i use most of the time 640x512 No flicker

I going try it on my A2000 040 but first problem is the boot picture, it seems to want an aga machine. For the time being I`ve just commented out Bootscreen from startup-sequence but it be nice if this could be solved

Thanks a lot for trying it. Well, you just have to open AmiKit:Storage/Monitors and copy it to AmiKit: Devs/Monitors, just like in whatever System, and reboot so you can select it later. It's better not to store much monitors options in the Devs/Monitors as it uses some memory. And 640x512?? Man that's too small. Don't you have an Indi ECS? Christmas is coming...

If Bootscreen doesn't work in your A2000 just make what you've done, just comment it and it will boot faster even. I can't make an special version just for ECS, but if you find a program like BootScreen that works with it I could try, but I've just installed PicBoot from Aminet, and it works on AGA, but with ECS Agnus it was booting without picture and later wrong colors, so better just disable it. If you know any boot picture program that works with ECS tell me. I suposse that if you install AmigaSYS you have the same problem with the boot picture. And wait a little and I'll send you later the latest mod I've done.

BTW are you using FPU? I want to know if it works with it. Paulo Becas is going to try it too.

Edit: If you want a booting picture with ECS you can install BootPicture in Aminet. It works. BUT... you can't choose any other picture but the one it has. It's an easy install, just a file to copy to C and C:BootPicture after setpatch (where my BootScreen is, disabling it). I haven't found any other program.

Edit: Now using OS3.9 BB2 (before I was using OS3.5) and everything keeps running fine. I have to say that Workbench 2000 has some enforcer hits, but I've tried it with CWB39 and it has the same hits, so it must be a problem of the program itself, but nothing that doesn't let it run, and fine I tell you (yes, you won't be running winuaeenforcer using Amikit normally). Since a time ago I can use my Amikit with or without FPU in WinUAE, but I prefer to leave only the programs that run right without it.

Edit: I'm planning to try my latest Amikit with my A1200-BPPC/BVision tomorrow or soon... (yes, it deserves it's own version, it's just to try it).

[cosmicfrog]

yep everything u said

fpu works in winuae still waiting for the files copy over so I can try it on the A2000

[Retrofan]

Curious, very curious. I was going to try my latest version now using OS39 BB2 and updated to Amikit 1.6.3 (well, just a couple of things from it). It works perfect in WinUAE. I install it in my Sandisk 8Gb Cf HD in my Amiga/ACA/Fast ATA and...

Software failure
Press Left mouse button...
Error: 80000 00004 Task: 08016B38

I've tried everything, reinstalling it again, changing PFS3aio to PFS3ds... nothing, and this Sandisk Cf was working with another Amikit version before.

OK. I take another Cf Hd, Trascend 8Gb, make the same copy to it, exactly the same, the same file system... And it BOOTS perfectly. ???

OK, now I take the Sandisk Cf and disable all the part for Scsi update and I keep only SetPatch SKIPROMUPDATES "scsi.device" QUIET... and now it BOOTS without problems.

BUT in the Trascend I have all that part I've disabled here untouched.
What happens?

Edit: This is the s-s:
; $VER: Startup-Sequence_AmiKit OS3.9
; Startup-Sequence for AmigaOS 3.9 + AmiKit (by Jan Zahurancik ©2005-2008)



C:Safe RENRAM OWNOUT MOUNTSIZE=6684 ;Checks for viruses

C:morelibspace
;If EXISTS C:SquirrelSCSI
; C:SquirrelSCSI
;EndIf

;Set SCSIUpdate 1
;If EXISTS C:IDEFix
; C:IDEFix
; Set SCSIUpdate 0
;EndIf
;If EXISTS SYS:Expansion/XSurfIDE
; Set SCSIUpdate 0
;EndIf
;If EXISTS SYS:Prefs/Env-Archive/NOSCSIUPDATE
; Set SCSIUpdate 0
;EndIf

;If $SCSIUpdate EQ 1
; SetPatch QUIET
;Else
SetPatch SKIPROMUPDATES "scsi.device" QUIET
;EndIf
;Unset SCSIUpdate


All that commented is uncommented and working with the Trascend.

[Amiten]

Congratulations Again Retrofans for this amazing Amikit For Real Amiga

how you know I cant wait for a version who can run in my Amiga 060 at the moment all my try to loading in this machine alls fault

I tell you I have installed the first release you made with the 2 partitions apps and multimedia for me this version its the best! work very fine in my Aca 1230/42mhz also reconigsed the Aca and I can put in Turbo mode so I get some little speed translate in a smooth system runing. (dont like the needed of have this 2 partitions apps/mult for runing this version but its ok).

The others version you send me well its good because more quick are runing but never I cant mount the PCMCIA card with no one of this only 1 partition versions. and pcmcia its very important for me. I dont use any more any of thats version.

Tell you my animos to you for continue develop this work and get a final version who can runing in more Real Amiga models with or without FPU and of course Apollo or blizzard 68060 because how I say for me no one version of all you made can runing in my apollo 68060 even copy libs, devs and others mods maybe i need some help to do this job but i think one day you made a brillant copy for all systems.

Best regards
Amiten.

[Retrofan]

Dear Amiten: what happens is very easy. In the first version I gave you to try it it had the PCmcia software installed. All you have to do is install it in this latest. I didn't make it because the program I've got to install it isn't shareware. For what I think CWB doesn't have either the Pcmcia software installed, if I remember correctly. If you liked the other partitions, keep them and just format and install the latest, and later install for example Adapcmcfl from Amigakit: http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/...roducts_id=440

[Amiten]

Thanks retrofan, but what I whiss is a version I can runing in my 060 I try the last 2 news and not goes in 060 how I say I cant wait for a new one who can runs in 060.

between I still using your first one in my 030 very cool.

Best regards
Amiten

[Ratte]

Originally Posted by Retrofan

Perhaps it also depends on your tv? Don't know. Sorry, because it's great.

Edit: Sorry, because I also use the Tv for my PC. In your laptop it should work. Just put Superplus in Devs/Monitors and restart. If it's a setting of WinUAE, I use the configuration of CWB39 without FPU.
With superplus it looks nicer in WinUAE, and I had already a wallpaper with that size where the other was.

what about hd720 (16:9) on the tv?
or xtreme (1280x1024) in 16colors on indy mk2?
(they are both working on winuae)

[Retrofan]

Originally Posted by Amiten

Thanks retrofan, but what I whiss is a version I can runing in my 060 I try the last 2 news and not goes in 060 how I say I cant wait for a new one who can runs in 060.

between I still using your first one in my 030 very cool.

Best regards
Amiten

I told you that if you have a Blizzard 060 and if it doesn't boot (I think it can) you can boot with the floppy of the drivers and it will work, I'm sure. And install the latest version and the pcmcia "drivers". The first versions I made of Amikit didn't work with FPU.

What 060 do you have? If it's an Apollo (edit: yes, now I know it is) I think you'll need something else, I will take a look to know what, but I don't have one to try. Novacoder has to know more exactly, or perhaps he can even try it in his miggy.

And... I've just tried it with my Amiga 1200 with Blizzard PPC and it works like a charm...

Edit: Try a soft reset (A-A-Ctrl), and if not, here are some tips http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?...ghlight=apollo
Also (reading a bit more):

Originally Posted by roy bates

have you got remapollo installed, also apollo's dont like bb2 update because of the scsi update.

Remember this Amikit is OS3.9 BB2, but there are solutions for you in my link above.

Reedit: You can also just install the latest version I sent you using OS3.5, but what I would do is to install remApollo in your system. Edit: Another version, with RemApollo sent just for you, mate.

Edit: Forget about using SFS. People here won't tell you as clearly as I do. It's a nice one, but has nothing to do in terms of speed with PFS3. I noticed it when trying a bootable Floppy to use a CD32 emulation. It only could run (emulating a CD) but using PFS3: http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=...&postcount=122


Oh, sorry Ratte I didn't see your post:

Originally Posted by Ratte

what about hd720 (16:9) on the tv?
or xtreme (1280x1024) in 16colors on indy mk2?
(they are both working on winuae)

That's great. I will try them for sure (I mean in WinUAE, my Indi still doesn't like Xtreme). Really what I have in mind since I've tried an hour ago my version with the BPPC (without the drivers for the BVision) is that I need to search for any other monitor that can work without Indi and that has a large size if there's any. Edit: I've tried both and they can't fit well with my Tv.

Edit: I've tried with the latest BB4, but it was having problems with some Cf brands and also with Scalos, so it's better to stay with BB2, but that's more than the original, that is BB0.

[cosmicfrog]

found a few files that can be deleted I think

__uae____UAEFSDB____ there are 107 of these files and are over 300k
theres another 20 odd files that start with __uae and they use up over 600k

also wondering if your FPU/no fpu problem comes from MathLibsUAE

These libraries are optimized for the 68881/2 and need an FPU.
68881 emulations like in WinUAE will profit, real 68040/60 not.
Special WinUAE versions are included for the best performance.

BTW, the 68881 emulation under WinUAE is also present, while
the CPU/FPU config is set up for an 68040 and will profit too.
This, of course, only happens while applications use IEEE-libs.

but on further investigation I think not

[Retrofan]

Thanks. I will look for them. About FPU, it seems to run without problems with or without it, and it has no MathLibsUAE library, but the readme, that has to be deleted.

Anyway I still will have to make changes if someday it's possible to make an installer for everybody. Today I was thinking to make it without anything remapped, just using 64 colors or so, but I'm not sure how much free ram is necessary to run all the games in WHDload, and it would run slower (I think). I could run Amikit with 128 colors and 1.582.000 mb free. Actually it has around 1.778.000 (1.796.000 with Workbench). With 64 colors around 1.648.000.

How much free chip ram do I need to run WHDload, please?

Edit:

Originally Posted by NovaCoder

I've only got 1.3mb free but it still seems to run all WHDLOAD games just fine.

I was running in 64 colors but I've now put that up to 128 without much of a hit on chipram or icon speed.

Thanks a lot Nova. I've got 1.515.144 free chipram with... 256 colors.... so I think I'm starting a new Amikit version, Full Colour.... If it works like that it will be amazing, and I think I can do it soon.

[cosmicfrog]

found another problem, Ting

CyberBugfiX
copy prefs/env-archive/CyberBugfiX/

env-archive: contains the whole of CyberBugfiX - When only CyberGraphX Env stuff needs to be copyed

I also would like a reboot option on the tools menu, I cant find the one I use on aminet so I`ll include it here

Im also haveing problems installing picasso drivers do you think thats cos of the cybergraphix, now i type it I beging to think so

[Retrofan]

Originally Posted by cosmicfrog

found another problem, Ting

CyberBugfiX
copy prefs/env-archive/CyberBugfiX/

env-archive: contains the whole of CyberBugfiX - When only CyberGraphX Env stuff needs to be copyed

I also would like a reboot option on the tools menu, I cant find the one I use on aminet so I`ll include it here

Im also haveing problems installing picasso drivers do you think thats cos of the cybergraphix, now i type it I beging to think so

Yes, you are true. I forgot CyberBugFix there. No, anything related to picasso must be deleted if still there's any, it needs a graphic card.

You already have a reboot option in Scalos and Magellan with right click on screen. Do you say in Workbench? Now I don't remember if there is, but I won't modify it from the original Amikit (well, really the option there was to shut-down, that I changed to reboot).

Right now I'm doing a Full coloured version, just like Amikit.

Edit: No, there isn't that option in Workbench, but you can just start WB2000 and it has a reboot option there. BTW I've deleted what you say; just in Windows searching for all the files _UAE and deleting them, and also deleted Cybergraphics and corrected the gui of Black Chrome to show the messages of IBrowse. I will send you soon this to try.

I've already tried a 256 colors version just starting with a copy of the Amikit of my Pc and copied over it from my 16c version:
Devs/Monitors (with cyberbugfix inside)
Startup-Sequence with the sentences of a couple of programs Amikit doesn't have disabled (BlazeWCP, Iconbefast and CyReq).
User-Startup
Libs
Classes/Datatypes
Deleted some programs from Utilities and Internet that doesn't work and installed MMCKeyboard from my version (althought all this is just to try)
WBStartup moved some programs to disabled, just like in my version
Copied Boot for bootscreen and bootscreen to prefs
Copied to c: cyberbugfix, FBlit, FText, play16 and bootscreen
Copied Env:Cybergraph for cyberbugfix
Copied Prefs/Presets Amikit800x600.aiff, just to boot with the image

Just with this it boots with the booting screen and the music, and it's like the original. BUT the skins of the windows in Amikit look ugly (is it because they use 16M colors?), and also the wallpapers. I mean that using 256 colors and still having 1.515.000 or around free chip. Really it looks BETTER just using 16 colors. Only the icons look better. Edit: Well, the wallpapers look "just the same" and the skins only look better once remapped to 256 colors.
It's a long time I don't use 256 colors, and I don't know if it can look better. Perhaps there's something I'm missing (I mean without remapping them), I don't know what.

Edit: So I keep with the 16 colors version. Today I've made an "switch" to turn CyberBugFixAga on or off. This is mainly to run Scummvm AGA. I hope Novacoder will like it. Also I've put a command in the Scummvm icon to load a preconfigured AHI, so later the system uses another. Scummvm is working nice today and (by now) I don't see anything with a problem here.

Edit: Yesterday night I sent a copy to try to a couple of mates that already have Amikit. BUT... like always, it seems I can't stop improving it. Today I've changed the images of the skins of Black Chrome again. I had two options: To use them remapped to 16 colors, but then they had some "points" on the image, or to use them remapped to 256 colors, but then the top of the image doesn't look right. Well today I've used the top of a remapped image and the rest with 256 colors, so a image with 256 colors but that looks right with 16. I've also changed it's Gui to have a little better colors on the buttons and so.

[cosmicfrog]

yep I dont use Scalos and Magellan me use cli, wb and dirous4 hehehehe

yep it came to me after a few hours that picasso and cybergaphix don`t like each other

look forward to the next one, might finally get to test it on realhard ware at some point

[Retrofan]

Today I've made another skin, which I've called MetalBrush, with somekind of 3D efect between the bar and the window, although it looks like forged silver really, or not?:



Really I would need to change some of the existing skins or make new ones like this.

And I've made this too, called Golden, but I'm not so sure if you will like it:



I dont know, at least I will change it to have more relief at the bottom of the bar, but it's difficult to make gold with 16 colors...

Edit: Ok, now (I've changed the golden one), active and inactive:





Perhaps I should change the inactive golden one.

Edit: Well, as nobody likes them I will delete them in 3...2...1...

[mfilos]

They look as they have a great deal of dithering which isn't good for my own taste.
I tried my best to make an 8 color MWB Birdie skin based on Rebel's already made skin for 16 colors but every result looked like crap.

Gradient effect would be nice Retrofan mate.

[Retrofan]

Originally Posted by mfilos

They look as they have a great deal of dithering which isn't good for my own taste.
I tried my best to make an 8 color MWB Birdie skin based on Rebel's already made skin for 16 colors but every result looked like crap.

Gradient effect would be nice Retrofan mate.

Thanks a lot Marios for commenting it. Really I searched for that dithering (if I understand the word right). It isn't a plain surface, it has to seem a brushed metal in the first and a real engraved gold in the second. For the second I used a Gold image of Google. Both have gradient of light-shadow to have some perspective, even the MetalBrush has a 3D effect just below the bar, with the contrast of shadow and the size of the crossings, they appear larger. It's true I haven't seen any theme with this kind of dithering (or wrought, that is what I understand), and that's exactly what I try to make with them: a gold and a plate frame with engraving. Ah, and also my photo isn't good enough (just look at the icons, you know they look much better).

What I don't like much is the bar of the golden inactive window, but I've tried several things and I believe it will stay as it is. BTW in that I used in the window a plain surface. Do you preffer it?

Edit: And please, Marios, if I'm not understanding you right, send me a PM so we can explain it better.

Edit: I've made another, "Black&Blue":




All the buttons from the Rebel's one.

Originally Posted by mfilos

I tried my best to make an 8 color MWB Birdie skin based on Rebel's already made skin for 16 colors but every result looked like crap.

Mfilos with 8 colors BlackChrome, MetalBrush and Black&Blue look right. I told you time ago that blue, grey and black are the best colors to search an 8 colors wallpaper, and they are the ones these skins use.
You know I don't like 8 colors, but this is how it is:



With MetalBrush:



The backdrop of the windows is also nice as you can see for 8 colors.


I upload the wallpaper if you like it, in 8 colors. It isn't rar but jpg, just rename it.

Edit:
I've been trying sounds for events, but this is just "for me"; I mean that it's very different from the original Amikit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57TdP...ature=youtu.be

[Retrofan]

I do have somekind of an "Installer" that works for my Beta and Unofficial AmiKit 16c to make it public (thanks Thomas BTW for the advice to delete some things). Now just waiting for a couple of things to release it. Sounds for events are now included, the music while booting changed to one Public Domain, the script to disable CyberBugFix for ScummVm has been improved.

Today I've asked Emmanuel Dausse to use Workbench 2000 with my changes and make it public and he has been very kind and happy to see his program still used.

Edit: Any people interested in a public release is welcome to post

Edit: Ok, I don't want to "update" this thread yet. Thanks a lot for your interest (posts after this). I'm working now in two kind of installers to have more options for an easy install. Working on it.

[JohnFante]

I would be very interested :-)

My plans are ultimately to use it on a A4000D, CSPPC with 060, Mediator with Radeon, SB128 and ethernet etc.

I have a Indivision so I can test both a Indivision version and a RTG.

Great work :-)

[ptyerman]

Interested also.

[johnim]

I'm interested to try it too

[Retrofan]

Just to finish this thread, to comment that it has finally been released, and that this is now the News Thread and this is the Support Thread.

And now this can be closed. Thanks for your help!